cooling_dude
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Post by cooling_dude on Jan 24, 2017 13:09:21 GMT
LIVE LOAN
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| -------------- | Loan Amount | : | £ | 182,991
| Security Value | : | £ | 300,000
| SS Indicated LTV | : |
| 61% | 90 Day Market Valuation | : | £ | 250,000
| LTV Based on 90 day Market Valuation | : |
| 73%
| Term | : |
| 365 days | % PA
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| 8% |
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stokeloans
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Post by stokeloans on Jan 24, 2017 13:18:43 GMT
8% !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No thanks
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GeorgeT
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Post by GeorgeT on Jan 24, 2017 13:19:45 GMT
8%. Are they having a laugh or is it a new TV game show idea How Low Can We Go.
Other peer to peer lenders are available that offer higher rate of interest. When I read the comments on this forum sometimes with people moaning about this and that the communications I come to the conclusion that SS investors are masochists or else why do they invest with saving stream when there are other alternatives available which pay the same or higher rates of interest and give a better customer service
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toffeeboy
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Post by toffeeboy on Jan 24, 2017 13:27:18 GMT
It will definitely be interesting to see how many lenders go for this one.
They are an established business so can't understand why they are having to borrow at these kind of rates it isn't to buy the asset against which the loan is secured.
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p2p2p
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Post by p2p2p on Jan 24, 2017 13:28:57 GMT
Could we have more notice of loans. Its unreasonable to have auto-bid get you tranches of poor deals like this just because you didn't visit this forum or click the pipeline tab every day.
A loan should be in the pipeline for a couple of weeks to allow proper pre-assessment.
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Post by Jeepers on Jan 24, 2017 13:39:56 GMT
Could we have more notice of loans. Its unreasonable to have auto-bid get you tranches of poor deals like this just because you didn't visit this forum or click the pipeline tab every day. A loan should be in the pipeline for a couple of weeks to allow proper pre-assessment. A couple of weeks? Clearly you don't understand how bridging finance works.
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Post by toffeeboy on Jan 24, 2017 13:40:53 GMT
Could we have more notice of loans. Its unreasonable to have auto-bid get you tranches of poor deals like this just because you didn't visit this forum or click the pipeline tab every day. A loan should be in the pipeline for a couple of weeks to allow proper pre-assessment. Do agree with there JohnB and this has obviously been around at least two months as the valuation is dated 24 November 2016 so more than a days notice should have been possible. Although on the otherhand SS can't announce the loans publicly too soon in case another lending firm comes in and undercuts them having seen the borrower was looking for a loan on the SS pipeline.
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toffeeboy
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Post by toffeeboy on Jan 24, 2017 13:41:59 GMT
Could we have more notice of loans. Its unreasonable to have auto-bid get you tranches of poor deals like this just because you didn't visit this forum or click the pipeline tab every day. A loan should be in the pipeline for a couple of weeks to allow proper pre-assessment. A couple of weeks? Clearly you don't understand how bridging finance works. The valuation is dated 24 November 2016 so it has been around for longer than your usual bridging loans.
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p2p2p
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Post by p2p2p on Jan 24, 2017 13:51:01 GMT
Given the fast finger nature of the secondary market, auto-bid is the best way to get considered holdings, but with the only control being sum invested, you can get very different outcomes. If auto-bid had LTV and rate minima options, I'd have more confidence in it.
It will be interesting to see if the SM has a growing or declining allocation of this once autobid completes.
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Post by dovap on Jan 24, 2017 14:08:02 GMT
nice to see farmers seeking the very reasonable rates SS charge rather than heading to some of charlatans you read about operating in this sector.
The good thing about the 8% rate is there's no need to bother finding the holes in the offer.
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cooling_dude
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Post by cooling_dude on Jan 24, 2017 14:09:56 GMT
nice to see farmers seeking the very reasonable rates SS charge rather than heading to some of charlatans you read about operating in this sector. The good thing about the 8% rate is there's no need to bother finding the holes in the offer. And what rate do you think the farmer is being charged his end?
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Post by dovap on Jan 24, 2017 14:12:33 GMT
nice to see farmers seeking the very reasonable rates SS charge rather than heading to some of charlatans you read about operating in this sector. The good thing about the 8% rate is there's no need to bother finding the holes in the offer. And what rate do you think the farmer is being charged his end? summat highly competitive to reflect the risk innit
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Post by am on Jan 24, 2017 14:18:15 GMT
Is the total area of land 60 acres or 53 acres (10+26+17)? At the latter extent and a price per acre of £5000, the LTV is 69%.
The land is at around 600 feet above sea level (possibly a little higher, depending on exactly where it is). Looking at Google Maps it looks likely to be decent enough grazing land, so £5,000 per acre is not obviously wrong.
I'm also not impressed by the VR discussing residential market trends, rather than agricultural land price trends. So I was inspired to look up the surveyors. I don't see why the valuation has been performed by an Essex based practice with no obvious agricultural expertise. So I'm inspired to do my own comparison.
I think one of the comparables should be Meldingscale. This is about the same altitude. I'd say that grazing at Meldingscale is generally poorer, but for purposes of comparison one would have to identify the particular plots involved.
The land at Cow Ark looks like unimproved grazing, if this can be evaluated from Google's aerial imagery.
I don't have a positive identification of Cherry Tree Farm (there's a Cherry Tree House on the map), but this is less exposed land at lower altitude (330-400 feet a.s.l) in Hodderdale.
Someone with a Land Registry subscription may be able to identify the individual fields with some degree of certainty, and offer a better analysis, but I see no obvious errors.
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Post by excalibur on Jan 24, 2017 14:18:56 GMT
8% seems rather low when you can get 13%+ elsewhere on Picasso paintings and alike.
I'd also be concerned about the liquidity in take up of this on the Secondary Market beyond those who click too fast to see it's not 12%.
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Post by r1200gs on Jan 24, 2017 14:48:26 GMT
8% seems rather low when you can get 13%+ elsewhere on Picasso paintings and alike. I'd also be concerned about the liquidity in take up of this on the Secondary Market beyond those who click too fast to see it's not 12%. Exactly, yet those 13 % plus loans sit stewing for days waiting for funding while this 8% interest and 73% LTV loan will likely be oversubscribed.
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