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Post by chris on Mar 30, 2014 10:47:26 GMT
The stats suggest that the majority of bidding is shifting toward the aftermarket. We don't know if that's a long term trend, although we have several ideas, but it's at least a trend that we need to cater for now.
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Post by j on Mar 30, 2014 10:52:50 GMT
The stats suggest that the majority of bidding is shifting toward the aftermarket. We don't know if that's a long term trend, although we have several ideas, but it's at least a trend that we need to cater for now. I agree on the last part re:current trend. But, I think, and that's only my opinion, is that it's due to the plethora of very large loans we've been having recently. I bid on the first few but, with elongated draw downs, realised it's better to wait & buy on AM. IF new promised proposals of some sort of bonus to new & loyal members are linked to pre-bidding or live bidding before auction close, AC might find yet another new shift in pattern. In terms of smaller loans, If I like it I always bid well before close to reserve my units rather than wait on AM All ifs & buts at the mo, I can understand, and I don't envy your position in trying to keep us all happy
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Post by chris on Mar 30, 2014 10:56:02 GMT
Yeah it's not an easy one. The trends across the site will change, some through our manipulation of the offering and some due to wider changes in the marketplace. For now at least I think the aftermarket will continue to be busier than the primary market so it has to figure in auto-invest.
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Post by spockie on Mar 30, 2014 11:02:50 GMT
I very much follow the same pattern of bidding that j has just outlined. It starts to feel as if you will need to use autoinvest to get anything on the AM. Having joined Assetz in December, I have successfully diversified into about 35 loans very quickly due to the AM. I wonder whether new investors will find it as easy as I did with autoinvest? I saw an opportunity, brought some money in with gocardless, and bought. New investors will presumably have to have the money sitting there just in case something comes up if the system is automated. Indeed, we all will.
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Post by Ton ⓉⓞⓃ on Mar 30, 2014 11:38:06 GMT
I very much follow the same pattern of bidding that j has just outlined. It starts to feel as if you will need to use autoinvest to get anything on the AM. Having joined Assetz in December, I have successfully diversified into about 35 loans very quickly due to the AM. I wonder whether new investors will find it as easy as I did with autoinvest? I saw an opportunity, brought some money in with gocardless, and bought. New investors will presumably have to have the money sitting there just in case something comes up if the system is automated. Indeed, we all will. That's an interesting point will we be able to buy on tick. On thinking about it I guess not, I was thinking to myself that's what's happening on the ShadowMarket. IN EDIT. By Tick I mean buy now pay late, on credit.
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Post by chris on Mar 30, 2014 13:47:29 GMT
It's going to be down to how others decide to use the platform. If there's a large number of loan parts going in a given loan then you can transfer in money at will. If you want loan units in a specific loan, or set of loans, and they're only infrequently available then if others are also competing for them using auto-invest and having funds sat there will give you an advantage. But how you approach investing is entirely up to you.
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Post by agent69 on Mar 30, 2014 14:17:29 GMT
Been away on me hols for the last week and this thread appears to have passed me by.
Whats the point of auto invest (have I missed something?). Looks like it's just for lazy people who can't be bothered to log in regularly to see what's on offer?
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Post by Ton ⓉⓞⓃ on Mar 30, 2014 14:21:00 GMT
Been away on me hols for the last week and this thread appears to have passed me by. Whats the point of auto invest (have I missed something?). Looks like it's just for lazy people who can't be bothered to log in regularly to see what's on offer? You missed all the fun, have you looked at the videos of the Lenders day, that might be your second call after you read E T.
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Post by Ton ⓉⓞⓃ on Mar 30, 2014 19:51:55 GMT
Well, FYI, I shall attempt to use the autobid tool to buy on the AM everything and anything unless buying it would exceed my maximum exposure to any one loan. If the tool is clever enough, I'll ask it to buy upto a limit per any one borrower. My limits would be set as an absolute value (e.g. £200) rather than a percentage of a loan (which makes no sense to me as a lender) or as a percentage of my total investment in AC (which make slightly more sense but would unfortunately keep increasing as I put more money in AC which I wouldn't find desirable) It would certainly save me huge amounts of time. A big plus for AC is that you can see what's in the AM without logging in which compensates slightly for the awkward login mechanism but with the autobid tool perhaps I won't have to. And let's be direct here, AC being made aware of pent up demand should help them gather useful information about their lenders. (Which I'm quite happy with btw) Am I right in thinking that the Autobid tool comes in May? Does that mean you are a beta user? Can you set it to buy lower than £100? I'm cautious and would like to start small in case it/I get it wrong. I know it can be sold anyway...
