cooling_dude
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Post by cooling_dude on Nov 21, 2016 11:30:34 GMT
LIVE LOAN
Loan Amount | : | £ | 1,715,000
| Security Value | : | £ | 2,450,000
| SS Indicated LTV | : |
| 70% | 90 Day Market Valuation | : | £ | 2,100,000
| LTV Based on 90 day Market Valuation | : |
| 82% | Term | : |
| 183 days | % PA
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| 12% |
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elliotn
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Post by elliotn on Nov 21, 2016 12:23:09 GMT
I proffer kicking off the very big house in the country with most useful post from the pipeline: p2pindependentforum.com/post/152594MT investors pls x-ref your exposure to property developing hoteliers in Prestbury .
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fp
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Post by fp on Nov 21, 2016 12:56:40 GMT
I proffer kicking off the very big house in the country with most useful post from the pipeline: p2pindependentforum.com/post/152594MT investors pls x-ref your exposure to property developing hoteliers in Prestbury . This has links to another loan, but the loan is not on MT, its on Rebs IIRC, *EDIT* our buyer is 3rd party guarantor on a loan to a related person on Rebs
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cooling_dude
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Post by cooling_dude on Nov 21, 2016 13:08:22 GMT
I proffer kicking off the very big house in the country with most useful post from the pipeline: p2pindependentforum.com/post/152594MT investors pls x-ref your exposure to property developing hoteliers in Prestbury . This has links to another loan, but the loan is not on MT, its on Rebs IIRC, *EDIT* our buyer is 3rd party guarantor on a loan to a related person on Rebs And no link to the Prestbury loan @ MT (despite the similarities). A quick observation about this loan... SS state that our borrower has to move quickly in order to purchase this property and stop other interested parties 'gazumping' him - they further note that the property had been on the market for a while but since the price drop the interest has increased. However, the property has been on the market since Feb 2013 for £2,650,000 and was reduced to £2,450,000 on Feb 2015, which means this property has been unsold for 21 months after the price reduction. Taking this into consideration, it seems strange that our borrower has to now move quickly to purchase the property...
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SteveT
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Post by SteveT on Nov 21, 2016 14:30:23 GMT
To be fair, the reduction in sale price was accompanied by ' Offers in excess of...', so it's quite possible that the vendor's agent just adopted a new strategy in view of still achieving over and above £2,450,000. Furthermore, we do not know the actual agreed purchase price because, assuming Saving Stream are retaining the interest content upfront, it will be lower than the listed £2,450,000. That said - nice area as it may be, the VR price is v.high in comparison with similar, 5/6 bedroom, neighbouring properties. Which is supported by the above statement that the purchase price, after 5 years is quite obviously lower than the loan amount of £2,450,00 due to the retained interest, which makes a mockery of the VR, and it could quite easily be alleged that the valuation has been adjusted to suit the purpose of the loan. Additionally, seemingly, there will be little or no personal commitment towards the purchase from the borrower, so investors might want to ask themselves if they still want to be tied into an investment in 6+ months time whilst an instructed selling agent attempts to achieve a sale price that has struggled to be achieved in 5 years on a buoyant market, if the borrower walks away and the loan falls into a distressed state. I know what my answer is. Sorry but I don't understand your logic. Page 4 of the VR states that the valuer has been informed that the agreed purchase price is £2.45m and has valued the house at this price. Against this figure, SS are proposing to lend 70% or £1.715m, advancing something like £1.55m to the borrower and retaining the rest to cover 6 months' interest (at ballpark 1.5% pm). So presumably the borrower is having to fund roughly £900k (plus the stamp duty and other purchase costs) from his own resources.
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Post by fp on Nov 21, 2016 18:05:36 GMT
This has links to another loan, but the loan is not on MT, its on Rebs IIRC, *EDIT* our buyer is 3rd party guarantor on a loan to a related person on Rebs fp , thank you for sharing this good piece of DD, very helpful no doubt to parties beyond SS so I'll bring this to the attention of rebsrep to allow them to x-ref to their own loan book and to assess any potential impact to our fellow investors there.I'll shortly zero my pre-fund based on your contribution fp and also on cooling_dude 's 90 day market value valuation (82% LTV), citing concern for the former, the 'tightness' of the LTV and the duration of the loan term. I believe that this perfectly illustrates the significance of being part of the P2P Independent Forum; here by sharing what we know with each other we are without any doubt helping everyone else to make safer, more considered investment choices. Gentlemen my thanks and best regards. I'm only sharing info passed on to me from somebody else, I wouldn't be too worried about the linked loan, it isn't a big loan, and looks like its more likely to be a favour for a family member by standing as a guarantor..... one of those P-G's which aren't really worth the paper they are written on. It hasn't put me off.
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Post by ohjames on Nov 22, 2016 20:45:38 GMT
PIPELINE LOAN - Due To Go Live 22/11/16 (Tuesday)
Loan Amount | : | £ | 1,715,000
| Security Value | : | £ | 2,450,000
| SS Indicated LTV | : |
| 70% | 90 Day Market Valuation | : | £ | 2,100,000
| LTV Based on 90 day Market Valuation | : |
| 82% | Term | : |
| 183 days | % PA
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| 12% |
Anybody get an update on when this is going live. I've prefunded & waiting...
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cooling_dude
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Post by cooling_dude on Nov 22, 2016 20:49:38 GMT
PIPELINE LOAN - Due To Go Live 22/11/16 (Tuesday)
Loan Amount | : | £ | 1,715,000
| Security Value | : | £ | 2,450,000
| SS Indicated LTV | : |
| 70% | 90 Day Market Valuation | : | £ | 2,100,000
| LTV Based on 90 day Market Valuation | : |
| 82% | Term | : |
| 183 days | % PA
| : |
| 12% |
Anybody get an update on when this is going live. I've prefunded & waiting... GO-LIVE e-mail was sent yesterday, stating that this loan was due to go live today (along with the new DFL004, which has gone live), but no sign of it yet... still 3hrs of the day to go though Recently, the expected live date has been very hit and miss. I expect this won't be going live until tomorrow.
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guff
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Post by guff on Nov 22, 2016 21:03:42 GMT
SS - Sometime Soon.
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greatmarko
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Post by greatmarko on Nov 23, 2016 0:07:36 GMT
...I expect this won't be going live until tomorrow. Hope so, as it didn't go live today (well, yesterday now!) as expected
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Post by geraldine1210 on Nov 23, 2016 8:02:17 GMT
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Post by guff on Nov 23, 2016 10:30:07 GMT
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