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Post by macq on Jan 27, 2019 8:47:38 GMT
Only look every now and again as the wife put some money in a few years back and then just left - but you would think lending to mainly professional landlords and with a tendency to aim the rate at the borrower(they tend to tweak the flex rate when required) and also a PF that there are probably more risky sites for property Why risk it come to bonnie Scotland.. Buy a few nice cheap flats £4500 - £10000 and get 20-25% ROI pay an agent to manage and still make a killing.
may try sending the in-laws for a few years to try it first
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Post by one21 on Jan 27, 2019 10:38:45 GMT
Only look every now and again as the wife put some money in a few years back and then just left - but you would think lending to mainly professional landlords and with a tendency to aim the rate at the borrower(they tend to tweak the flex rate when required) and also a PF that there are probably more risky sites for property Why risk it come to bonnie Scotland.. Buy a few nice cheap flats £4500 - £10000 and get 20-25% ROI pay an agent to manage and still make a killing.
I think my conscience would bother me if my tenants were residing in some of these! I wonder if or how much it would cost to make them habitable?
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Post by Godanubis on Jan 27, 2019 10:52:23 GMT
Why risk it come to bonnie Scotland.. Buy a few nice cheap flats £4500 - £10000 and get 20-25% ROI pay an agent to manage and still make a killing.
I think my conscience would bother me if my tenants were residing in some of these! I wonder if or how much it would cost to make them habitable? There is a whole regeneration program in the area. Spend £10000 doing them up and give your tenants luxury. There are nice river views. You can buy the whole block for less than 1 bedroom flat in London. Plenty of flats under £20000 in Scotland in good areas.
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Post by one21 on Jan 27, 2019 11:28:44 GMT
I think my conscience would bother me if my tenants were residing in some of these! I wonder if or how much it would cost to make them habitable? There is a whole regeneration program in the area. Spend £10000 doing them up and give your tenants luxury. There are nice river views. You can buy the whole block for less than 1 bedroom flat in London. Plenty of flats under £20000 in Scotland in good areas. Thanks for that I will most certainly give it greater consideration !
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Post by zlb on Jan 29, 2019 14:05:41 GMT
I would think 'dangerous' is a little OTT considering the scarcity of accommodation and the commitment of 25% deposit that the borrower stands to loose! I would settle for reduced rental income as worst case! Only look every now and again as the wife put some money in a few years back and then just left - but you would think lending to mainly professional landlords and with a tendency to aim the rate at the borrower(they tend to tweak the flex rate when required) and also a PF that there are probably more risky sites for property do you mean they have a PF? can't find on their website. Do you mean that they would attract better borrowers if they offer loans at lower interest rates?
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Post by macq on Jan 29, 2019 14:26:10 GMT
Only look every now and again as the wife put some money in a few years back and then just left - but you would think lending to mainly professional landlords and with a tendency to aim the rate at the borrower(they tend to tweak the flex rate when required) and also a PF that there are probably more risky sites for property do you mean they have a PF? can't find on their website. Do you mean that they would attract better borrowers if they offer loans at lower interest rates? Under the how it works section is a sub section called minimising risk where the PF is mentioned among other things (called a reserve fund) Or search reserve fund in FAQ The bit i meant about rates is they tend to keep the flexible rate about the same for new loans so if the LIBOR rate goes up they tend to cut their underlying rate so it keeps the rate the same and attractive to the borrower and the lender does not always get the benefit of the rate rise (but the rate will go up for lenders on the older flexi loans)
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Post by zlb on Jan 29, 2019 14:38:19 GMT
thanks macq. So in general, when people say the rate is too low - they mean they just want more money? I'm looking for safer diversification. Or do people mean the rate is too low for the risk taken by lending?
