djpix99
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Uown
Aug 18, 2017 7:06:22 GMT
Post by djpix99 on Aug 18, 2017 7:06:22 GMT
Bonus shares were credited to my Uown account within 4 hours, nice work uown.
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kaya
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Post by kaya on Aug 18, 2017 9:00:07 GMT
It is tempting, but I don't think I can risk any more here. The property being promoted here is creeping up slowly (hopefully not with rising damp), but there really needs to be a longer-term strategy. The highest value property is simply never going to get funded at this rate, nor the other one. I would like a cut-off date for 'failed to fund' and return of funds. Another marketing possibility would be to abandon, for now at least, one of the other properties, with an incentive (like this one) to keep funds on the platform and reinvest funds, to get at least one of them over the line. I would go for that. Another good move would be to revamp the website by getting rid of the plonker talk ( your word uown). Investors are not fools, and like to see displayed, more than anything, professionalism.
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littonowl
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Post by littonowl on Aug 18, 2017 9:44:46 GMT
After observing with interest the slow uptake of the first 24 hours of the 36 hour flash sale promotion, my big fear with Uown is whether the platform has a viable, sustainable business. I presume the intention of this promotion was to complete the funding of their first property (hence the targetting of just E*** G*****), but so far it seems to have taken them from around 64% to just 72%. The 2 other properties that have also been on the site for months and have managed just 29% and 32% ! I'm starting to doubt these will ever fill and then my mind turns to wondering what will happen if they don't? AIUI, the 3 properties are all currently owned and managed by 'a strategic partner' of Uown's (P******e P******?), so they are not being advertised for sale anywhere else. What I would like to know is what are the Strategic partner's intentions if they don't fill? Are they happy for the current relationship to continue (managing the partially owned properties on Uown's behalf, and paying out proportionate monthly rents) or will they eventually say 'enough's enough' and pull the plug ? Do they have a cut-off point or time? And if they do, what happens to our invested cash? I seem to remember Uown saying somewhere on these boards it will simply be returned to Uown investors as cash? This presumes of course that whoever is currently holding the cash (Uown or the strategic partner?) still has it available to pay back? Strikes me that I'm probably not alone in thinking along such lines, which might explain the poor uptake of this latest offer from current investors. Seems to me, what Uown really need is new investors to give some traction and get the properties closer to completing. IMHO the new customer promotion earlier this month didn't ask investors to commit enough (wasn't it £10 for £20 invested or something?) and a more significant referral scheme, similar to ones used in the past by other crowd/P2P platforms (£50 each to referrer & referee for £1K invested), would have had a more significant impact on the properties and potentially be less costly than the 25% deal (10% on £1k v a straight 25% on any amount?). Property Partner have used such a promotion in the past to great success, and Brickowner, a platform arguably at a similar stage in development to Uown, with just 4 offerings too, are currently using it and completing their fund raises successfully as a result. In the case of E***, they would need approximately 50 referrals at £1K to get this over the line at a promotional cost of £5K. I don't know if I'm alone in thinking like this, but some answers on the above from uown would certainly put my mind at ease somewhat and might even make me at least consider adding to my current investment, but until I do get some definitive answers to the above I'm unlikely to do so, however tempting the offer.
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snowmobile
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Post by snowmobile on Aug 18, 2017 9:44:57 GMT
I'm thinking similar. Without a clear exit strategy I'm not willing to put any more in at the moment. The investments on Property Partner and Brickowner have a clearly defined term at the outset.
Maybe the 40% carrot dangled originally would have been enough to tempt me. However if and when the secondary market opens it is unlikely to be sufficiently liquid to enable full value to be achieved.
I recently made my first withdrawal of income and the confirmation page was littered with careless spelling mistakes. Such basic errors do not convey professionalism.
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marka
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Uown
Aug 18, 2017 10:06:41 GMT
Post by marka on Aug 18, 2017 10:06:41 GMT
The current promotion has tempted me to sign up and throw £1000 in there - just need to hope the funds clear in time before the promo ends. There could easily be another 10-20 people like me that have been tempted in over the last 24 hours, which could push funding on this property > 90%, and then being that close other current members may be prepared to chuck a little more at it to get it over the line.
