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Post by cautious on Mar 26, 2014 11:19:33 GMT
I was curious about members worst financial decision / result in the hope that we might all become a bit smarter.
Mine (though it turned out OK in the end ) was having 30k saved with Icesave.
As you all know it was lost in 2008 until that nice Mr Darling rode up on his white charger and let me sleep soundly at night again.
The moral of this one I suppose is don't always chase the highest return, and don't always believe in government guarantees.
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Post by oldnick on Mar 26, 2014 11:45:23 GMT
1. Not taking up a career in the City. 2. Following conventional wisdom and putting money into Equitable Life. (Got most of it out before the grisly end - the only good advice my then financial adviser gave me.) 3. Missing out on the gold price hike. 4. Ditto the above with every other boom. But I'm not complaining
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Post by bracknellboy on Mar 26, 2014 11:58:12 GMT
I was curious about members worst financial decision / result in the hope that we might all become a bit smarter.
Mine (though it turned out OK in the end ) was having 30k saved with Icesave. Probably not my worst financial decision, but how about having considerably more than that with Icesave, getting concerned and gradually moving a lot of it out (not a bad decision), but putting a decent chunk of that into Kaupthing Edge (and Northern Rock, and B&B). Oh, and having suggested to my then girlfriend that she put her accumulated ISAs into Icesave's newly launched ISA, representing her entire savings. Key takeaway: don't listen to a word I say on this board.
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Post by oldnick on Mar 26, 2014 12:06:22 GMT
I was curious about members worst financial decision / result in the hope that we might all become a bit smarter.
Mine (though it turned out OK in the end ) was having 30k saved with Icesave. Probably not my worst financial decision, but how about having considerably more than that with Icesave, getting concerned and gradually moving a lot of it out (not a bad decision), but putting a decent chunk of that into Kaupthing Edge (and Northern Rock, and B&B). Oh, and having suggested to my then girlfriend that she put her accumulated ISAs into Icesave's newly launched ISA, representing her entire savings. Key takeaway: don't listen to a word I say on this board. Wha? Sorry, wasn't listening...
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Post by oldgrumpy on Mar 26, 2014 12:35:51 GMT
Possibly investing my whole ISA (and a bit more) back about 14 years ago in Invesco European Growth, just before that Mr Po*e "managed" to lose far more of it than any other fund when the bubble burst.
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Post by batchoy on Mar 26, 2014 14:04:27 GMT
Buying a share in overvalued joint equity property with an endowment mortgage just at the peak of the market in 1990.
Though thanks to a error by the local authority, and the threat of a class action against them it all turned out in my favour.
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Post by oldnick on Mar 26, 2014 15:42:40 GMT
Buying a share in overvalued joint equity property with an endowment mortgage just at the peak of the market in 1990. Though thanks to a error by the local authority, and the threat of a class action against them it all turned out in my favour. How did you manage to blame it on them?
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Post by batchoy on Mar 26, 2014 16:45:55 GMT
Buying a share in overvalued joint equity property with an endowment mortgage just at the peak of the market in 1990. Though thanks to a error by the local authority, and the threat of a class action against them it all turned out in my favour. How did you manage to blame it on them? The properties were developed and sold by the local authority as joint equity at £32,000 for a 50% share which valued them at £64,000 about £10,000 above the freehold value of equivalent properties so we were effectively in negative equity even before the market crashed. When purchased there was a peppercorn ground rent (described as such in the lease) on the half that was not owned, however over a period of about 6 years this peppercorn rent rose to such a point that it was the same as residents were paying for their mortgages. During this period the LA had always claimed that the properties were outside the normal social housing stock however we discovered they were treating them as social housing stock when calculating the ground rent increases hence the phenomenal increases. Armed with this information the newly form residents' association put an ultimatum to the LA either include the properties in the social housing stock and give us the right to buy discounts, recalculate the rent increases using a separate process that kept the rent as a peppercorn rent and rebate the over charging or face a class action. The LA capitulated by doing not what we had demanded but by setting up a separate scheme which allowed us to purchase the remaining 50% at market price (a right we always had) but with a discount equivalent to the right to buy discounts in operation at the time. Given the depressed house prices, and the discount most of us bought the freehold at a price which meant that we went overnight from having negative equity to positive equity in the properties and our monthly outgoings dropped because resulting mortgage payments were less than the previous mortgage payments plus the ground rent.
