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Post by blender on Nov 10, 2014 14:29:52 GMT
Yes, I liked the theatre company and have bought a chunk of it to keep for some time - assuming they accept the loan.
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Post by adrianc on Nov 10, 2014 17:25:06 GMT
Down to just a couple of today's not been processed - although I've still got one from the 6th showing as "processing". What's that about?
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Post by longjohn on Nov 10, 2014 17:27:25 GMT
I'm in 8664. I wondered if their name was inspired by the company depicted in 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit' and all the Loony Tunes cartoons. A reminder of a few of the best ProductsOn the same theme I'm in 8635 too. John
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Post by davee39 on Nov 10, 2014 18:03:32 GMT
Down to just a couple of today's not been processed - although I've still got one from the 6th showing as "processing". What's that about? In FC's world of Orwellian Doublespeak Processing Means 'not processing'. It means the Direct Debit has failed and FC will have another go at collecting the money before the loan becomes late. I tend to believe this means the borrower has insufficient funds at the time the DD is requested and dump all loans (including first repayments) when this occurs and later comes good.
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Post by yorkshireman on Nov 10, 2014 19:20:06 GMT
Down to just a couple of today's not been processed - although I've still got one from the 6th showing as "processing". What's that about? In FC's world of Orwellian Doublespeak Processing Means 'not processing'. It means the Direct Debit has failed and FC will have another go at collecting the money before the loan becomes late. I tend to believe this means the borrower has insufficient funds at the time the DD is requested and dump all loans (including first repayments) when this occurs and later comes good. Never mind 1984, FC is more like Animal Farm. All animals are equal but some (borrowers) are more equal than others (lenders)
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Post by blender on Nov 10, 2014 22:22:28 GMT
I used to think that, Yorkshireman, but that was back in 2013 when rates were so poor and the few borrowers were getting the benefit of silly rates pushed down by Autobidders. I remember when a B loan part at 9% was a prize worth fighting for, and the new C- at 11.5% was gone in a flash with lots of complaints from those who missed out. This year rates have been consistently good, and we get A+ in the 10%s plus 1% cash back, and As in the 11%s (though you have to pick them carefully). So the balance has definitely shifted towards the lenders. I think you are right in that FC will see the Borrowers as its customers and as individuals, and the lenders just as a source of funds. FC's income comes from the borrowers through the fees for loans. Borrowers, the creators of the lending opportunity, are always going to be seen as more equal than lenders from FC's position. That's how Pig to Pig lending works. (Should anyone listen to a pig with four good legs but who prefers to stand on two?)
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Post by adrianc on Nov 10, 2014 23:05:16 GMT
I think you are right in that FC will see the Borrowers as its customers and as individuals, and the lenders just as a source of funds. FC's income comes from the borrowers through the fees for loans. Borrowers, the creators of the lending opportunity, are always going to be seen as more equal than lenders from FC's position. With the sweet innocence of unsullied youth, I'm less cynical. Both borrowers and lenders are FC's customers, and they need both equally. Without new money coming in, borrowers won't get any rates worth drawing down. Without decent loans, lenders won't invest money. An oversupply of either (=undersupply of the other, of course) will cause FC problems. Good rates (for lenders) at the moment means undersupply of money, which is why FC's TV ad touting for lenders was drifting through from the other room earlier... (and, yes, that "processing" part has the payment (#3, which takes a potshot at that theory) shown as "retry"...)
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Nov 11, 2014 15:07:04 GMT
The website has been not much better this PM - the ends of both the 14:26 and 14:36 auctions** were pretty shambolic, with 502 errors and timeouts all over the place .. bidding (when it worked at all) was averaging 2.5 seconds a bid (if you play nice and wait for the ack before you send the next one). I had thought it was getting a bit better, but either they've broken something new, or else the ramped up number of auctions has overwhelmed their Atari again. 8<.
** the 14:46 one way fine, on account of early closing some time ago. 8>.
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Post by oldgrumpy on Nov 11, 2014 15:16:53 GMT
Not too bad this afternoon. Don't record times so can't compare individual loan auction notes - numbers helps more.
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Post by min on Nov 11, 2014 15:37:33 GMT
I'm not getting 'recent loan comments'. Times out (tells me there is a problem and to refresh the page).
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Post by oldgrumpy on Nov 11, 2014 15:41:54 GMT
That's another of Funding Circles improvements. have you noticed whenever sites work (even) less well than before, it's always the result of an improved website? When I last saw the comments this mornng, nothing had been posted since last Thursday.
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Nov 11, 2014 15:53:04 GMT
Not too bad this afternoon. Don't record times so can't compare individual loan auction notes - numbers helps more. 8665 was 14:26 and 8660 was 14:36, iirc. Was not a COMPLETE catastrophe, just pretty bad.
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Post by oldgrumpy on Nov 11, 2014 16:03:48 GMT
Oh yes....8660 ....no thanks. 8665 I got distracted and missed the last few minutes - outbid I'm onto forensics 8697 now - fascinating business - not quite sure of the economics, but I'll have a bit. Got to be better than some of the old <MBR I'm selling off from last year. If they accept at what might be 10.5%/10.6% ...top end should be around 12%
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Post by davee39 on Nov 11, 2014 16:21:08 GMT
From about 8mins to go 8860 was a nightmare to place manual bids. Blue button stayed protected for upwards of 15 secs, I refreshed the page to find bid had not been accepted. Possibly 1 in 3 bid attempts worked. This was £200k and a high rate A+ so bidding was at hyperspeed.
The downside of the current rates appears to be far fewer high value, high rate loans being accepted. When they are accepted the secondary market gets flooded so 'flipping' cash is tied up more than usual, restricting money available for the next loan.
Just to complete the picture of incompetence, repayments for the 10th went through, all those for the 11th are processing so either the run has broken, or, more likely, the glitches have stopped the dd's being collected.
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Post by blender on Nov 11, 2014 17:03:44 GMT
Oh yes....8660 ....no thanks. 8665 I got distracted and missed the last few minutes - outbid I'm onto forensics 8697 now - fascinating business - not quite sure of the economics, but I'll have a bit. Got to be better than some of the old <MBR I'm selling off from last year. If they accept at what might be 10.5%/10.6% ...top end should be around 12% You may need forensics to find the fixed assets, grumpy, because they are all intangible. OK for flipping.
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