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Post by chris on Mar 10, 2016 21:22:13 GMT
Sometimes a spade needs to be called a spade. That's not to say it's appropriate in this specific instance, I have no idea what the offending posts were and if they were merely disagreements or opinions then they do not deserve to be referred to as drivel. However given the authors of the posts in question ended up receiving lifetime bans from this forum I suspect the description is probably quite justified. I've not found the mods to unduly censor others so they would not have banned the users in question without both severe provocation and ultimately justification.
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Post by adrianc on Mar 10, 2016 22:11:05 GMT
Sometimes a spade needs to be called a spade. That's not to say it's appropriate in this specific instance, I have no idea what the offending posts were and if they were merely disagreements or opinions then they do not deserve to be referred to as drivel. However given the authors of the posts in question ended up receiving lifetime bans from this forum I suspect the description is probably quite justified. I've not found the mods to unduly censor others so they would not have banned the users in question without both severe provocation and ultimately justification. I don't believe any of the posts have been deleted.
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Post by bracknellboy on Mar 10, 2016 22:37:28 GMT
some or at least one were deleted - at the outer edge of offensive / puerile / inappropriate. These were spotted by mods and discussed. Unfortunately some other posts were not reported by anyone and had not been seen by mods (race conditions). A post event tidy up is still in order for these as it is not pleasant to have them on the board. This highlights the importance we place on forum members reporting posts. That does not mean that staff will take action against all reported posts, and therefore don't be offended if we decide to not take action on something you have reported; it is almost certainly a minority of reported posts that action is taken on, as we have to use our judgement. But don't assume that mods have seen / reviewed all posts: in general they have not.
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Post by newlender on Mar 11, 2016 4:01:42 GMT
Certainly, I joined this forum as a complete newcomer to P2P and have appreciated the mostly informative and friendly tone of the debate. Practically all I know has been learned here and I personally have never seen any of the posts described. Perhaps the culprits could be given a fixed-term suspension and allowed back if they agree to moderate their language. I think that some posters quite simply confuse a forum such as this with other social media platforms which are very tolerant of intemperate language and views.
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Post by ribs on Mar 11, 2016 10:05:06 GMT
Perhaps the culprits could be given a fixed-term suspension and allowed back if they agree to moderate their language. To be blunt; if they want to come back to this forum, they will come back to this forum. Email/IP bans will not keep people away if they really want to participate. This is the ever ongoing game of whack-a-mole that exists with these things. This forum is slightly more 'mature' with it's audience, so I don't expect it to ever be a problem, really. If the banned people come back, they are likely to keep a low profile, and not say anything to tie them into the banned profile.
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Post by adrianc on Mar 23, 2016 9:40:30 GMT
I will stick my hand up as recognising that some of my posts may sometimes be perceived as falling into the "puerile drivel" category. I find this forum extremely useful and informative, and there's no way I'd be as heavily (over-?)invested in the P2P segment without it. For that, I owe huge thanks to the community here. And that's exactly what makes this forum SO useful - the community. A dry, purely technical forum would die. Critical mass is, well, critical to getting any kind of a forum going and, just as importantly, keeping it going. A bit of banter around the dry technicalities is what makes people come back and read more. It's the difference between sitting in a financial lecture or going to the pub for a chat with an accountant and a lawyer and a banker and... Yes, it's easy for that line to be crossed, and I've had a gentle nudge or two from the admins for doing it. They do a sterling job, and the balance here is broadly bob-on. Flying pigs, grumpy gorillas, the Governator, and many of the other characters here provide the spark of vitality necessary to fuel that critical mass. When you have a boor who can't take a hint, though, the landlord needs to step in and bar them. Just in case there is any lingering misconception, the sole inspiration for my comment/description was the now-departed, ursine contributor, and if he were here now I would repeat it to the forum equivalent of his face. There was never any intention to malign anyone else, let alone those targeted by his less than acceptable utterances. You are absolutely right, the banter (together with the humour) is an essential element of this forum. Long may it continue.  may wish to read this thread. Last night's moderations (and lack thereof on the part of one poster, apparently) merely confirm my suspicions that our hirsute ursine friend may have returned under a different identity - coincidentally, registered merely a couple of days after the ban.
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Post by ianj on Mar 23, 2016 12:02:09 GMT
Just in case there is any lingering misconception, the sole inspiration for my comment/description was the now-departed, ursine contributor, and if he were here now I would repeat it to the forum equivalent of his face. There was never any intention to malign anyone else, let alone those targeted by his less than acceptable utterances. You are absolutely right, the banter (together with the humour) is an essential element of this forum. Long may it continue. may wish to read this thread. Last night's moderations (and lack thereof on the part of one poster, apparently) merely confirm my suspicions that our hirsute ursine friend may have returned under a different identity - coincidentally, registered merely a couple of days after the ban. As the above appears to make no sense, to me at least, does 'this thread' actually mean here, or was this intended as a link to another thread? Or has 'post pruning' has occurred to render your message unintelligible?
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Post by adrianc on Mar 23, 2016 12:03:33 GMT
As the above appears to make no sense, to me at least, does 'this thread' actually mean here, or was this intended as a link to another thread? Or has 'post pruning' has occurred to render your message unintelligible? It was a nudge to somebody from another thread to read this one. Apologies for the lack of clarity. The other bit (trimmed for clarity) was separate.
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Post by ianj on Mar 23, 2016 12:57:58 GMT
As the above appears to make no sense, to me at least, does 'this thread' actually mean here, or was this intended as a link to another thread? Or has 'post pruning' has occurred to render your message unintelligible? It was a nudge to somebody from another thread to read this one. Apologies for the lack of clarity. The other bit (trimmed for clarity) was separate. Right. After a bit of snooping, I think I may be on the same wavelength as you now. Would abductive reasoning, resulting in the judicious insertion of a 'u', lead to your suspected ursine alter ego? 
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Post by adrianc on Mar 23, 2016 13:01:41 GMT
Would abductive reasoning, resulting in the judicious insertion of a 'u', lead to your suspected ursine alter ego? You may very well think that, I couldn't possibly comment.
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Post by ianj on Mar 23, 2016 13:24:16 GMT
Would abductive reasoning, resulting in the judicious insertion of a 'u', lead to your suspected ursine alter ego? You may very well think that, I couldn't possibly comment. may have just revealed your own true persona! It could well be Francis Urquhart lurking behind that obvious false beard.  But enough of this frivolity. Time now for something serious, like a vote in Essex. 
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Post by brin on Mar 23, 2016 14:12:00 GMT
This is most amusing to follow, unfortunately, Sherlock and DR watson you two are most definitely not.  .... ..... The judicious insertion of the "U" may well lead you to a fictitious member of the ursidae family, unfortunately you are wrong.  |
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Post by ianj on Mar 23, 2016 18:07:40 GMT
This is most amusing to follow, unfortunately, Sherlock and DR watson you two are most definitely not. .... ..... The judicious insertion of the "U" may well lead you to a fictitious member of the ursidae family, unfortunately you are wrong. Most of us are glad to bring a smile to somebody's face, but I would have thought 'fortunately' would have been a more appropriate adverb. You are free of any stigma, and the risk to frequenters of this space from the future effects of 'fermented berries' will have been reduced. A win-win scenario to my mind. 
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Post by adrianc on Mar 23, 2016 18:27:57 GMT
This is most amusing to follow, unfortunately, Sherlock and DR watson you two are most definitely not. .... ..... In the immortal words of Mandy Rice-Davies, "He would say that, wouldn't he?"
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Post by brin on Mar 23, 2016 18:31:21 GMT
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