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Post by gusgorilla on Dec 9, 2016 1:40:27 GMT
Hundreds of 1 cent loans, which cannot be bought by any means, make it very hard to use the primary market. There are lots of other tiny loans too. toms viventor, here are two ideas for solving these problems: 1. If a loan is too small to be invested in, do not list it. There is no point us seeing these ghost loans. 2. Add a minimum investment amount setting to the autoinvestor. Some people would be happy to set this to zero (no minimum). This will cause all the tiny loans to be bought, leaving the primary market neat, tidy and easy to use.
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Post by buttchopf23 on Dec 9, 2016 7:22:52 GMT
Good point, I don't get it why the 1ct loans are still there.
To 2) The autoinvest does not invest less then 10 euro, this is a default setting.
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Post by gusgorilla on Dec 10, 2016 16:27:18 GMT
Putting on my computer geek hat, it is most likely that the 1 cent loans are created by the error of choosing to represent the money in the software using a real/continuous/floating point data type. This is not intended to represent discrete numbers, like money, as this causes problems with comparing numbers for equality and "rounding errors" in computations. toms viventor , during your system rewrite, instruct your software engineers to use a currency or fixed point data type for the money. If the language used does not support this data type directly just use a large integer type and keep all the money in cents. You should then convert from euros and cents to cents during user input, and from cents to euros and cents during display. This will save you a lot of pain and bugs later.
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Post by wiseclerk on Dec 10, 2016 20:40:45 GMT
gusgorilla This is not how it should be done, as you need fractions of cents to accumulate interests that amount to less than one cent. Typcially I would expect a p2p lending technology to calulate with several decimal places
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Post by bracknellboy on Dec 10, 2016 22:15:17 GMT
gusgorilla This is not how it should be done, as you need fractions of cents to accumulate interests that amount to less than one cent. Typcially I would expect a p2p lending technology to calulate with several decimal places Are you chris in disguise ? :-) Is 20 / 40 dp's enough ?
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Post by gusgorilla on Dec 11, 2016 12:13:09 GMT
gusgorilla This is not how it should be done, as you need fractions of cents to accumulate interests that amount to less than one cent. Typcially I would expect a p2p lending technology to calulate with several decimal places Yes I was oversimplifying. A loan's accumulated interested must be floating point, but the outstanding loan capital and loan repayments are best kept fixed point.
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Post by kilozulu on Dec 11, 2016 12:48:21 GMT
Bondora used to have/still has? the fixed point approach, resulting in a grossly unfair distribution of small repayments to investors each having small loan pieces, like 5 euros, so many here have seen fixed point in action. Bad experience. On 5 euro loan piece your capital repayment will always have half-cents, and Bondora resolved it by giving one lender a cent and 2nd one zilch. If you have a thousand loan pieces, then loosing half a cent on each every month accumulates quickly.
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Post by kulerucket on Jan 4, 2017 7:44:46 GMT
I'm really surprised that Viventor haven't bothered to fix this. It's a quite a glaring bug and very visible to anyone using the platform. It doesn't really inspire much confidence.
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Post by blahetal on Jan 4, 2017 9:32:31 GMT
Agreed, I hope they will fix it in the next release but since I use AI mostly I do not care much
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Post by ivom on Jan 4, 2017 12:43:20 GMT
Just noticed some new 12% loans form a seemingly new company.
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Post by kulerucket on Jan 26, 2017 19:26:40 GMT
I have noticed one benefit of these phantom loans. Assuming that all loans leave a trace 0.01 that cannot bought, you can see how many loans are added each day.
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Post by m203 on Jan 28, 2017 13:18:16 GMT
I hope the number of loans pick up because soon all my current ones have been payed back and autoinvest hasnt picked up any new loans.
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Post by kulerucket on Jan 28, 2017 13:50:13 GMT
I know, if it continues then I'm not planning to keep my money sitting idle for long..
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