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Post by oldnick on Mar 26, 2014 16:58:05 GMT
So the authority didn't lose real money on the deal - it was an over ambitious paper valuation that was revised down under pressure?
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Post by bracknellboy on Mar 26, 2014 18:26:05 GMT
How did you manage to blame it on them? ....Given the depressed house prices, and the discount most of us bought the freehold at a price which meant that we went overnight from having negative equity to positive equity in the properties and our monthly outgoings dropped because resulting mortgage payments were less than the previous mortgage payments plus the ground rent. and the key takeaway from that is that we SHOULD listen to anything batchoy says.
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Post by batchoy on Mar 26, 2014 19:02:26 GMT
So the authority didn't lose real money on the deal - it was an over ambitious paper valuation that was revised down under pressure? Its difficult to know as it was a strange set-up, the estate was built by a local housing developer on behalf of the LA. The LA made offers to people on the housing list (I had registered as soon as the plans for the development were announced), if they accepted they were then passed to the developer (which is where it all went wrong the first time around as many of the people did not have the income to afford a mortgage, they then screened for income and I was part of the second attempt) and the purchase of the lease was from the developer, once the estate was complete the freehold was then passed to the LA but I have no idea what the LA paid. When the discount scheme was implemented market prices were still below the purchase price and we got a significant discount on the market price. Personally bracknellboy I wouldn't listen to anything I say, if it hadn't been for the willingness of all the residents work together and our councilor being willing to listen and help argue our case I would be in a very different situation.
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Post by bracknellboy on Mar 26, 2014 21:03:12 GMT
My worst ever financial decision ? Not buying the winning ticket on the other weeks Euro Millions. (or whatever it is called)
A more serious worst financial decision: taking out an endowment when buying my first place. Add to that, I went through a friend who worked for a major company. That person couldn't sell directly so it was routed through an IFA. They weren't meant to have done this (I guess they weren't meant to give me "advice"). I got half the comissions back up front (good). But when the s**t hit the fan on endowments, I felt I couldn't open up the pandora's box in case it had some fallout on my friend (even though she was no longer there). So I never benefited from the compensation when I almost certainly could have. To make matters worse, I realised/discoverd a few years ago that it was a non-qualifying policy, which I'm told is pretty unusual for an endowment to cover a mortgage. So any gains are income tax chargeable at a wonderful tax rate. It is still running: a few, but not many years to run. I've almost cashed it in a few times: also got 3/4 of the way to at least stopping payments into it, but somehow paper work never seemed to quite get sorted. Would have been better had I cashed it in. Plus of course releasing me from stupid b****Y fees. But somehow its never quite happened.
And to think that every pore of my body was telling me 'repayment mortgage'.
Still, at least that mortgage was paid off a long time ago. Just as well, as the endowment is going to struggle to hit 35-40% of the value that it was meant to give.
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Post by bracknellboy on Mar 26, 2014 21:07:08 GMT
Oh, also bad decision: not replying to at least 1 of the 6.3 x 104 vmails/texts inviting me to make a claim for PPI. I don't recall ever taking out PPI, but that doesn't seem to bother the financial authorities in landing ever more costs on the institutions which in turn is probably dragging down the value of my future pension pot by hitting their share values.....so why haven't I tried to get some form of compensation to offset that loss ?
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Post by JamesFrance on Mar 29, 2014 16:45:29 GMT
My worst mistake was to buy pep funds from Legg Mason, one was called Hy1 and invested in the first or maybe second highest yielding share in the FTSE 30, as a single company pep, a theory of Jim Slater which ended up worthless when it chose Marconi. The other was managed by his son Mark Slater and had lost 2 thirds of it's value after 6 years. It was called the Slater Growth Trust.
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Post by mikes1531 on Mar 30, 2014 3:30:18 GMT
It's probably not my worst decision, but I do remember deciding not to invest in the Google IPO because I thought it was overpriced at $85/share and besides, how was a free search company going to turn that into a revenue source? (Shares are now selling for more than $1100 each.)
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