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Post by aju on May 27, 2016 14:48:09 GMT
Just got an email suggesting
'the markets have changed, giving us the opportunity to reassess our products and make sure we're giving the best service possible to our lenders and our borrowers.'
trouble is if your in classic the rates will be down 20 points so not best for lenders but Plus has gone up 20 points so that may be better for Plus. There is a slight delay on the classic giving users chance to move money out!.
Classic's rate will be reduced from 4.5% to 4.3%, taking effect on 7th June
Plus will be increased from 6.5% to 6.7% as of today, Friday, May 27th.
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Post by happy on May 27, 2016 19:37:20 GMT
I have always used Zopa for diversification since I started in P2P and I stayed with the Classic product when the new products came out as I did not want any exposure to unsecured loans where I can't choose the borrowers. However, with the reduction of Classic from 5% to 4.3% for SafeGuarded but none the less still unsecured loans I am thinking that perhaps a better place for my money might be somewhere like Landbay with asset backed loans but still offering similar rates. I would love to hear Zopa's explanation as to why they feel they can reduce rates of their SafeGuard product by 14% in the space of a few months with almost no reason. So where is the 0.7% going? Are rates to borrowers plummeting by a similar amount, have they changed the risk-profile of Classic SafeGuard loans resulting in significantly lower risk / lower return product, are they using it to pump more money into the SafeGuard fund in case of an economic down-turn or is it all going to Zopa themselves to try and get the company profitable at last. I actually think all of the above reasons could be seen as perfectly acceptable to many investors but the weak, almost non reason given in their email was, I'm afraid, not acceptable for me. Without some proper explanation from Zopa that I feel comfortable with I feel that I will have to forgo my platform diversification and take the "Long Road out of Zopa"
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Post by oldgrumpy on May 27, 2016 22:00:34 GMT
It's still higher than the 3.8% I was actually getting in 2014 (or was it 2013?) while "projections" told me it should have been nearer 4.8%. I'm almost out now, and have been averaging around 6.2% on RS ever since (with rarely more than about four days delay in lending).
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Post by westonkevRS on May 27, 2016 22:05:15 GMT
Data from altfi.com loan book would indictate that Zopa need consumer peer cash less and less....
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Post by happy on May 28, 2016 7:24:48 GMT
Data from altfi.com loan book would indictate that Zopa need consumer peer cash less and less.... So Zopa is more a B2B (Bank to Business) Lending Platform than P2P now....pretty soon they'll just be calling themselves a bank and offering around 2% for 5 years..... FWIW over last year I am set to achieve over 6% on RS with a mixed 5y/3y and Rolling portfolio that allows me all the flexibility i need so I'm more than happy with RS.
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Post by aju on May 28, 2016 9:31:42 GMT
I'm already loaded as far as I can with the banks best rate current accounts the savings account are way lower than zopa I'm still satisfied with zopa at the moment.
I currently have a 1000 (the minimum) in Plus and a very high 4 figure amount in Classic where I moved my funds from to fund plus (took about 8 weeks). The reduction in classic ( approx 18 before tax for me) is not ideal but as a tax payer and well over the new allowances I'm waiting for zopa and their ISA to move my isa's which have seriously lower rates than zopa but still at the higher end of the general ISA market.
Whilst I'd like to have a look at other P2P I am currently happy with zopa at the moment. Its true over the last year or two zopa rates have edged lower and lower but for my needs and circumstances I'm not as comfortable with losses like I was before I retired. I have looked at others but was not convinced for my circumstances that I understood the loss as much as I do for zopa (Historical evidence in my book). Despite having over 50 loans in peril or even default I have made a good return that until recently was better than the best returns in the current account spreads I have. My OH has similar amounts to me but does not pay tax so is fairing a lot better and is yet to dip into Plus.
I know others are more adventurous but me Zopa is still the leader.
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