I'm sure once one property is "live", then that will give more confidence to invest in others.
OK - I'll take my rose-tinteds off for now and wait to see where things stand next week !
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marka
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Uown
Aug 18, 2017 10:13:28 GMT
Post by marka on Aug 18, 2017 10:13:28 GMT
... and within minutes of me writing that my funds cleared, so I'm now in!
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ben
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Uown
Aug 19, 2017 13:11:46 GMT
Post by ben on Aug 19, 2017 13:11:46 GMT
Did not exactly make great progress up about 10% to 80, so less the 15,000 invested during the promotion.
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marka
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Post by marka on Sept 6, 2017 11:14:01 GMT
A couple of moans uown .... Having had a number of irrelevant spam emails since joining (as I have already joined there's no point trying to convince me to do so again) I'm surprised I didn't get one to tell me that income for last month had been paid. Having dipped my toe in the water with a grand half way through last month I now have the magnificent sum of about 3 quid cash in my account. Ideally I would like reinvest this, and all future months' income, but the website doesn't appear to allow me to invest less than £20. Regardless of the negligible amount involved it goes against the grain for me to leave cash sitting there uninvested - at this rate for another 3 months until I have enough income to meet the £20 minimum - so I am minded to withdraw it and will keep doing the same every month, as I am not prepared to add more cash to it (to meet the minimum) until such time as the site has proved itself worthy of real longer term investment. I can appreciate that the £20 minimum is perfectly reasonable for investing new cash, but surely it should not be applied to re-investment.
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Steerpike
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Uown
Sept 6, 2017 11:38:27 GMT
Post by Steerpike on Sept 6, 2017 11:38:27 GMT
I received an email on 5th September pointing out that 5th is when rental income is paid.
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kaya
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Uown
Sept 6, 2017 11:49:28 GMT
Post by kaya on Sept 6, 2017 11:49:28 GMT
You think you've got it bad now marka? Just wait until you have £17 lying there like I have. Its unbearable!
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ilmoro
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Uown
Sept 6, 2017 12:39:43 GMT
Post by ilmoro on Sept 6, 2017 12:39:43 GMT
Its all a cunning plan by uown . Dont allow people to reinvest small sums of interest, then run a bonus share promotion so people are encouraged to top up their account to at least £20 to invest to get the bonus shares. Genius. I also get emails telling me its interest payment day. There was also an important one about certifying your investor type to comply with FCA regs.
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marka
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Uown
Sept 6, 2017 13:25:10 GMT
Post by marka on Sept 6, 2017 13:25:10 GMT
Just been back and double checked. I got a flurry of emails the day I signed up and the day after about my initial deposit, purchase and bonus shares, then a welcome email 11 days after that. I got the select your investor type one on 29/8 and since then two generic spammy ones encouraging me to sign up and the one about E*** Gardens being 90% funded. Nothing about rental income. I can't see anywhere on the site to set mail preferences, so it seems I've just been missed out TBH now I know (or think) that the 5th of the month is income day I can live without the notification. Its the inability to reinvest that really irks me - its not as though they are imposing the minimum because of bank charges which is perfectly reasonable for depositing new cash to invest.
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kaya
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Uown
Sept 6, 2017 16:07:06 GMT
Post by kaya on Sept 6, 2017 16:07:06 GMT
Its just awful isn't it, that lonely £3 just sitting there doing absolutely nothing!
Tbh I really don't think it unreasonable to have a minimum share price of £10 or £20.
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Uown
Sept 21, 2017 18:43:09 GMT
Post by valuehunter on Sept 21, 2017 18:43:09 GMT
congratulations uown funding their first property, the first of many i'm sure!
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kaya
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Post by kaya on Sept 22, 2017 9:10:51 GMT
Hmm, I'm not so sure. Yes well done uown on reaching that first milestone, but it will probably require more generous incentives to get the next property there. How well the secondary market functions, including of course liquidity, remains unknown. I think the potential is there overall, but they are going to need a big push to bring new investors on board (and the website plonker talk really does put some people off). With property moose seemingly in decline (just a temporary remission perhaps?) there is perhaps some scope for poaching there - that's if anyone can actually manage to get there cash back out of there.
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