sl75
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Post by sl75 on Sept 25, 2018 10:33:37 GMT
Surely Lendy would use LW funds towards new tranches. ... and the £166k investment on this loan referred to was indeed towards the new tranche (tranche 33).
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withnell
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Post by withnell on Sept 25, 2018 11:49:50 GMT
Hopefully should lead to a greater liquidity of the prior tranches as the risk of future underfunding is reducing
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Post by df on Sept 25, 2018 13:06:22 GMT
Surely Lendy would use LW funds towards new tranches. They get the interest from funds languishing on the SM. You think so but then I can't think an individual investor would stick 166k in this loan. Not unless they had a screw loose. Wouldn't surprise me, different individuals have different pocket depths. For some 166k could have the same proportion of their budget as £166 for others.
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Post by invester on Oct 17, 2018 16:59:14 GMT
Loan suspended. The money has run out.
It seems that this will be an even bigger mess than Wolverhampton to sort out. At least with that there is the prospect of selling all the flats individually if we have to.
The last set of pictures here were basically a few glorified huts in a field, that made Centre Parcs look like a 7-star resort.
Genuinely fear this could become a white elephant.
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Post by orvilorvil on Oct 17, 2018 18:05:17 GMT
Very bad call. My last performing loan on the platform. Yep, this was my last performing loan although I had been anticipating this from the updates. Hopefully something can be done by another platform perhaps to take this one on?
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Post by picanto on Nov 7, 2018 16:05:55 GMT
"Trading in this loan on the secondary market was suspended on 17 October 2018, because Lendy became aware, at that time, that an offer of finance has been made to the borrower to assist with the completion of the development, which if progressed would result in Lendy’s loan effectively being capped at the drawn amount, with no more funds to be advanced via Lendy to assist with the development. A third party has offered a loan facility of up to £10m to the borrower, to assist with the completion of phase one of the development, but the funder requires a first legal charge over the property, to rank ahead of Lendy’s investors. This offer is being considered. Investors should note that, no interest will now be payable to investors in this loan on a monthly basis and that the next interest payment run will only include interest on this loan up to and including 5 November 2018. Interest will continue to accrue and will be paid to investors, if the loan (DFL019) is fully and satisfactorily repaid, in due course"
Surely since the interest is paid upfront, Lendy should still pay the investors interest up until the loan term? This is a big blow to me personally because I have a substantial proportion of my whole Lendy portfolio in this loan and not being paid interest on account is altering the goalposts as far as I'm concerned.
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invester
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Post by invester on Nov 7, 2018 16:15:43 GMT
Why no vote?
That is a fundamental change to downgrade our loan to a second charge one, and no corresponding increase in interest.
As I see it we've been shafted via the back door. I can't see how this development is ever going to live up to the billing.
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Post by SteveT on Nov 7, 2018 16:41:49 GMT
Why no vote? That is a fundamental change to downgrade our loan to a second charge one, and no corresponding increase in interest. As I see it we've been shafted via the back door. I can't see how this development is ever going to live up to the billing. Ah, but we didn’t respond to Lendy’s repeated requests to fill new tranches in a timely manner, so we’ve only ourselves to blame 😉 The odd thing is, I don’t recall ever being asked whether we had the collective appetite to fund £20m-odd to a single development.
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Nov 7, 2018 17:03:41 GMT
/mod hat off
That prposed (?) change is ridiculous. ANO1 advances £10m, to biuld a bunch of sheds worth (IMO) rather less than that, and existing LY investors get to keep the change? Oh, and our DFL05 cash is entangled in this mess too, somehow. Time to sell the sheds for chicken coops or firewood, perhaps, and DFL05 for something close to the loan value.
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Garage246
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Post by Garage246 on Nov 7, 2018 17:36:38 GMT
Well if this happens and lenders are relegated to a second charge with no capital returned, then that stinks in my book.
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Garage246
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Post by Garage246 on Nov 7, 2018 17:47:29 GMT
Time for another formal complaint: Taken from: lendy.co.uk/risk'Interest Risk For the duration of a loan's term, other than when you have put a loan part up for sale, the Platform ensures you will receive interest in monthly instalments into your Lendy account as we deduct the whole of the loan term's interest from the loan advanced to the borrower. The interest gained upfront from the borrower is held in trust by Lendy in a separate bank account.'I look forward to my interest being paid as normal. Quite and quite justified to complain....
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Post by Badly Drawn Stickman on Nov 7, 2018 17:51:02 GMT
Well if this happens and lenders are relegated to a second charge with no capital returned, then that stinks in my book. Fairly unacceptable I would agree, if the potential new investor believes it is a viable proposition then they should accept equal ranking. If not, plainly they are simply using us as a cushion against shortfall.
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invester
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Post by invester on Nov 7, 2018 18:17:27 GMT
What is to stop Lendy having free reign of our money?
Surely this move is unlawful.
Even at £10m a second charge could be a wipeout on this. Not a chance the valuation stacks up, otherwise why would the other lender want a first charge.
It ain't going to a vote cos they know nobody would vote for it. Again totally unethical in my book.
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Post by picanto on Nov 7, 2018 18:31:18 GMT
What is to stop Lendy having free reign of our money? Surely this move is unlawful. Even at £10m a second charge could be a wipeout on this. Not a chance the valuation stacks up, otherwise why would the other lender want a first charge. It ain't going to a vote cos they know nobody would vote for it. Again totally unethical in my book. Just because the third party funder wants first legal charge doesn't mean the valuation is wrong, but my initial thought when I read this update was why no vote? I would never have put money into this if it was a second charge loan. This is the exact scenario why the voting system was brought in for. And as I stated previously, I can't see how Lendy can stop paying us monthly interest up until the loan term date, it is in their own T&C's that interest is paid on account up until the loan term date. This should not be allowed to be changed on a live loan.
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Post by mary on Nov 7, 2018 18:43:44 GMT
If this proposal went ahead, without any prior agreement from Lenders, I think, apart from the trashing of what little is left of their reputation, Lendy (and their directors) would be putting themselves in serious legal jeopardy for any, and all losses.
Just halting interest payments is unjustified.
But unilaterally demoting investors from 1st charge to 2nd charge is ... (struggling to find a polite adjective) ... reckless in the extreme, indefensible and many other words that are too impolite to mention!
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