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Post by brianac on Jun 3, 2016 15:32:44 GMT
SM gone mad, looks like a lot of people having a fire sale, tons on SM and increasing rapidly.
What's happening?
Brian
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Jun 3, 2016 15:40:36 GMT
Server meltdown - almost impossible to log in, display what's available, and then buy it.
Possibly because there is a lot of parts available, and a lot of people (trying) to look.
Or possibly because SS just don't have enough server capacity.
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Post by sam i am on Jun 3, 2016 15:46:50 GMT
I wonder how many people have more in the new loans than they wanted and are now having to rapidly offload other loans to balance the books. With the new 7 day rule it's not possible to dump the loans just allocated if you have negative funds. Trouble is that this extra activity is causing server meltdown. Law of unintended consequences?
It will be interesting to see how much of the new loans hit the SM in 7 days time.
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Jun 3, 2016 15:58:52 GMT
I don't think that'll fly as an explanation - if you are going to have to dump £5k into the sale queue it doesn't matter (to the server) whether it's the new loan, last week's, or an antique. Besides which the sale queue is not that large - seen much more for sale in recent history. Has to be some serious glitch at the SS end of things (a minute to login, and another minute to re-display the available loans page is hard to excuse .. as someone said elsewhere that is almost Feeble Computing levels of performance. I have a 80386 PC somewhere that'll do better than that.)
Meantime if you ARE logged in, with the patience of a saint (or bot) it's happy hunting time.
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Post by brianac on Jun 3, 2016 16:05:44 GMT
Well there's 76k5 on the SM without the "Mcbeth" loan (currently just under 61k)
uncluding a tiny bit of Duffle 1. (o.K. less that a quid)
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Post by sam i am on Jun 3, 2016 16:26:52 GMT
I don't think that'll fly as an explanation - if you are going to have to dump £5k into the sale queue it doesn't matter (to the server) whether it's the new loan, last week's, or an antique. Besides which the sale queue is not that large - seen much more for sale in recent history. Has to be some serious glitch at the SS end of things (a minute to login, and another minute to re-display the available loans page is hard to excuse .. as someone said elsewhere that is almost Feeble Computing levels of performance. I have a 80386 PC somewhere that'll do better than that.) Meantime if you ARE logged in, with the patience of a saint (or bot) it's happy hunting time. I'm not a techie but I had figured that there is more activity associated with shedding bits of (say) ten loans which is what lenders are probably doing rather than one big chunk of a new loan. But if you're telling me that there's a serious glitch with the SS server then I'm really not going to disagree with you 
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Jun 3, 2016 16:45:21 GMT
Sam, I just can't see enough bits for sale to account for the slowdown. Hundreds, yes, but it ought be able to handle thousands or even 10s of thousands, unless it is running on an Excel spreadsheet or something. Whatever the cause it does seem to be easing off a bit now (although there is still quite a bit out there, and more appearing).
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Post by jimbob on Jun 3, 2016 16:49:05 GMT
I've tidied up my Beds farmland, I assume all tranches are pari pasu right  ? Edit: I see 'not quite', D has the buildings which is what I've switched to - most likely they are all linked should anything happen anyways.. |
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Post by Liz on Jun 3, 2016 17:12:38 GMT
I've tidied up my Beds farmland, I assume all tranches are pari pasu right ? Edit: I see 'not quite', D has the buildings which is what I've switched to - most likely they are all linked should anything happen anyways.. A has the property, D the building, B &C has moles 
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Post by goldservice on Jun 4, 2016 10:50:14 GMT
Server meltdown - almost impossible to log in, display what's available, and then buy it. Possibly because there is a lot of parts available, and a lot of people (trying) to look. Or possibly because SS just don't have enough server capacity. It might be a Form of Contagion brought to SS by all those who are fleeing from Flaky Computers.
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Post by NSFW on Jun 4, 2016 11:05:15 GMT
I don't think that'll fly as an explanation - if you are going to have to dump £5k into the sale queue it doesn't matter (to the server) whether it's the new loan, last week's, or an antique. Besides which the sale queue is not that large - seen much more for sale in recent history. Has to be some serious glitch at the SS end of things (a minute to login, and another minute to re-display the available loans page is hard to excuse .. as someone said elsewhere that is almost Feeble Computing levels of performance. I have a 80386 PC somewhere that'll do better than that.) Meantime if you ARE logged in, with the patience of a saint (or bot) it's happy hunting time. I'm not a techie but I had figured that there is more activity associated with shedding bits of (say) ten loans which is what lenders are probably doing rather than one big chunk of a new loan. But if you're telling me that there's a serious glitch with the SS server then I'm really not going to disagree with you People constantly reloading the available loans page is basically a DDoS attack when enough are doing it at one time.
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Jun 4, 2016 14:31:16 GMT
People constantly reloading the available loans page is basically a DDoS attack when enough are doing it at one time. Yes, but Cloudflare (as some people know to their cost) traps that and blocks the IP. If you just sit on the page it reloads itself (after a fashion) with minimal drain on the servers. The load, as far as I can see, was not spectacularly different from what happened after the last £m+ loan was launched, but the site performance sure was much worse. I guess one difference is the large chunk of PBL020 which is just sat there (maybe lots of people's pieces, hard to tell).
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Post by NSFW on Jun 4, 2016 17:43:07 GMT
People constantly reloading the available loans page is basically a DDoS attack when enough are doing it at one time. Yes, but Cloudflare (as some people know to their cost) traps that and blocks the IP. If you just sit on the page it reloads itself (after a fashion) with minimal drain on the servers. The load, as far as I can see, was not spectacularly different from what happened after the last £m+ loan was launched, but the site performance sure was much worse. I guess one difference is the large chunk of PBL020 which is just sat there (maybe lots of people's pieces, hard to tell). I'm guilty of reloading sometimes to clear the zero available loans which hang around for a while it seems and I guess not always trusting that available ones will appear due to that lag. I've got a system now anyway to snap up loans I'm interested in but it should be much easier now that I'm diversified after joining last week.
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Post by mikes1531 on Jun 4, 2016 19:25:08 GMT
I've got a system now anyway to snap up loans I'm interested in ... : You've built yourself a bot?
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Post by NSFW on Jun 4, 2016 21:59:40 GMT
I've got a system now anyway to snap up loans I'm interested in ... : You've built yourself a bot? I don't see how bots can beat the CAPTCHA. The key for us humans is in my original reply that was quoted by another user before I came back and edited this post and might still be available to read in said user's post.
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