dan83
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Post by dan83 on Jul 31, 2016 22:26:36 GMT
What do you big guys do regarding tax on interest?
I will be smashing my £1000 personal saving allowance with interest earned from bank accounts, I don't really want to have to pay tax on interest earned here, I don't want to break any laws either.
Is there any loop holes I can use?
I'm just a regular guy, in the 20% tax bracket, I'm employed (not self employed) and I don't want to over pay my company pension.
My partner will also use up her £1000 PSA, so putting it in her name is also a no-no.
I've read, I have to declare the interest when it is earned. Does the interest count as earned when it is paid or when if is taken out of the account and paid into an account I can with draw money from?
Sorry if this isn't allowed on the forum.
Thanks in advance for any advice or tips, I'll read all (if any) replies but it's some times difficult to reply.
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cooling_dude
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Post by cooling_dude on Jul 31, 2016 22:35:44 GMT
What do you big guys do regarding tax on interest? I will be smashing my £1000 personal saving allowance with interest earned from bank accounts, I don't really want to have to pay tax on interest earned here, I don't want to break any laws either. Is there any loop holes I can use? I'm just a regular guy, in the 20% tax bracket, I'm employed (not self employed) and I don't want to over pay my company pension. My partner will also use up her £1000 PSA, so putting it in her name is also a no-no. I've read, I have to declare the interest when it is earned. Does the interest count as earned when it is paid or when if is taken out of the account and paid into an account I can with draw money from? Sorry if this isn't allowed on the forum. Thanks in advance for any advice or tips, I'll read all (if any) replies but it's some times difficult to reply. Simple answer... Get an accountant! You will have to declare the interest you have earned, whether or not you actually take it of your account. Unfortunately, you'll probably have to take this one on the chin, but next year we will have the IFISA available to us which will shield us from tax
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Post by NSFW on Jul 31, 2016 23:19:16 GMT
By the time I'm earning enough interest to owe tax on it hopefully the IFISA will be available.
If you're PAYE you can just tell HMRC how much you earned above the allowance and then supply any evidence they ask for.
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Jul 31, 2016 23:42:55 GMT
What do you big guys do regarding tax on interest? I will be smashing my £1000 personal saving allowance with interest earned from bank accounts, I don't really want to have to pay tax on interest earned here, I don't want to break any laws either. Is there any loop holes I can use? I'm just a regular guy, in the 20% tax bracket, I'm employed (not self employed) and I don't want to over pay my company pension. My partner will also use up her £1000 PSA, so putting it in her name is also a no-no. I've read, I have to declare the interest when it is earned. Does the interest count as earned when it is paid or when if is taken out of the account and paid into an account I can with draw money from? Sorry if this isn't allowed on the forum. Thanks in advance for any advice or tips, I'll read all (if any) replies but it's some times difficult to reply. Simple answer... Get an accountant! Sounds expensive He's just a regular guy, not a master criminal trying to avoid his accounts getting frozen. Some perspective, Victor
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littleoldlady
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Post by littleoldlady on Aug 1, 2016 8:03:16 GMT
Interest payers have to inform HMRC of payments made so they will know what you have received whether you declare it or not, so my advice would be to tell them. Regard your marginal interest rate on SS to be 9.6% after tax - still pretty good.
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Jeepers
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Post by Jeepers on Aug 1, 2016 8:46:57 GMT
Has someone forgot to turn the interest tap on? Was all paid by about 8.30 last month
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Post by Monetus on Aug 1, 2016 8:51:07 GMT
Has someone forgot to turn the interest tap on? Was all paid by about 8.30 last month It's usually paid by around lunchtime. Give them a chance to get into the office, drink some coffee etc.
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cooling_dude
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Post by cooling_dude on Aug 1, 2016 8:53:20 GMT
Has someone forgot to turn the interest tap on? Was all paid by about 8.30 last month I think we were just lucky last month - Being a Monday morning, the ibuprofen probably hasn't kicked in yet Generally, interest is sent between 10.30am and 11.30am
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Post by dualinvestor on Aug 1, 2016 9:29:22 GMT
Has someone forgot to turn the interest tap on? Was all paid by about 8.30 last month I think we were just lucky last month - Being a Monday morning, the ibuprofen probably hasn't kicked in yet Generally, interest is sent between 10.30am and 11.30am It was a Friday last month, maybe the person responsible wanted to get away for a long weekend, and as someone mentioned has a hangover to clear on a Monday. On the matter of declaring for tax, Lendy Ltd/SS might send the information o HMRC but irrespective of whether they do or not it is still the responsibility of the taxpayer to inform HMRC of the income. For most people this can be done either by a self assessment tax return, a letter to HMRC or (when they become fully operational) opening a "tax account" on gov.uk. ISAs will shield some income from tax but there are limits on the capital that can be invested in them, although you will probably be able to transfer existing ISAs into the IFISA. Penalties for not declaring income are quite severe.
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Post by trilby on Aug 1, 2016 9:52:49 GMT
The tap is open...
