Investboy
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Post by Investboy on Jan 7, 2016 14:07:42 GMT
Loan 1491909595
My first default on FC.
What will happen now from your experience?
What is the recovery ratio, speed ect? What was the worst and best recovery? Has there been a complete loss?
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baldpate
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Post by baldpate on Jan 7, 2016 14:30:44 GMT
Take a look at this previous thread on defaults: p2pindependentforum.com/thread/424/first-defaultIt's quite long but there is some interesting stuff in there from experienced FS investors. I expect you will be OK with the Lexus - the valuation might be a bit toppy, but there seems to be enough headroom in the LTV. Being a car it really shouldn't take too long to sell. I've had two cars default, both full recovery : one was an oldish Aston Martin DB7 & took two months, the other a BMW 8-series which took under a month (both recovery times measured from the loan due date, so because of the 14 day 'grace' period you can subtract a couple of weeks if measuring from the default date)
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Post by arbster on Jan 7, 2016 14:55:34 GMT
Very recent update indicates that there were previously unidentified issues with the vehicle that meant it sold for less than the loan amount, however FS has decided to cover the shortfall and return all capital and interest to lenders.
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Post by jonno on Jan 7, 2016 14:56:25 GMT
Wow. Sold and repaid. Well done fundingsecure Thanks for the full return Looking at the following post, you also saved us from a "Long Post" from ilmoro . May the gods be praised
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Jan 7, 2016 14:57:59 GMT
Loan 1491909595 My first default on FC. What will happen now from your experience? What is the recovery ratio, speed ect? What was the worst and best recovery? Has there been a complete loss? Well I was writing a long post but having looked at the site its all irrelevant as loan has been recovered already Car sold for a loss due to unspotted issues but FS have put their hand in their pocket to cover shortfall So looks like your first experience is a quick & positive one Well done fundingsecure, once again
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Post by SteveT on Jan 7, 2016 15:01:00 GMT
Very recent update indicates that there were previously unidentified issues with the vehicle that meant it sold for less than the loan amount, however FS has decided to cover the shortfall and return all capital and interest to lenders. One has to wonder whether the borrower knew of these "unidentified" issues when they pawned the car to FS ...
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Jan 7, 2016 15:10:53 GMT
And see this thread p2pindependentforum.com/post/53406/thread which tracks further defaults Also if you look at the past loans list on FS and toogle the defaulted column to show recoveries & defaults you can see the relevant loans and access any comments In answer to you specific questions FS will try & sell the car whether privately or through auction and interest will continue to accumulate at standard rate until they achieve this. Any recovery will then be distributed though if sold through auction there can be a delay in this and interest may not accumulate from sale to payout. Generally usually about 1-2 months, and as you can all but 6 loans have been recovered (occassionally FS have put their hands in their pocket to cover a shortfall) Longest recovery was proabably about 5 months (excluding those that didnt) the Print, worst recovery is the Lubins 70% (to date), no complete loss though the second lot of Lubins didnt technically recovery anything, FS just paid out 70% rather than wait to sell them as the previous lot had gone so slowly. (As i wrote though might as well post)
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Post by baldpate on Jan 7, 2016 15:11:24 GMT
One has to wonder whether the borrower knew of these "unidentified" issues when they pawned the car to FS ... Surely no borrower would attempt anything so underhand?
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Post by Investboy on Jan 7, 2016 15:22:40 GMT
What a pleasant experience... but dangerous as definitely they can't do it for every default.
I wonder who bought it and how it was so quick.
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Post by jonno on Jan 7, 2016 15:32:48 GMT
What a pleasant experience... but dangerous as definitely they can't do it for every default. I wonder who bought it and how it was so quick. If there were problems with it, probably an auction or a local dealer. I doubt FS would have flogged it to someone's Auntie Doris
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Post by mikes1531 on Jan 7, 2016 15:39:56 GMT
One has to wonder whether the borrower knew of these "unidentified" issues when they pawned the car to FS ... Surely no borrower would attempt anything so underhand? Would fundingsecure have any recourse against the borrower if the borrower was aware of such an issue? Or is it up to FS to check all security with a fine-tooth comb? And if they miss something like this it's their own problem -- or ours? AIUI, if you try to sell a property with 'hidden' defects you know about, you are required to disclose those to prospective buyers. Does the same principle apply here? Or is this totally different because the borrower isn't officially selling the item to the pawnbroker -- or are they? Seems like an area open to abuse.
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Post by ilmoro on Jan 7, 2016 15:41:13 GMT
What a pleasant experience... but dangerous as definitely they can't do it for every default. I wonder who bought it and how it was so quick. If there were problems with it, probably an auction or a local dealer. I doubt FS would have flogged it to someone's Auntie Doris Somebody at FS isnt going to be too impressed with their company car
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