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Post by macq on Jan 29, 2019 15:07:37 GMT
thanks macq . So in general, when people say the rate is too low - they mean they just want more money? I'm looking for safer diversification. Or do people mean the rate is too low for the risk taken by lending? would think in general when most people say the rate is low that yes they want more money and then some would argue risk/reward as well (but i always think that's a personal call and not a blanket statement as some say but others may disagree) Also rates whee higher at the start and when fixed loans finish there fixed term which i believe my wife's have been 3 to 5 years (but shes not here to check)they revert to flexible rate for the rest of there term plus 0.5% which helps Would not like to say LB are safer but i guess there business model has been easy to use,cashback on queued money with slow growth as a business(think there now in profit?)and while the rates are low that may work to the benefit of the borrower,the point i made about them trying to keep the rates about the same in regards late or defaults but who knows
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Post by redeye555 on Feb 1, 2019 0:38:17 GMT
I put some money in back in August on the variable rate. It's now earning 3.41% (Libor + 2.5).
I believe Libor will slowly climb this year and my initial investment will be earning over 4% by December. Trouble is, 10% of my borrowers refinanced/paid up after the rate change in October.
After the decision to raise the rate in line with Libor in January, I've now doubled my investment. It's quite safe an investment and I think there may be rewards in the future.
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Post by df on Feb 1, 2019 14:34:27 GMT
thanks macq . So in general, when people say the rate is too low - they mean they just want more money? I'm looking for safer diversification. Or do people mean the rate is too low for the risk taken by lending? I've used LB in 2017/18 for over a year and withdrawn for that very reason - the return is to low for p2p investment. However, I think very low risk justifies that and it's a good one for safer diversification. Landbay is operating for about 4 years now, default rate remains 0% and nobody's lost any money.
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Post by alender on Feb 2, 2019 9:32:06 GMT
I put some money in back in August on the variable rate. It's now earning 3.41% (Libor + 2.5). I believe Libor will slowly climb this year and my initial investment will be earning over 4% by December. Trouble is, 10% of my borrowers refinanced/paid up after the rate change in October. After the decision to raise the rate in line with Libor in January, I've now doubled my investment. It's quite safe an investment and I think there may be rewards in the future.
The trouble is that LB have a habit of reducing the rate when interest rates are rasied and the LIBOR follows, they have done this for the last 2 rises. However they now seem to be short of funds so perhaps this will not happen the next time.
They do have a good track record and look like one of the safest P2P lenders so I will keep my funds in LB accounts paying higher interest (old ones which have better rates) but remove any repaid funds as the current rate is too low. Also they lend to buy to let which I beleive is not quite as safe as it was before all of the tax changes.
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Post by gravitykillz on Feb 3, 2019 19:06:41 GMT
I considered landbay but lendinvest offered higher rates. Only drawback with lendinvest is you are locked in until the end of the term and it takes weeks to get invested.
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Post by gravitykillz on Feb 3, 2019 19:09:12 GMT
Also lendinvest gives more information on the loan. Not sure what landbay gives but i dont invest more than 70% ltv. Prefer 60% tho
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Post by pom on Feb 4, 2019 11:40:24 GMT
Also lendinvest gives more information on the loan. Not sure what landbay gives but i dont invest more than 70% ltv. Prefer 60% tho Relying on LTVs and rates paid to lenders doesn't give you anywhere near a level playing field for comparison, and the only thing LI & LB have in common is that they have property as security, beyond that they're nothing like each other. A 70% LTV mortgage is nowhere near as risky as a 70% bridging/development loan. If it were nobody would ever be able to buy a house. As for the rates, if you're going to even begin to try and compare them across platforms then you need to consider what's actually being charged to borrowers - even though you might think they're both in the same approx bracket based on rates received you'll probably find they really really aren't.
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Post by gravitykillz on Feb 4, 2019 19:51:00 GMT
Also lendinvest gives more information on the loan. Not sure what landbay gives but i dont invest more than 70% ltv. Prefer 60% tho Relying on LTVs and rates paid to lenders doesn't give you anywhere near a level playing field for comparison, and the only thing LI & LB have in common is that they have property as security, beyond that they're nothing like each other. A 70% LTV mortgage is nowhere near as risky as a 70% bridging/development loan. If it were nobody would ever be able to buy a house. As for the rates, if you're going to even begin to try and compare them across platforms then you need to consider what's actually being charged to borrowers - even though you might think they're both in the same approx bracket based on rates received you'll probably find they really really aren't. So landbay is less risky. Hence the lower rates. Your wisdom is always appreciated pom.
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