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Post by chris on Mar 30, 2014 20:36:51 GMT
Phase 1 of auto-invest will launch tomorrow afternoon, subject to one final test tomorrow morning to make sure we're all comfortable with it. It is a very complicated system that runs asynchronously and in parallel which can lead to some quite complex performance characteristics. It's actions in the primary markets are pretty straight forward but there's some complexity which needs careful monitoring and fine tuning in the aftermarket.
If I'm not 100% happy then I may delay by 24 hours to extend the amount of testing we do, or release the system for the primary markets but with the aftermarket code disabled. I'll post a full update tomorrow afternoon with our final plans. Phase 2 of auto-invest is targeted at early May for public release. This is the part that allows for investment strategies where you can tell the system to automatically lend against your criteria.
This second phase of the system is actually relatively simple programatically, as a platform, but has a large amount of detail work that needs testing. It also allows for some seriously complicated interplay between different subsystems and rules. So again the release date is currently just a guide and it's a case of it being released when it's ready. It's likely we'll set up a closed beta followed by a public beta before the full release. We'll take a view in late April when the underlying code is complete.
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Post by Ton ⓉⓞⓃ on Mar 30, 2014 20:52:50 GMT
Phase 1 of auto- invest will launch tomorrow afternoon, subject to one final test tomorrow morning to make sure we're all comfortable with it. It is a very complicated system that runs asynchronously and in parallel which can lead to some quite complex performance characteristics. It's actions in the primary markets are pretty straight forward but there's some complexity which needs careful monitoring and fine tuning in the aftermarket. If I'm not 100% happy then I may delay by 24 hours to extend the amount of testing we do, or release the system for the primary markets but with the aftermarket code disabled. I'll post a full update tomorrow afternoon with our final plans. Phase 2 of auto-invest is targeted at early May for public release. This is the part that allows for investment strategies where you can tell the system to automatically lend against your criteria. This second phase of the system is actually relatively simple programatically, as a platform, but has a large amount of detail work that needs testing. It also allows for some seriously complicated interplay between different subsystems and rules. So again the release date is currently just a guide and it's a case of it being released when it's ready. It's likely we'll set up a closed beta followed by a public beta before the full release. We'll take a view in late April when the underlying code is complete. So this is why it's called AI.
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Post by chris on Mar 31, 2014 11:33:36 GMT
Okay I'm formally pushing the launch back to tomorrow. There have been some other unrelated issues on the site today (administrative stuff) that have been taking up all our time this morning. There are also some changes we need to make ready for the FCA's new regime from tomorrow.
The good news is that the core system has passed its first tests today, working as expected. There's a couple of UI changes we want to make to improve usability but it definitely feels like it's getting there. We should be ready to launch early afternoon tomorrow.
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Post by mikes1531 on Apr 1, 2014 11:06:46 GMT
The good news is that the core system has passed its first tests today, working as expected. There's a couple of UI changes we want to make to improve usability but it definitely feels like it's getting there. We should be ready to launch early afternoon tomorrow. chrischris: Has the system launched already? I just put up for sale a few parts of a couple of AC's early LtL loans. They usually take a while before someone wants to purchase them, presumably because of their relatively low -- 6.5% -- interest rate. Today, however, they were sold by the time I refreshed my dashboard page! It was as if the new system was already live and someone had set their profile to snap up instantly any loan parts that were offered for sale. I've looked at my account to see if there were any new controls for me to set to specify the loan parts I might be interested in buying but found nothing. Was I looking in the right place?
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Post by chris on Apr 1, 2014 11:07:42 GMT
Not yet. Still doing final tests. This is the biggest change to the site under the hood since the launch, so we're being a little bit cautious.
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Post by oldgrumpy on Apr 1, 2014 11:14:04 GMT
It's after midday now so if anything goes wrong you can't be renamed Agnes Prilfool.
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