stub8535
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Post by stub8535 on Mar 30, 2016 21:09:03 GMT
Has anyone noticed that loan parts remain listed for sale even though already sold.? Usually the highest available rate too. This may stop an investor buying or seller listing. Who could that benefit? First noticed it last night on D and E loans. Anyone else noticed?
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kt
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Post by kt on Mar 31, 2016 7:52:14 GMT
That sounds like another case of Fudging Coders breaking the site again.
I don't currently have anything on the SM but I have seen this behaviour before.
KT
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Mar 31, 2016 10:00:15 GMT
Yes, it is a well know feature which comes and goes. Sometimes (historically at least) you could even get lucky and sell the same loan part several times. Flippin' COBOL don't seem to have grasped the concept of an atomic* transaction, where nothing happens until it all happens (i.e. indivisible), so there are several places where "what actually happened" can disagree with itself.
* Hmm, obsolete terminology since we can now split atoms, and even chop up protons. Perhaps Fundamental Cosmology are actually ahead of their time, and well into what Terry Pratchett called 'Quantum'? 8>.
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Post by sl75 on Mar 31, 2016 10:12:04 GMT
* Hmm, obsolete terminology since we can now split atoms, and even chop up protons. Perhaps Fundamental Cosmology are actually ahead of their time, and well into what Terry Pratchett called 'Quantum'? 8>. If you split atomic transactions, your database system crashes, and if you split a chemical atom, your chemistry system crashes... Edit: If anything the obsolete terminology is the chemical name "atom", whose greek root word implies it to be the smallest indivisible unit of matter!
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Mar 31, 2016 10:15:45 GMT
* Hmm, obsolete terminology since we can now split atoms, and even chop up protons. Perhaps Fundamental Cosmology are actually ahead of their time, and well into what Terry Pratchett called 'Quantum'? 8>. If you split atomic transactions, your database system crashes, and if you split a chemical atom, your chemistry system crashes... True, but it's ever so much more exiting that way... (I vaguely recall an early science fiction story where someone split a photon and the universe crashed. 8>.)
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kt
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Post by kt on Mar 31, 2016 10:17:17 GMT
Yes, it is a well know feature which comes and goes. Sometimes (historically at least) you could even get lucky and sell the same loan part several times. If only you got to keep it. Some time later, when they manage to update their systems, they will either take the money back. I'm not convinced they hire the best of people at Futile Crowd. KT
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andyp
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Post by andyp on Mar 31, 2016 11:53:29 GMT
Flaky Computing It's really frustrating you see tempting loan parts on the listing, go to buy them and they aren't there, refresh the listing see tempting loan part... rinse and repeat
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Post by blender on Mar 31, 2016 12:03:22 GMT
Nothing wrong with atom in its old sense of something being indivisible, from the Greek atomos. It was attached to the chemical elements in C18th because they were thought indivisible, fundamental. Too late to re-name, and if it were applied to unconfined quarks, then in 100 years they would probably find component parts of quarks.
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Post by am on Apr 1, 2016 11:25:19 GMT
If you split atomic transactions, your database system crashes, and if you split a chemical atom, your chemistry system crashes... True, but it's ever so much more exiting that way... (I vaguely recall an early science fiction story where someone split a photon and the universe crashed. 8>.) But splitting photons is a common natural process - it's called pair production.
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Post by am on Apr 1, 2016 11:30:09 GMT
Nothing wrong with atom in its old sense of something being indivisible, from the Greek atomos. It was attached to the chemical elements in C18th because they were thought indivisible, fundamental. Too late to re-name, and if it were applied to unconfined quarks, then in 100 years they would probably find component parts of quarks. "Other names which have been used for these proposed fundamental particles (or particles intermediate between the most fundamental particles and those observed in the Standard Model) include prequarks, subquarks, maons,[4] alphons, quinks, rishons, tweedles, helons, haplons, Y-particles,[5] and primons.[6] Preon is the leading name in the physics community." (Wikipedia) The linguistic principle that applies is that while etymology may be a guide to meaning, etymology does not constrain meaning and is not a wholly reliable guide.
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Apr 1, 2016 14:34:17 GMT
True, but it's ever so much more exiting that way... (I vaguely recall an early science fiction story where someone split a photon and the universe crashed. 8>.) But splitting photons is a common natural process - it's called pair production. Well I did say it was science fiction ('Golden Age' ScF at that) .. scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/44858/scientist-sets-up-experiment-without-pre-determining-the-outcome. Actually IIRC he didn't so much split the photon as confuse it into slowing down and thus vanishing .. and Charles Harness was not exactly a bleeding edge physicist anyway. 8>.
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Post by am on Apr 1, 2016 16:01:30 GMT
Ooh! A cliche! An Adam and Eve story! Apart from pair production (e.g. y -> e+e-) there are also things called beam splitters, and you can reduce the intensity so that there's only one photon in the system at a time, and it still goes both ways.
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Post by min on Apr 1, 2016 17:24:36 GMT
Ooh! A cliche! An Adam and Eve story! Apart from pair production (e.g. y -> e+e-) there are also things called beam splitters, and you can reduce the intensity so that there's only one photon in the system at a time, and it still goes both ways. I'm getting a headache ?
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