bg
Member of DD Central
Posts: 1,368
Likes: 1,929
|
Post by bg on May 18, 2017 9:23:40 GMT
I spoke to them. The new loan ranks behind the first one and they are updating the loan details to reflect this.
|
|
|
Post by angrykittens on May 18, 2017 10:04:10 GMT
I spoke to them. The new loan ranks behind the first one and they are updating the loan details to reflect this. Excellent. See the following line has been added to the new loan - "In the event of a default that loan would have priority." It is filling surprisingly fast considering how slow the original filled
|
|
bg
Member of DD Central
Posts: 1,368
Likes: 1,929
|
Post by bg on May 18, 2017 10:35:10 GMT
I spoke to them. The new loan ranks behind the first one and they are updating the loan details to reflect this. Excellent. See the following line has been added to the new loan - "In the event of a default that loan would have priority." It is filling surprisingly fast considering how slow the original filled I think it's probably just the general lack of loans at the moment coupled with increased demand because of the IFISA's
|
|
mikes1531
Member of DD Central
Posts: 6,452
Likes: 2,319
|
Post by mikes1531 on May 18, 2017 21:07:12 GMT
It is filling surprisingly fast considering how slow the original filled I think it's probably just the general lack of loans at the moment coupled with increased demand because of the IFISA's I don't know exactly when the '2 Bristol Properties' loan being renewed right now was repaid, but that would have put something like £800k back into the accounts of the investors who didn't opt to renew their investments. With few other investment opportunities, the New Brighton tower block development loan was bound to attract some of that money.
|
|
rs
Member of DD Central
Posts: 467
Likes: 254
|
Post by rs on Jun 25, 2017 15:58:04 GMT
I think it's probably just the general lack of loans at the moment coupled with increased demand because of the IFISA's I don't know exactly when the '2 Bristol Properties' loan being renewed right now was repaid, but that would have put something like £800k back into the accounts of the investors who didn't opt to renew their investments. With few other investment opportunities, the New Brighton tower block development loan was bound to attract some of that money. anyone know how to find out how the development is progressing on new Brighton and if there is any suspect cladding being used on this development?
|
|
mikes1531
Member of DD Central
Posts: 6,452
Likes: 2,319
|
Post by mikes1531 on Jul 6, 2017 14:01:42 GMT
anyone know how to find out how the development is progressing on new Brighton and if there is any suspect cladding being used on this development? rs: This is a question I have all the time, and it's an area where fundingsecure communication is severely lacking. If a development loan needs a further tranche, there's often a progress update given in the new tranche description. But FS don't bother to add that info to any of the earlier loans on that property. Once the last tranche is disbursed, no further info tends to appear until a loan becomes overdue or is renewed. It isn't uncommon for a loan to be nearing maturity and have no updates at all. Which is particularly uninformative when the original loan description says the borrower is going to request PP, for instance. Did they apply? What has been the response? Or when the exit plan is to refinance. Has the borrower made any progress on that? Are they even trying? You could try asking your questions directly to FS by email. If they know anything, they'll probably tell you. But if they have a procedure in place for monitoring their loans, they haven't made that clear to investors. I get the feeling that they're treating property loans similarly to the way they treat pawn loans -- once the loan is made, it can be ignored until the term is up, at which time they try to contact the borrower to ascertain whether they're going to repay or renew the loan, or whether FS are going to need to start a recovery procedure. That might be a reasonable approach for small pawn loans, but ISTM that large property loans need much closer monitoring.
|
|
rs
Member of DD Central
Posts: 467
Likes: 254
|
Post by rs on Jul 14, 2017 20:45:12 GMT
anyone know how to find out how the development is progressing on new Brighton and if there is any suspect cladding being used on this development? rs: This is a question I have all the time, and it's an area where fundingsecure communication is severely lacking. If a development loan needs a further tranche, there's often a progress update given in the new tranche description. But FS don't bother to add that info to any of the earlier loans on that property. Once the last tranche is disbursed, no further info tends to appear until a loan becomes overdue or is renewed. It isn't uncommon for a loan to be nearing maturity and have no updates at all. Which is particularly uninformative when the original loan description says the borrower is going to request PP, for instance. Did they apply? What has been the response? Or when the exit plan is to refinance. Has the borrower made any progress on that? Are they even trying? You could try asking your questions directly to FS by email. If they know anything, they'll probably tell you. But if they have a procedure in place for monitoring their loans, they haven't made that clear to investors. I get the feeling that they're treating property loans similarly to the way they treat pawn loans -- once the loan is made, it can be ignored until the term is up, at which time they try to contact the borrower to ascertain whether they're going to repay or renew the loan, or whether FS are going to need to start a recovery procedure. That might be a reasonable approach for small pawn loans, but ISTM that large property loans need much closer monitoring. frustrating and thinking of pulling some of money out of FS.
