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Post by pepperpot on Oct 20, 2016 8:38:38 GMT
SS pink pages, seems an obvious choice.
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Post by adrianc on Oct 20, 2016 8:41:33 GMT
SS pink pages, seems an obvious choice. Problem with that is that the AC pink pages are access-controlled by the platform confirming who is registered as a lender. Would savingstream be so involved?
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Post by pepperpot on Oct 20, 2016 9:18:21 GMT
OK, the pitch.
DD on SS loans should only be of interest to SS investors and 'the competition'. This way SS get to control who knows what's going on, it's only a one time set up for each investor so shouldn't be too onerous in the long term.
(I'd suggest a nice hue of SS blue to differentiate when viewing in 'all recent posts' mode)
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Post by elliotn on Oct 20, 2016 9:25:15 GMT
Yes, a light to mid blue.
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Post by ablender on Oct 20, 2016 11:52:48 GMT
savingstream: Can you please organise a "private/pink" section for SS on this forum?
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Post by ablender on Oct 20, 2016 20:54:54 GMT
And nary a whisper of response from any mods. Seems they've gone to ground. Or maybe they're learning from SS? /mod hat off, but viewing it from that perspective .. I'm on vacation, as it happens, but from what I can see CD was reminded (again) that naming/identifying borrowers is a no-no, and after a couple of warnings (I have myself collected at least one, by accident) you WILL get banned. By all means ask for a log-in protected board (like the AC one) where Google crawl-bots are locked out, in which case different rules apply. Or, IIRC, someone started a wiki, where different rules apply. The rules here are pretty clear, and have to be applied to everyone, regardless of how much, and how usefully, they post. I personally find CDs contributions quite useful (usually) but that won't excuse breaking forum rules .. maybe someone would like to proof read his inputs by PM before he posts, and catch problems before they reach the general public? What is required to set up a log-in protected board (like AC's pink pages)?
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Post by registerme on Oct 21, 2016 0:13:09 GMT
/mod hat off, but viewing it from that perspective .. I'm on vacation, as it happens, but from what I can see CD was reminded (again) that naming/identifying borrowers is a no-no, and after a couple of warnings (I have myself collected at least one, by accident) you WILL get banned. By all means ask for a log-in protected board (like the AC one) where Google crawl-bots are locked out, in which case different rules apply. Or, IIRC, someone started a wiki, where different rules apply. The rules here are pretty clear, and have to be applied to everyone, regardless of how much, and how usefully, they post. I personally find CDs contributions quite useful (usually) but that won't excuse breaking forum rules .. maybe someone would like to proof read his inputs by PM before he posts, and catch problems before they reach the general public? What is required to set up a log-in protected board (like AC's pink pages)? Using AC's private board as an example, the process is roughly as follows:- 1. The forumite in question approaches the platform and says "hi, I'm xyz on the P2P Independent Forum, please can I have access to the AC private forum". 2. The platform has to confirm this. 3. The platform emails the admins of the P2P Independent Forum. 4. The admins make the necessary changes (simple, but it does take time). 5. The admin PMs the forumite telling them that they have access. 6. The admin replies to the AC email saying that this has been done. (7. NOT DONE - no regular audit of extant accounts to ensure that everything is currently correct). Whether or not "private boards" will continue, or be extended, is an open question. As is whether they should, or could, be extended to other platforms. AC got an early pass here because they helped set up this forum. Note, this isn't any kind of "threat" to the AC private forum, just an acknowledgement that the world is changing rapidly and I / we don't have all the answers - some of this will be regulatory drive, some of it driven by platform desires, some of it by mod / admin capacity. Providing this service for one platform is not, currently, onerous. To do so for more platforms, or more types of sub-forum, would quickly become... dull. Two other points worth making:- 1. The AC private forum is still subject to forum rules, and moderation as and when required (though almost by definition it requires less moderation). 2. The AC private forum, and others if they appear, are subject to P2P Independent Forum rules, not platform rules. Tagging andrewholgate simply because of the AC mention.
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Post by Neil_P2PBlog on Oct 21, 2016 1:27:05 GMT
For a private forum, would a simplified process like this be ok? 1. Forumite who wants access sends request to admin 2. Admin says, please send me a screenshot of savingstream.co.uk/loans/updates when you are logged in (that page needs login I believe) 3. Forumite sends screenshot of that page once they are logged in and with latest updates to prove they are a real member |
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Post by elliotn on Oct 21, 2016 4:39:27 GMT
Thank you registerme, I asked the mods what the process yesterday. Hopefully savingstream are seeing the demand on this forum. I will add to this by sending an email to @support if others would care to join me  . |
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Post by elliotn on Oct 21, 2016 4:54:08 GMT
Example of request I made to SS below.
