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Post by stevefindlay on Apr 17, 2017 20:17:36 GMT
I find it sad that I'm writing this post - however, having come back from an Easter break away and finally settling my 4 year-old daughter into bed with a cold, I've come onto the forum to be faced with almost entirely negative comments, many from forum members that aren't even BondMason clients.
Whilst the experience and insight of many good forum members has been invaluable to us, life is too short and I'm pretty much fed up with speindg so much time handling a vocal negative minority. The vast majority of our clients are very happy with our service and appreciate our efforts to enable them to get a return on their hard earned money. Sadly, in this day and age it seems that vociferous 'fake news' all too often trumps facts and reality.
I've never sought to avoid difficult questions or criticisms - and we like feedback, bad or good - but I'm tired of fighting the noise.
I was very tempted to simply sign off for good right now, but instead I'll put it to a vote: should I stay on the P2P forum:
(1) Stay - but I'll reduce posting on the forum to once a week. (2) Go - clients can still contact us by phone and email, and get information from our website in the usual way (my personal preference)
Winner decided at the end of the week...
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Post by david42 on Apr 17, 2017 20:38:40 GMT
Steve
It is very sad that it has come to this. The more you respond to concerns, the more it encourages people to dig further. Some other platforms would appear to have come to the same conclusion as you.
On the positive side: - this forum brings business to your platform. I, for one, invested in your platform having read about you here. And I only invest in platforms that have a strong forum presence. - it is more efficient for you to address a concern once here for everyone to see, rather than have everyone contacting the platform individually, or worse people just not investing because they cannot understand it. - in spite of all the repetition and grief the forum remains an effective way for you to find out what worries your investors. - I have often found your responses to concerns informative.
So I like your suggested compromise of rationing your responses in a predictable way that we can all understand.
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Post by dan1 on Apr 17, 2017 20:55:59 GMT
I find it sad that I'm writing this post - however, having come back from an Easter break away and finally settling my 4 year-old daughter into bed with a cold, I've come onto the forum to be faced with almost entirely negative comments, many from forum members that aren't even BondMason clients. Whilst the experience and insight of many good forum members has been invaluable to us, life is too short and I'm pretty much fed up with speindg so much time handling a vocal negative minority. The vast majority of our clients are very happy with our service and appreciate our efforts to enable them to get a return on their hard earned money. Sadly, in this day and age it seems that vociferous 'fake news' all too often trumps facts and reality. I've never sought to avoid difficult questions or criticisms - and we like feedback, bad or good - but I'm tired of fighting the noise. I was very tempted to simply sign off for good right now, but instead I'll put it to a vote: should I stay on the P2P forum: (1) Stay - but I'll reduce posting on the forum to once a week. (2) Go - clients can still contact us by phone and email, and get information from our website in the usual way (my personal preference) Winner decided at the end of the week... I would advise against putting it to the vote. You must decide what's in the best interests of BondMason. This is your livelihood after all (just think of your 4 year old) whereas for clients this is an investment. Engagement with the community is positive but unless you're incredibly thick skinned or you specialise in this function then it may grind you down (I'd find it impossible in your position to not take many of the comments as personal). Personally, I've found your feedback constructive, patient, measured but I've always sensed frustration from your postings. The forum is open to everyone and those with a grievance will always vent on here, as I have done myself at times. I wish you & BM a successful future, whether or not you decide to stay on the forum.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2017 21:05:12 GMT
Well I would never have started with (or even heard of) BondMason without the input on this forum. Your willingness to deal with difficult questions openly is a positive from my personal point of view.
But thats purely anecdotal. I have no idea what % of BondMasons clients or total portfolio amount has any connection to this forum.
So whether or not you get a tangible business benefit from being on this forum... only you guys can answer that.
There is a lot of good stuff on this forum. There is also a lot of noise. This place can be a good sounding board if you ignore those with an obvious axe to grind.
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Post by markm on Apr 17, 2017 21:47:48 GMT
Stay please - it's been helpful reading your various insights and responses and reasoning on the forum and has saved me wanting to call BM on a number of occasions. I've not welcomed the hike in fees (who does) but appreciate you providing a detailed rationale for it and the increased minimum investment.
However, I'd also support you reducing your posting to more manageable (for you) levels, even if that's just in the short to medium term until things have settled down again with the new BM model. And I hope your daughter's cold improves soon!
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Post by starfished on Apr 17, 2017 22:15:39 GMT
Being a rep on these boards is not too dissimilar to online dating... Every now and again you need to have a break for your own sanity For what it is worth, I will probably be closing my account (I am very much a small fish) but understand your motivation, especially after the last few days.
