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Post by bracknellboy on Apr 3, 2016 17:12:41 GMT
From what I recall from the discussion last time around, its 'number of posts' dependent. But I might have that wrong.
EDIT: its a 'number of page views' number.
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Post by ribs on Apr 3, 2016 18:44:44 GMT
From what I recall from the discussion last time around, its 'number of posts' dependent. But I might have that wrong. EDIT: its a 'number of page views' number. This is correct. 50,000 page views are now ad-free. Let's see if people like it, or if anyone even notices. I don't get to see a counter or anything as to how much is left. I guess the admins of the board will be able to estimate better than I.
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Post by registerme on Apr 3, 2016 18:46:08 GMT
I noticed, and thank you . Also my Chrome is no longer crashing, so it probably was one of the adverts.
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Post by bracknellboy on Apr 3, 2016 18:54:11 GMT
From what I recall from the discussion last time around, its 'number of posts' dependent. But I might have that wrong. EDIT: its a 'number of page views' number. This is correct. 50,000 page views are now ad-free. Let's see if people like it, or if anyone even notices. I don't get to see a counter or anything as to how much is left. I guess the admins of the board will be able to estimate better than I. Looking back at a thread in the v. early days (when our initial 2 weeks ad-free was up !) the view then was that we were looking @ an estimated 150k page views per month. If that was based on then current activity it will be many times that now. We are about to find out :-) And apologies, I've used up a small handful in finding that out and posting.
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Post by mrclondon on Apr 3, 2016 20:50:13 GMT
We're currently running at about 1,500,000 page views per month, or an average of 50,000 page views per day (varies between 40k and 60k per day) with the trend on an ever upwards trajectory.
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Post by ribs on Apr 3, 2016 21:03:06 GMT
We're currently running at about 1,500,000 page views per month, or an average of 50,000 page views per day (varies between 40k and 60k per day) with the trend on an ever upwards trajectory.
Looks like the ads are back tomorrow then! Enjoy it whilst it lasts!
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Post by adrianc on Apr 4, 2016 7:09:58 GMT
Ooh, the "Please unblock ads to support this forum" message has gone.
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Post by ribs on Apr 4, 2016 16:13:47 GMT
We're currently running at about 1,500,000 page views per month, or an average of 50,000 page views per day (varies between 40k and 60k per day) with the trend on an ever upwards trajectory.
Looks like the ads are back tomorrow then! Enjoy it whilst it lasts! So, a follow up to this. It looks like the ads are still removed from the forum. BUT, they are not removed for guests. They only disappear once you are logged in. This is an interesting twist that I wasn't expecting, and may make the ad-free experience last for longer than initially thought if views are only counted against logged in users. So we have any statistics for page views of logged in vs guest users?
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Post by mrclondon on Apr 4, 2016 16:27:16 GMT
Looks like the ads are back tomorrow then! Enjoy it whilst it lasts! So, a follow up to this. It looks like the ads are still removed from the forum. BUT, they are not removed for guests. They only disappear once you are logged in. This is an interesting twist that I wasn't expecting, and may make the ad-free experience last for longer than initially thought if views are only counted against logged in users. So we have any statistics for page views of logged in vs guest users? What a fascinating observation.
Whilst we have no direct stats for page view splits, we can get an order of magnitude approximation. The forum is showing in the last 24 hours 322 logged in staff + members and 1653 guests (distinct IP) so logged in members was just 16% of the total. Probably fair to assume logged in members have more page views than guests, but probably account for less than 40% of the total.
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Post by treeman on Apr 4, 2016 17:18:14 GMT
Ooh, the "Please unblock ads to support this forum" message has gone. Never even seen this message !
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Post by mikeb on Apr 7, 2016 16:33:45 GMT
That must mean your ad-blocker is blocking the "unblock your ad-blocker" block.
Like mine (I've never seen it either, although, I do see a "Forbidden: You don't have permission to access /ad.pl on this server" in a few places ... due to /etc/hosts redirection)
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Apr 7, 2016 20:09:16 GMT
I use ublock origin (with ff) and toggling 'cosmetic filtering' for this site makes the 'please unblock ads' nag go away (still get some blank space there though). Oh for the days of ASCII emails and plain text / html websites. Skynet can only be a couple of Java release away now. 8>.
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Post by ribs on Apr 8, 2016 10:53:06 GMT
So, for what it's worth, it cost me $8/£5.75 on my credit card to make this forum ad-free for about 2 and a bit days. That was 50,000 impressions.
So, to make it ad-free damn near most of the time for logged in users, this forum would fall into the 750,000 - 1,000,000 page views category. This would cost $120.00 per month, roughly £90ish per month. That's actually not too bad. Or it would be $70/month if a recurring payment is made.
I get why people run ad blockers... I do as well, but my blocking list is sparse; I only block the little pop-up things at the bottom of youtube videos (because they are super annoying; I've watched the advert, don't interrupt me AGAIN, I don't block the actual ads), and all things social networking. I personally like to support sites by not blocking the ads themselves.
I just wish the ad industry wasn't so damn sleezy, because then I would maybe have an excuse to get angry at people who block ads in this fashion. It's a sucky situation either way. We block to stop utterly terrible ads from crashing our browsers, or the "your java is out of date" style adverts that were pushing malware recently, or the really distracting stuff that is just awful. And of course there is the problem of tracking cookies etc.
Running servers isn't free, and very often isn't even cheap. By blocking ads, we are genuinely removing income from people who pay for servers and bandwidth. Is it stealing? Maybe. Either way, this feels wrong to me.
We need a third way. But I don't know what that is yet.
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Post by pom on Apr 9, 2016 7:49:04 GMT
I haven't seen so many shockwave crashes this week....tho also have not been on the site so often due to some nice little (work) crises. Something related to this forum (whether it be pro boards the ads etc) is definitely doing some mighty weird to my system tho...and hogging a large amount of my internet connection...poor hubby was trying to watch something on iplayer last night and it kept buffering....and then I realised it was buffering each time I opened a new window on this forum....and once I closed them down again it improved....and I seemed to have a huge amount of network traffic not actually doing anything. So either some of these ads have a lot more hidden under the surface or there's something else going on.
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Apr 9, 2016 11:59:03 GMT
pom, if it happens again, try looking at the network traffic to see if you can find a culprit .. in firefox it's tools, web developer, network, and you can see what pages are getting loaded and reloaded from where. It is too easy (and increasingly common) for javascript items to reload themselves (or close relatives) forever (if you go to the savingstream 'available loans' page you can watch it happening .. they have a good reason, but a lot of pages don't). There are similar facilities in IE, and probably Chrome. Otherwise I recommend a good ad blocker. Any site which feels free to send me stuff from some other unmonitored, unrequested, and possible dodgy, site(s) all over the globe, is just asking for me to slam the firewall in its face.
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