I think a separate sign-in for SS investors would be a useful complement for PIF as the most platform popular page on the forum and the need to protect borrowers' identity although these can be assessed/monitored on a case by case basis:
Hi George,
There's discussion at the moment on P2P Indepenent Forum regarding setting up a members' page requiring log-in by SS investors so that we can discuss upcoming and live loans.
This provides us with invaluable insight and the confidence to invest in loans. A private forum page would allow us to maintain this while not divulging details of SS borrowers to non-investors.
Could you please forward this request although SS are presumably aware of the popularity/need for this in their own monitoring of this forum for getting a feel for investors' needs.
Many thanks for your help,
Kind regards,
elliottm.
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Post by registerme on Oct 21, 2016 8:12:48 GMT
Example of request I made to SS below. I think a separate sign-in for SS investors would be a useful complement for PIF as the most platform popular page on the forum and the need to protect borrowers' identity although these can be assessed/monitored on a case by case basis: Hi George, There's discussion at the moment on P2P Indepenent Forum regarding setting up a members' page requiring log-in by SS investors so that we can discuss upcoming and live loans. This provides us with invaluable insight and the confidence to invest in loans. A private forum page would allow us to maintain this while not divulging details of SS borrowers to non-investors. Could you please forward this request although SS are presumably aware of the popularity/need for this in their own monitoring of this forum for getting a feel for investors' needs. Many thanks for your help, Kind regards, elliottm. Note that I made no promises about our willingness or capacity to set up and administrate such a private board (quite the reverse actually), even if there is demand for it and Saving Stream are supportive. There is work involved.
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Post by ablender on Oct 21, 2016 8:13:03 GMT
GSV3MIaC What is required to set up a log-in protected board (like AC's pink pages)? Using AC's private board as an example, the process is roughly as follows:- 1. The forumite in question approaches the platform and says "hi, I'm xyz on the P2P Independent Forum, please can I have access to the AC private forum". 2. The platform has to confirm this. 3. The platform emails the admins of the P2P Independent Forum. 4. The admins make the necessary changes (simple, but it does take time). 5. The admin PMs the forumite telling them that they have access. 6. The admin replies to the AC email saying that this has been done. (7. NOT DONE - no regular audit of extant accounts to ensure that everything is currently correct). Whether or not "private boards" will continue, or be extended, is an open question. As is whether they should, or could, be extended to other platforms. AC got an early pass here because they helped set up this forum. Note, this isn't any kind of "threat" to the AC private forum, just an acknowledgement that the world is changing rapidly and I / we don't have all the answers - some of this will be regulatory drive, some of it driven by platform desires, some of it by mod / admin capacity. Providing this service for one platform is not, currently, onerous. To do so for more platforms, or more types of sub-forum, would quickly become... dull. Two other points worth making:- 1. The AC private forum is still subject to forum rules, and moderation as and when required (though almost by definition it requires less moderation). 2. The AC private forum, and others if they appear, are subject to P2P Independent Forum rules, not platform rules. Tagging andrewholgate simply because of the AC mention. Thanks, registermeI was asking mostly re how it is set up rather than how a member can join once it is set up. I am sure the extra information will be helpful for others though. So, if I understand well, if savingstream had to ask for such a private forum to be set up, it is not given that it will happen. Then, perhaps, SS should consider setting up a forum as part of their own website.
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Post by registerme on Oct 21, 2016 8:22:37 GMT
Ahh ok. Well it's basically a set of behind the scenes admin functions within a Pro-Boards toolset. You have to create the forum, and you have to create permissions groups for it, then you have to populate those groups. Obviously you also need to integrate with some set of platform processes in order to keep it current (which is pretty much what I described above).
I have little idea as to how easy / difficult it might be for a platform to set up their own internal forums. In large part it will depend on their technology choices. Though I will note that, as I understand it, those platforms that do host internal forums can find their management, how shall I put it, "challenging".
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Post by star dust on Oct 21, 2016 8:28:01 GMT
Then, perhaps, SS should consider setting up a forum as part of their own website. They did here, it did not end well, conclusion here. Always worth another try, but I don't see it flying.
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Post by ablender on Oct 21, 2016 8:31:40 GMT
Then, perhaps, SS should consider setting up a forum as part of their own website. They did here, it did not end well, conclusion here. Always worth another try, but I don't see it flying. Yes, but this is now a totally different situation.
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