cooling_dude
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Post by cooling_dude on Jun 1, 2016 18:30:55 GMT
But the latest update on site (contradicting their general update email) says "5 days ago - We are looking at offering development finance on this, currently going through due diligence." So. is it a PBL or a DFL, or some kind of hybrid ? Indeed. Puzzling. And if it isn't a DFL - yet - why a second tranche? From the overview of the new tranche...
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mikes1531
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Post by mikes1531 on Jun 1, 2016 19:24:56 GMT
Indeed. Puzzling. And if it isn't a DFL - yet - why a second tranche? From the overview of the new tranche...
This all makes reasonable sense, except it seems to be changing the basis on which the current investors invested. In other situations where further advances have been required -- my experience is mostly via FS -- either... - It's made clear at the outset that further advances will be made as the security value increases due to work in progress completing; or
- The further advance is treated as an additional loan.
In the former case, all lenders have equal priority in the event of a default. In the latter, the additional loan is ranked behind the initial loan so that investors in the first loan don't lose the priority they had when they invested. (A third possibility would be to ask investors if they are happy with the increased loan, and not make it if they aren't.) I suppose the only mitigating factor here is that if any of the initial investors don't like what's happening they can exit the loan via the SM. Which might be fine as long as the SM is liquid -- which it is at the moment -- but it still does look like SS are changing the rules while the game is being played, and forcing anyone who doesn't like the new rules to leave the game. I suspect SS are on shaky ground here, and sure hope they are taking legal advice before doing such things, as it would do them no good at all to create unnecessary conflicts with their investors. And if any of those conflicts were to boil over they could affect the whole platform -- which, I suppose, is why I'm concerned about such behaviour.
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Post by harvey on Jun 2, 2016 1:38:03 GMT
Well I'm already in this one but I think I will be in it for a little bit more because I'm wanting to do a bit more paying down of other things. At least there is a steady flow of new loans being launched over the last couple of weeks except they have nearly all been very small ones. The flat in a posh part of London and the land in Hastings looks slightly bigger although again they are still only middle range loans where I don't expect we will get a great deal.
For me the encouraging thing is that the saving stream wheels are still turning in the face of recent adversity namely the latest default and the confusion surrounding it which must be taking up a lot of the time. It does look like business as normal and that can only be a good thing.
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Post by ladywhitenap on Jun 2, 2016 11:56:34 GMT
Looks like the allocation is £270
LW
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Post by retired2005 on Jun 2, 2016 12:11:14 GMT
Yep ....£270
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Post by mikes1531 on Jun 2, 2016 14:22:26 GMT
At the moment, the SS website shows the PBL060 loan amount to be £3.559M. Has that changed from what it was before today's allocations? If not, what does that number mean?
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cooling_dude
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Post by cooling_dude on Jun 2, 2016 14:24:51 GMT
At the moment, the SS website shows the PBL060 loan amount to be £3.559M. Has that changed from what it was before today's allocations? If not, what does that number mean? It has changed From my index page (where I have yet to alter the PBL60 loan to reflect the new Tranche), I list the loan as £3,094,000; so the indicated loan amount on the SS site does reflect the additional Tranche.
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Post by oldgrumpy on Jun 6, 2016 11:12:50 GMT
Ta! No I didn't - weather too nice so went to sleep in the garden instead (squirrel frightening duties). I see there are some recent images here [ links removed as the photos have titles identifying the building project and so the borrower]
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