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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 25, 2016 19:09:26 GMT
Grateful that AC put the trip advisor link in and were upfront about the 'interesting comments' (although to be fair, had they not they would probably have suffered some pain on here, so best to head off at the pass).
I am seriously struggling though to come up with the remotest of reasons why I would lend on this for 7.25%. Based on some of the pictures on trip advisor, and comments, it strikes me the place could be at risk of being shutdown, possibly at close to no notice with no time being given to do remedials. (Electrical socket half hanging off the wall in one picture).
Under 'competition', it states that their is Premier Inn and Park Inn within 1m, but they are not in the same market (no s*** Jose). However, it doesn't mention that their is a travelodge at 2.4m away. Now, possible this is too far to be considered competition. However, the pricing (based on a quick selection of a couple of dates) is really not at all far off the mid week rates for our 'hostel'. About £5-£6 more.
Still, I guess its all in the occupancy rate data.
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Post by lynnanthony on Nov 25, 2016 20:58:18 GMT
Bargepole job. (IMHO).
In a more general sense, am I alone in being a bit wary of lending to sons & daughters to buy out their parents?
Also, am I alone in being concerned about cultural differences in views about finance and borrowing?
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 25, 2016 21:46:28 GMT
I don't know about your last point. I'm not in genearal concerned about loans to offspring to buy out parents, though it does lead me to be a bit more 'enquiring'. But in this particular case I have serious questions about the wisdom of the son (and borrower) who has the stated qualifications that he does (ok, we don't know whether that is from Oxbridge or Trump University) running the business as he is now; and further more now taking on this debt to buy his father/parents out from a flea pit (Note: as stated by one TripAdvisor commentor, not my personal opinion, nor a statement of fact) ostensibly to help with their ability to exit the country. regardless of the deposit being 'gifted' to the borrower, I have serious doubts as to whether the borrower is doing this on pure business grounds or whether there are other factors involved. If I have a doubt as to whether the borrrower has a business head fully screwed on independently of other factors, then that is a concern. IN this case I feel like I'd rather like to take him to one side and say, "hoy, you know that 1st class degree you have in xxxxxxx, maybe you want to consider using to get employment that will a) likely provide a higher income and b) won't saddle you with debt".
But what do I know.
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Post by trevor on Nov 25, 2016 22:14:40 GMT
I'm struggling to work out how he will pay the interest and keep the business going. 7.5%, you're having a laugh. Bargepole for me.
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Post by bonfemme on Nov 26, 2016 7:23:32 GMT
I'm struggling to work out how he will pay the interest and keep the business going. 7.5%, you're having a laugh. Bargepole for me. Not even 7.5% .... it's 7.25%. But you're right about having a laugh, it's a joke.
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Post by agent69 on Nov 26, 2016 8:40:58 GMT
The borrower is 22 years old and has a degree in software engineering.
Not the ideal person to be running a hovel.
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Post by warn on Nov 26, 2016 9:20:48 GMT
The borrower is 22 years old and has a degree in software engineering. Not the ideal person to be running a hovel. I reckon that given a decent cup of java, he could cobol something together, if you c what I mean. It's pretty basic.
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Post by JamesFrance on Nov 26, 2016 9:41:53 GMT
I wonder what the borrower is paying. There are so many low interest loans available on the platform which indicates that they are not attractive to lenders at the offered rate. Are the few loans now offering over 10% much higher risk than they were a year ago?
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 26, 2016 10:00:49 GMT
The borrower is 22 years old and has a degree in software engineering. Not the ideal person to be running a hovel. I reckon that given a decent cup of java, he could cobol something together, if you c what I mean. It's pretty basic. Perhpas he can Ada extra dimension, and with a touch of better fortran turn it into a real perl of a place.
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Post by shimself on Nov 26, 2016 10:22:53 GMT
I reckon that given a decent cup of java, he could cobol something together, if you c what I mean. It's pretty basic. Perhpas he can Ada extra dimension, and with a touch of better fortran turn it into a real perl of a place. I object. This thread is become disoriented
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Post by chielamangus on Nov 26, 2016 10:27:30 GMT
Bargepole job. (IMHO). In a more general sense, am I alone in being a bit wary of lending to sons & daughters to buy out their parents? Also, am I alone in being concerned about cultural differences in views about finance and borrowing? Loans to offspring? Just a bit wary when the parent is hopping the country and the security is lousy (sic) Cultural differences? I am bemused by the fact that interest is a dirty, indeed forbidden, word in the Islamic faith, yet plenty of adherents are happy to pay or profit from it. But then hypocrisy is common to all religions. I am always wary of borrowers who have a bolt hole abroad, wherever it is. But the real issue is whether the business is one I would want to support - and in view of the TA reviews there is no way I would want to encourage anyone to continue with this business. It needs to be sold to an outsider who understands the industry and the standards that customers expect. But then such a person would no doubt not be willing to pay the "price" the son is apparently willing to pay with the help of undiscerning AC investors. I refuse to invest in Red**** for a similar reason - why would I want to encourage nuisance telephone calls? I actually had one from them yesterday.
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Post by agent69 on Nov 26, 2016 10:47:49 GMT
The borrower is 22 years old and has a degree in software engineering. Not the ideal person to be running a hovel. I reckon that given a decent cup of java, he could cobol something together, if you c what I mean. It's pretty basic. Sounds like the sort of place Peter Rachman would have been proud of. If I'm ever in the area think I'll be trying the Premier Inn down the road.
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