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Post by ped on Aug 1, 2016 10:44:23 GMT
What do you big guys do regarding tax on interest? I will be smashing my £1000 personal saving allowance with interest earned from bank accounts, I don't really want to have to pay tax on interest earned here, I don't want to break any laws either. Is there any loop holes I can use? I'm just a regular guy, in the 20% tax bracket, I'm employed (not self employed) and I don't want to over pay my company pension. My partner will also use up her £1000 PSA, so putting it in her name is also a no-no. I've read, I have to declare the interest when it is earned. Does the interest count as earned when it is paid or when if is taken out of the account and paid into an account I can with draw money from? Sorry if this isn't allowed on the forum. Thanks in advance for any advice or tips, I'll read all (if any) replies but it's some times difficult to reply. Dan - I went to the Tax Statement tab and set the dates for the last Tax year then exported it to PDF. Then posted it to HMRC, they are kind enough to adjust my PAYE code. My understanding is you have until 1st Oct 2016 to tell them about Tax year '15-'16 but don't quote me on that.
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Post by supernumerary on Aug 1, 2016 11:03:56 GMT
Special Verse 4, written 1st August 2016, with acknowledgements to contributors; “Has someone forgot to turn the (Saving Stream) interest tap on?” “Was all paid by about 8.30 last month” jeepers“I think we were just lucky last month - Being a Monday morning, the ibuprofen probably hasn't kicked in yet ” “Generally, interest is sent between 10.30am and 11.30am” cooling_dude Like clockwork at 10:53am approx: “The tap is open...” trilby 1%, 1%, 1% onwards, every month. 12%, 12%, 12% onwards, every year.Previous verses with acknowledgement to those who inspired them… I just thought with all the negativity regarding the SM glut, it was time to put things in perspective. SS have successfully managed to launch £12 million of loans in a single day. That is a massive achievement and signs of a strong and growing platform. Well done SS. The loan parts on the SM represent approximately 2% of all outstanding loans and probably won't last long once you take into account new joiners, impending loan repayments and monthly interest. So, on a more positive note, congratulations to all the team. Well said in the title too. It inspired me to write a poem. Saving Stream is like a money machine. Yachts, ship yards, student accommodation blocks, Quarries and a few flats in Chelsea. Farmland, farms, bungalows and ‘swamps’. 1%, 1%, 1% onwards, every month. 12%, 12%, 12% onwards, every year.
Saving Stream is like a printing press. Cooling Dude from P2P, (who doesn’t work for Saving Stream!), Does the independent stress test. Rule of thumb, calculator and slide rule invigilated. 1%, 1%, 1% onwards, every month. 12%, 12%, 12% onwards, every year.You didn't mention return of capital. Nor the constant extension of loans and a default. Maybe that will be mentioned in verse 3. Special Verse 3, for Liz;Saving Stream is like a metronome, with loans repaid. Loans may be late, but still the interest is paid. Loans may default, but savers have been FULLY recompensed (21st June 2016), The Provision Fund and loan book grow in strength. 1%, 1%, 1% onwards, every month. 12%, 12%, 12% onwards, every year.
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Post by james on Aug 2, 2016 20:27:03 GMT
What do you big guys do regarding tax on interest? Tell HMRC as appropriate and pay the tax, of course. Platforms are required by law to notify HMRC and HMRC has asked platforms for reports. All that will happen if you don't tell HMRC is that if the amount is not trivial HMRC will get interested in you in a negative way and potentially add penalties and interest to the tax you should have paid. If you have not declared past years just get on with telling HMRC by phone or letter and they are likely to take no action other than collecting the tax due, particularly if it's only a few hundred Pounds of interest. So don't worry about it, just get on with doing it. I've read, I have to declare the interest when it is earned. Does the interest count as earned when it is paid or when if is taken out of the account and paid into an account I can with draw money from? For normal UK resident individual tax payers (so not non-doms or companies) the effective date for the interest earned is the day that it is first paid to you, regardless of which account it is paid to. So a P2P platform account counts and it doesn't matter whether you take it out at the time or not. A company or non-dom may need to use accrual basis which has an effective tax date at the time the interest accrued, not the time when it was paid. Is there any loop holes I can use? I buy VCTs. 30% tax relief from HMRC limited at the income tax actually due by you for the tax year of purchase, have to hold for at least five years or repay the 30%, lots of variation in risk level among VCTs. Completely legal and I'm doing quite nicely from the combination. For example, I asked a platform that was doing interest on a loan by hand to pay me in this tax year rather than last for a payment formally due to be calculated and paid at the end of March. As an individual this moved the tax year but using accrual basis it wouldn't have because it still was contractually due to accrue at the end of the month. That helped to fine tune my tax bill closer to zero after I'd earlier done the planning steps I could do earlier in the year. This is a potentially useful bit of tax optimisation and it might be worth asking Saving Stream if they can do this to shift their 1 April payment to 6 April for those who want that, assuming nobody indicates that it won't be effective for tax purposes. It's potentially a bit of last minute tax tuning for those who have already used their other planning options earlier in the year.
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dan83
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Post by dan83 on Aug 9, 2016 21:09:35 GMT
Thanks for all the replies.
I made 89p last year using P2P.
I'll have to make a call and tell them, what info will they ask for?
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Post by pom on Aug 10, 2016 8:14:08 GMT
Thanks for all the replies. I made 89p last year using P2P. I'll have to make a call and tell them, what info will they ask for? If you really only made 89p it would be lost in rounding (HMRC only care about whole pounds when working out the taxable amount, they round down income and round up any tax already paid). Assuming only the amount was in jest, then your payslip should have enough info for them to identify you (and will probably have the best number to call them on too).
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