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Post by puffin on Sept 24, 2016 22:15:03 GMT
'Systematic Risk'? : The risk inherent to the entire market or an entire market segment. Systematic risk, also known as “undiversifiable risk,” “volatility” or “market risk,” affects the overall market, not just a particular stock or industry. - InvestipediaIt seems the P2x sites I checked(SS, AC, FC, FS, RS, MT) are using Barclays bank. What happens if Barclays goes bust? Or simply has a lockdown on it's accounts. Which P2x don't use Barclays?
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Post by Liz on Sept 24, 2016 22:22:42 GMT
'Systematic Risk'? : The risk inherent to the entire market or an entire market segment. Systematic risk, also known as “undiversifiable risk,” “volatility” or “market risk,” affects the overall market, not just a particular stock or industry. - InvestipediaIt seems the P2x sites I checked(SS, AC, FC, FS, RS, MT) are using Barclays bank. What happnens if Barclays goes bust? Or simply has a lockdown on it's accounts. Which P2x don't use Barclays? Bust, is that likely? They are in the "too big to fail" category. Has Barclays upset you?
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Post by jonah on Sept 25, 2016 8:19:01 GMT
If it goes pop, the uk government will bail it out. I don't have figures to hand, but the number of SME businesses using them will be significant. So whilst there could be a short hiccup or two (see RBS in 2013 I think) they won't be going anywhere.
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Post by adrianc on Sept 25, 2016 10:38:04 GMT
Has Barclays upset you? Many, MANY times... Of all the banks, they are the one I'd be happiest to see meet the fan. When I started my last company up, my business partner and I sat down to figure out who to bank with. We made a list of all the business bank account providers, and crossed those off who one or the other of us wouldn't touch again after direct personal experiences... That left us with exactly one, who promptly proved they were no different...
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Post by skippyonspeed on Sept 25, 2016 12:42:50 GMT
Has Barclays upset you? Try typing "Barclays business bank account review" in Yahoogle............finding a score above 1* is on a par with rocking horse s*!*
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Post by Liz on Sept 25, 2016 17:40:42 GMT
Has Barclays upset you? Try typing "Barclays business bank account review" in Yahoogle............finding a score above 1* is on a par with rocking horse s*!* I've have seen the same for all of the big banks, including Santander. I actually need to know a good bank for a business account, for a LTD company consultancy firm we are starting up in a few months, if any bank left has a good reputation.
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Post by nick on Sept 25, 2016 18:52:17 GMT
It is precisely because the failure of Barclays would pose too much of a systematic risk to the whole financial system that it will always be bailed out one way or another by the government to protect deposit holders and avoid a full scale bank run and loss in confidence.
Even if Barclays were allowed to fail, investor money held in client accounts would be covered by FSCS providing each individual investor with £50k protection (as long as client money had been properly segregated and maintained in the pooled client account).
Overall I would be far more concerned with a platform failure versus the collapse of Barclays or any other of the big banks, the risk of the later imo being immaterial compared to the former. Given the explosive growth in P2P loans, my biggest fear is a ponzi type fraud which could easily be perpetuated when net deposits are rising so significantly and expected to keep doing so. Regulation of the sector is still very light - most firms don't even require a statutory audit which would give at least give a base level of confidence. The biggest P2P platform failure to date (outside China), Trustbuddy last year was effectively due to ponzi type activity early on in the platform's life. The Madoff fraud shows how it is possible to pull off a gigantic fraud, in that case by a established, well known and respected individual using investment manager that was subject to audit and whose activity were overseen by several US regulators.......
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Post by adrianc on Sept 25, 2016 22:46:15 GMT
...if any bank left has a good reputation. <hollow, if deafening, laughter>
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Post by SteveT on Sept 26, 2016 7:08:04 GMT
I've have seen the same for all of the big banks, including Santander. I actually need to know a good bank for a business account, for a LTD company consultancy firm we are starting up in a few months, if any bank left has a good reputation. Funnily enough, I've operated with a basic Santander business current account for 13 years and have had no complaints at all. It's entirely free for the limited services I use; basically just Faster Payments in and out, which are processed instantly 24-7. Both their website and mobile app are competent and I can do all that I need to do without ever calling them (touches everything made of wood in the vicinity).
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Post by markr on Sept 26, 2016 14:04:47 GMT
Funnily enough, I've operated with a basic Santander business current account for 13 years and have had no complaints at all. Ditto. We had a business account with HSBC, who were awful, so we switched to A&L (still branded as Girobank at the time), and stayed with them when Santander absorbed them. Never had any trouble with them at all.
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Post by adrianc on Sept 26, 2016 14:20:47 GMT
Funnily enough, I've operated with a basic Santander business current account for 13 years and have had no complaints at all. Ditto. We had a business account with HSBC, who were awful, so we switched to A&L (still branded as Girobank at the time), and stayed with them when Santander absorbed them. Never had any trouble with them at all. That'll be the Santander who, after several years of allowing us to operate the M-i-L's account under power of attorney, suddenly decided that they knew nothing of any PoA, and then took months to accept that actually - yes - it did exist...? Still, not as bad as Barclays in that respect. Their particular brand of wuckfittery over the PoA got as far as the Chief Exec's office. Then there was the saga of the F-i-L's safe deposit box... Anything any bank can cock up, Barclays can cock up better...
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Post by markr on Sept 26, 2016 16:11:18 GMT
For personal banking, IMO, First Direct are ahead of the game by a country mile, I've banked with them for over 20 years and they have been excellent. They've made a small handful of mistakes over that time but have always been quick to put them right in a timely fashion. They did refuse me an offset mortgage, which was disappointing since I was a long standing good customer (it was essentially a technicality and the agent was pretty apologetic but unfortunately a "computer says no" problem). Oh, and another niggle, they have a dedicated Bereavement Team, who are excellent, but you can only get to them by going through normal security and asking for them, at which point the chirpy, cheerful "how can I help you today" operator suddenly becomes all dour and serious!
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Post by registerme on Sept 27, 2016 14:06:03 GMT
For personal banking, IMO, First Direct are ahead of the game by a country mile, Agreed. I've been with First Direct for 15 odd years now and their service has never been anything other than excellent. Which I can't say about any other bank (or utility company, or local government service, or ..... well, anything really).
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Post by jimbob on Sept 27, 2016 15:18:59 GMT
For personal banking, IMO, First Direct are ahead of the game by a country mile, Agreed. I've been with First Direct for 15 odd years now and their service has never been anything other than excellent. Which I can't say about any other bank (or utility company, or local government service, or ..... well, anything really). First Direct is very hassle free (I have my mortgage and a current account with them) Their regular saver is paying 6% this year again, which is nice too. Had no issues with Nationwide, Lloyds, M&S or TSB either to be honest since I've joined them. The cinema tickets from Lloyds are a nice perk
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Post by ilmoro on Sept 27, 2016 15:40:01 GMT
Personally no issues with FD, though they are in the doghouse for chopping their ISA rates by 60% more than the BOE rate drop
However, recommended them to a relative and theyve been appalling. Didnt process an application form and therfore failed to process a switch within allowed time, have had to be chased over numerous things. Good chance the account will be getting moved somewhere else (leaving bonus is a plus)
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