dermot
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Post by dermot on Oct 23, 2016 22:18:53 GMT
Got what I wanted too and I see there is now £1.8mill "left".
I am a little surprised to see people having a fit of the vapours and abandoning the entire platform after a one day delay and one good-humoured quip referring to one loan (plus, I suppose, a bit of missing communication).
After all, (and I'm not knocking AC here) it is rare that AC, for instance, actually hits the pre-announced target day, generally due to the machinations of the legal profession (I believe oak gall is in short supply, so the clerks are delayed making their own ink for writing letters - and delays in cutting their own quills too ...). MT hit a an issue with a delay/cancellation only the other day too.
All that said, be nice to see a few more updates on the older problem loans, I guess.
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Post by fasty on Oct 23, 2016 22:19:23 GMT
Same here. I'm surprised at the amount of fuss about the exact launch time; admittedly they shouldn't have been so precise unless they were certain to deliver.
It's a wonder that any kind of financial organisation is working at the weekend, and it's great to have them make the effort to contribute here. Unfortunately they're not going to please everyone whatever they say. It must be frustrating.
I only live around the corner from SS. I wondered earlier whether some people might encourage me to go and petulantly stamp my foot outside SS towers until the PBL was launched. Incidentally, has anyone had a chance to see the fascinating grade 2 listed pile they inhabit? Distinct shades of Addams family, it really is amazing. The name of the house also appears to be spelled incorrectly on the SS web site and companies house documents. Duh.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 22:24:56 GMT
Unfortunately they're not going to please everyone whatever they say. It must be frustrating. Its funny, I've read so many posts and reviews over the recent weeks complaining about there being nothing on the SM. Now we have complaints about too much on the SM. It must be infuriating dealing with gaggles of easily spooked and hypersensitive retail investors. No wonder platforms seem to be gravitating towards commercial rather than retail money.
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mikes1531
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Post by mikes1531 on Oct 24, 2016 1:48:33 GMT
I'm surprised at the amount of fuss about the exact launch time... I hope I'm not in the minority here thinking this thread and some people's reactions have gone a bit over the top. Savingstream will let us know when a loan is expected to become available but it's not a dead cert. Sometimes they get rushed through, other times they take a little longer. I'm really surprised that people continue to think that the fuss was about the exact launch time. It wasn't. The worst of the fuss started when SS claimed there hadn't been a delay. The words they chose to use didn't help, but the real problem was their denial that any delay had occurred.
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mikes1531
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Post by mikes1531 on Oct 24, 2016 2:02:24 GMT
Why would they launch it today? They will save about £2300 by launching in tomorrow... they'll have save £4600 by not launching on Saturday and have more chance of funds been on account at time of launch as people have already sold old parts. I don't think this is the case (i could be wrong), unless the loan is repaid 2 days early, they will pay that interest anyway. dan83 : AIUI, borrowers pay interest from drawdown until the loan is repaid. Investors are paid interest from the time they're allocated a part -- or buy one -- until the loan is repaid. So whenever a loan is released before drawdown, SS are paying investors the interest for the time between release and drawdown. This probably comes out of the upfront fees Lendy charge. So SS/Lendy probably saved £2300 by launching the loan on Sunday rather than Saturday. I'm not trying to suggest that's why they delayed the launch -- I expect they had other, better, reasons. But that still is an effect of the delay, even if it didn't influence the timing decision.
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Post by arbster on Oct 24, 2016 6:29:41 GMT
It's remarkable how many brand new forum accounts have been created this weekend by "heavy investors" in Saving Stream to complain about this loan and to say they're pulling out of Saving Stream as a result. I'd never have thought big hitters could be so emotional and impulsive...
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Post by SteveT on Oct 24, 2016 6:36:52 GMT
Still £1.8m or so available this morning (at least) and, judging by the large sums available in many loans that are rarely spied on the SM, my guess is there could be a fair bit more coming back in a day or two from those caught out by the SM glut and now struggling to sell other parts...
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Post by elliotn on Oct 24, 2016 6:40:41 GMT
It's remarkable how many brand new forum accounts have been created this weekend by "heavy investors" in Saving Stream to complain about this loan and to say they're pulling out of Saving Stream as a result. I'd never have thought big hitters could be so emotional and impulsive... B*** sHitters, even .
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Post by hazellend on Oct 24, 2016 7:29:49 GMT
Jeez, a lot of people need to take 10 deep breaths and calm down.