|
|
|
Post by mrclondon on Nov 17, 2017 17:19:38 GMT
anyone know how to find out how the development is progressing on new Brighton and if there is any suspect cladding being used on this development? There are brief updates as to progress on the "Assets" tab on the renewal loan due to go live tomorrow. After the London fire, the developer put out a press release which as well being general promotional guff (link in DD Central), did say they were fitting sprinklers to every floor even though there was no requirement to do so. The press release also includes a photo of the impressive view from the upper floors across the Mersey to Liverpool.
|
|
rogerthat
Member of DD Central
Posts: 2,046
Likes: 1,993
|
Post by rogerthat on Nov 17, 2017 17:51:41 GMT
anyone know how to find out how the development is progressing on new Brighton and if there is any suspect cladding being used on this development? There are brief updates as to progress on the "Assets" tab on the renewal loan due to go live tomorrow. After the London fire, the developer put out a press release which as well being general promotional guff (link in DD Central), did say they were fitting sprinklers to every floor even though there was no requirement to do so. The press release also includes a photo of the impressive view from the upper floors across the Mersey to Liverpool. Although ive looked on DD Central I'm not sure if it encloses the short video that was included so I'll make an attempt to assist here:- <link removed as identifies the asset, reposted in DDC>
|
|
rogerthat
Member of DD Central
Posts: 2,046
Likes: 1,993
|
Post by rogerthat on Nov 17, 2017 18:07:22 GMT
Heavens..its like the Stasi..but I suppose by now I should have realised that should have gone where you've put it..'L' plates still required it seems
|
|
|
Post by mrclondon on Nov 17, 2017 18:20:43 GMT
Heavens..its like the Stasi..but I suppose by now I should have realised that should have gone where you've put it..'L' plates still required it seems Not sure accusing me of acting "like the Stasi" is really in keeping with the forum rule requesting "polite and constructive" dialogue. The forum rules exist for a reason, and not for the enjoyment of forum staff. It is becoming increasingly difficult for the forum staff to justify the continuing existence of the forum. You could have simply described where to find that video (in general terms), without needing to post the link to it on the public board. That way every reader of the forum could now be watching the video.
|
|
|
Post by genialharry on Nov 18, 2017 0:35:00 GMT
There are brief updates as to progress on the "Assets" tab on the renewal loan due to go live tomorrow. After the London fire, the developer put out a press release which as well being general promotional guff (link in DD Central), did say they were fitting sprinklers to every floor even though there was no requirement to do so. The press release also includes a photo of the impressive view from the upper floors across the Mersey to Liverpool. Although ive looked on DD Central I'm not sure if it encloses the short video that was included so I'll make an attempt to assist here:- <link removed as identifies the asset, reposted in DDC> Oh I missed that video Roger never mind the photos on the update look like the work is getting on ok. I think i will invest some in this tomorow especialy as its a first charge not the devlopment tranche. Thanks for all the information evryone. harry g
|
|
r1200gs
Member of DD Central
Posts: 1,312
Likes: 1,844
|
Post by r1200gs on Nov 18, 2017 8:17:38 GMT
I'm liking this one. Any sceptics out there, feel free to shoot me back down to reality.
|
|
|
Post by mrclondon on Nov 18, 2017 10:27:40 GMT
I'm liking this one. Any sceptics out there, feel free to shoot me back down to reality. Over exposure to the borrower's projects is one consideration (see thread Are all the Liverpool / Birkenhead loans linked? ). Many of the projects show minimal signs of progress, as the effort appears to be concentrated on this one and Llandudno. Fairly obviously with such a huge debt pile the interest payments are pretty substantial.
|
|
SteveT
Member of DD Central
Posts: 6,866
Likes: 7,907
|
Post by SteveT on Nov 18, 2017 11:01:32 GMT
Something like £150k available at launch. Filled in 20 seconds.
|
|