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Post by webbski9 on Aug 8, 2016 8:40:05 GMT
Savings Stream...not the best publicity ...explanation please Investors left exposed to ex-bankrupt....
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Post by jonboy73 on Aug 8, 2016 9:18:41 GMT
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Post by webbski9 on Aug 8, 2016 9:49:09 GMT
Thanks jonboy,I spotted it after I posted this :-)
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Post by easilyparted on Aug 8, 2016 10:12:47 GMT
And even more on The Farming Forum,nearly 200 pages,over 450.000 hits.................all about the man Saving Stream lent money to.But don't worry SS are not the first,he has caught far bigger fish for far more.
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Post by savingstream on Aug 8, 2016 14:13:29 GMT
In an article in The Times, dated 8th August 2016, some comments were made about Saving Stream, and certain loans written through the platform. We feel that this article omitted a number of salient points which would enable investors to make a proper judgment about the issues involved. It is important to us to be clear with our investors over the loans and the properties they are investing in. It is not our policy to comment on individual borrowers, but all borrowers are, of course, subject to due diligence. In bridging finance, the value of the asset upon which the loan is secured is necessarily the single most important of the criteria upon which we make the commercial decision over whether or not to lend. The other main criteria include the due diligence on the borrower, and the interest rate and other terms of the loan. In case of default on a bridging loan, the lender’s recourse is to repossess the asset and use the proceeds of a sale to ensure that it recovers as much of the loan as possible. In the first of the two cases of default from the 125 loans written by Saving Stream, we achieved 100% recovery. We also expect close to 100% recovery in the second case. We also maintain a discretionary provision fund equal to 2% of the value of current loans. It stands at £2.5 million at present. This fund may, at the discretion of the directors, be used to make up any shortfall in case recovery does not reach 100% of the loan value. The Times article states, in reference to PBL064, “One of the loans, worth £2 million, is secured against a tenanted office block that Saving Stream said was worth £2.9 million. The building had been purchased for £900,000 in 2014.” The valuation of this property was undertaken by a large commercial property valuation agency with specialist expertise in this area. All property valuations in relation to Saving Stream loans are undertaken by independent valuers. Should the valuation of any property be negligent, Saving Stream would have recourse to the valuer’s professional indemnity insurance. We agree with Andrew Tyrie’s warning in the article that “poorly informed investors may be left with a false sense of security about the balance of risks versus return” by some P2P platforms. That is why our website has a detailed risk statement, explaining the risks to investors of making investments through Saving Stream. That risk assessment is linked at the top of our homepage to ensure all investors read and understand it before making an investment. We welcome the FCA’s review of the P2P industry, and comply fully with all requirements placed upon us by the regulator.
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Aug 8, 2016 14:23:56 GMT
savingstream is there any info you can provide on the circumstances of the quoted previous sale? Was it a related party transaction, debt forgiveness or a prepackaged admin of the previous owner which would have resulted in a below market sale price? Perhaps you could provide an update on platform which addresses this issue with regards to PBL64 which is the most pertinent point in relation to the strength of the security the loan is secured on.
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Post by goopy on Aug 8, 2016 15:20:24 GMT
Extract from 'Risk Assessment';
Before we allow each Borrower to receive their loan, we make identity, fraud and credit checks. We also use the Borrower’s credit reference, and certain additional Information that we verify, to assess the affordability of the loan. If we find that the information was inaccurate or deficient the loan will not proceed.
I take it these checks were carried out on the borrower in the case of PBL's 064 and 056?
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Post by meledor on Aug 8, 2016 15:49:16 GMT
Extract from 'Risk Assessment';Before we allow each Borrower to receive their loan, we make identity, fraud and credit checks. We also use the Borrower’s credit reference, and certain additional Information that we verify, to assess the affordability of the loan. If we find that the information was inaccurate or deficient the loan will not proceed.I take it these checks were carried out on the borrower in the case of PBL's 064 and 056?
From Savinstream's comment above:
"The other main criteria include the due diligence on the borrower..."
So the answer would seem to be "yes"
I think you were possibly attracted to the 'fraud' word in your comment. I have seen a number of allegations from a rather determined group but it is rather surprising in the light of the seriousness of what is suggested that they have struggled to get any support from the courts or regulatory authorities. Also a parliament committee discussed the matter in 2014 but nothing has happened since which I find strange if all this talk had some substance. Don't believe everything you read in the press/forums
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