Also, I find it highly unlikely any big investors are seriously pulling out.
Unless you have 100ks in saving stream you are a small fish.
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Post by mack on Oct 24, 2016 7:31:01 GMT
2 cents worth: 1) savingstream communication has always been generally poor. They were better at the beginning but have no consistency at all. It's a small company and what you get is based on the character of the individuals. They need a communication/marketing manager who is better versed in dealing with investors. 2) Some loans are very good, some not so good. There is a need to be selective. 3) The SM being clogged up is nothing new. Whenever they have released too much this has happened. They recalled the large batch of London loans when they were not going to be filled. There is a certain capacity that will easily fill. The new loan is above that. They may or may not take up the slack. 4) Prefunding for such a large loan is silly. And the numbers they get in will never be a true reflection of actual demand. 5) There are some good pickings but there is a herd mentality. When fewer people buy, then all stop buying. I am now topping on other safer loans which 2 days ago would have been snapped up!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2016 8:08:05 GMT
3) The SM being clogged up is nothing new. Whenever they have released too much this has happened. They recalled the large batch of London loans when they were not going to be filled. There is a certain capacity that will easily fill. The new loan is above that. Exactly. I bet a lot of the recent investors have never seen an 'abundant' SM like this. After weeks of fighting bots for scraps, this is quite a refreshing change.
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Post by ablender on Oct 24, 2016 9:07:13 GMT
It's remarkable how many brand new forum accounts have been created this weekend by "heavy investors" in Saving Stream to complain about this loan and to say they're pulling out of Saving Stream as a result. I'd never have thought big hitters could be so emotional and impulsive... I would like to take this quote as the starting point. As I see it, there can be two main reasons for the current swell in SM, i) people want to get out due to discontent as expounded in this thread above, ii) people need to sell because they have over under-estimated how much they will get from this prefund. Isn't this creating a situation where people are loosing out on interest while potentially putting off buyers? I am aware of the queues and no one want to be the one of loosing their place, but as I see it, at least based on what I observed in the past, this glut will not last so why loosing out on interest unless one is very tight for money (over prefunding or necessities of life). This makes me wonder if the people who said that they will pull out are actually doing this (pull out vs need for funding pbl143) and if so whether they are acting in a rational way. Thinking about it, there can be another possibility, as arbster pointed out, there have been a "remarkable" amount of new members. Possibly they do not have the past experience of the waves created in the SM of this stream. This can frighten people. As with rivers, if there is a fork, make sure you take the correct turn. The wrong one may lead to a waterfall. Thanks mikes1531 - Corrected
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Post by ianj on Oct 24, 2016 10:38:01 GMT
It's remarkable how many brand new forum accounts have been created this weekend by "heavy investors" in Saving Stream to complain about this loan and to say they're pulling out of Saving Stream as a result. I'd never have thought big hitters could be so emotional and impulsive... Perhaps this is due to the average peruser of these pages not having been initiated into the select circle of those gifted with paranormal interlineal message deciphering capabilities *, those who have chosen, until now, to remain aloof from the 'hoi polloi'. Now, having identified a looming Armageddon, they see fit to pass warning of the impending doom and so ease the ignorance of the masses. Or..... ...... they're mere mortals informing us how astute they really are, and, thus, we're not! Or...... ...... they really are (comparatively) new to SS and aren't aware that nothing that occurred or was commented on in the past 48 hrs hasn't happened or been complained about in the past. When this is all repeated sometime down the line, some will, no doubt, be 'tut-tutting' in impatience and / or attempting (and usually failing) to allay needless concerns of the next wave of newbie investors. Or..... ...... those of us who have remained calm, watched TV or contemplated the mystery of the moon have simply been fooling ourselves all this time, and needed to be told so! * Sincere apologies to anyone with genuine powers and the appropriate, related certification. Please feel free to insert a wherever considered appropriate.
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Post by ablender on Oct 24, 2016 10:42:36 GMT
. . . Now, having identified a looming Armageddon, they see fit to pass warning of the impending doom . . . Are you talking about meerkats?
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Post by ianj on Oct 24, 2016 11:01:21 GMT
. . . Now, having identified a looming Armageddon, they see fit to pass warning of the impending doom . . . Are you talking about meerkats? Such flippancy, and only midday! Meerkat actions (but not the irritating marketing variety, naturally) are of course driven by survival based instincts, so perhaps not that far off the mark after all.
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