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Post by oldgrumpy on Apr 17, 2017 23:21:03 GMT
I would prefer you to stay. Multiple questions and "observations" can often be answered together on a weekly(ish) basis, thus avoiding repetitive work for you. We shouldn't actually expect personal responses every time on a forum. We can get them via emails, though they might cause repetitive answers but as least you can cut/paste/adapt replies in those situations.
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Post by fogey on Apr 18, 2017 2:32:09 GMT
I find it sad that I'm writing this post - It was transparently obvious that such a low entry level/fee never made any real long term business sense for such a complex product but rather that it offered a promotional opportunity for people to sample this product for a very small outlay. The only surprise is that this opportunity lasted as long as it did. From the recently released figures of 500+ total client base it seems that perhaps around a half of these accounts were either running at a loss or making very little profit at all. If I was running such a business in this state I would not be at all sad to lose such a millstone from around my neck, on the contrary I would be elated. Perhaps the perplexed perspectives from outside the Perspex Box should try harder to understand the perspective from within it. The real problem with the transparency issue here is to understand the machinations that are going on within the box and how they should be used for the mutual advantage of the platform operator and the clients. If everything was so transparently obvious and easy to understand there would be no need for all these questions here and the difficulties in understanding the answers.
So yes you have to be here to explain your business case and how it all works as no one else is suitably qualified. It just makes sense to take a low profile at the moment until the Aunt Sally bashing craze dies down and sensible discussions can resume again.
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Post by tybalt on Apr 18, 2017 5:50:08 GMT
I would say stay. I have not invested in Bond Mason preferring my own due diligence. I like the relatively high minimum investment and would probably recommend BM to any friend who wanted to try P2B on an invest and forget basis. Without a presence here I would probably not be as keen on B M.
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Post by archie on Apr 18, 2017 6:27:02 GMT
There is a correlation between how popular a platform is and how well they communicate on this forum. I'd say it would be better for BM if you continue to post here. I'm not an investor but I do think BM offer a useful service.
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Post by ashtondav on Apr 18, 2017 7:30:23 GMT
Stay. My confidence in RS plummeted when they no longer had a representative present on the forum.
once a week is fine. Btw, it's probably cheaper than answering similar telephone queries.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 7:42:18 GMT
stevefindlay I can only hope the strongly one sided vote shows how valued your contributions directly to the forum are, although you've been facing a barrage of accusations, I really feel these are from a minority who through being so vociferous in their anger drown out the many many less vocal forum members who read and hugely appreciate your open and helpful approach. It's only my opinion but if someone is going to get so frustrated by not reaching their target performance on a p2p platform or a well notified change of terms on a new and developing platform they really need to leave p2p and head back to the certainty of an FSCA protected bank account. At the very least if it doesn't suit them, take your money to a platform you prefer without stating crazy intentions to complain to the FCA about a well explained and well executed change of terms as you depart! I actually say this despite the fact I intend to liquidate but that is neither due to the excellent service on offer or your approach, I simply don't want to invest more outside of a tax wrapper. I've asked previously but is the IFISA still something you are progressing with/intending to offer? I for one will certainly be back with a larger deposit if this become a reality. I'll finish by saying that I understand why you would consider leaving, at times I don't know where you find the patience to deal with certain posts but I strongly vote for a continued presence!
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Post by adrianc on Apr 18, 2017 8:47:35 GMT
I find it sad that I'm writing this post - however, having come back from an Easter break away and finally settling my 4 year-old daughter into bed with a cold... (1) Stay - but I'll reduce posting on the forum to once a week. There does seem to be a sensible compromise between these two situations...
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Post by bugs4me on Apr 18, 2017 9:04:30 GMT
The problem as I'm sure you're already aware stevefindlay is that if you answer one simple question then the whole thread sometimes goes off at a tangent and the last post a few pages on bears little resemblence to the OP query. If however the time spent answering these questions is not impacting the business then from a PR point of view your presence is welcomed. On the other hand if it is then........ Personally I think you should scale back to your suggestion of once a week and then only answer direct questions. There's always going to be folks unhappy/disappointed and really there's no answer to this apart from withdraw and go elsewhere if they are so inclined. So IMO, answers should be limited to general direct queries which are relevant to the business as a whole. The BM website is already fairly clear and I cannot see the point in repeating on the forum information that is already available elsewhere. On another point, if the forum negatives are having an impact on your personal life then withdraw - it's not worth it. Forum members do afterall make up a small minority.
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Post by nairda on Apr 18, 2017 10:30:20 GMT
Steve, ultimately, your priorities must be your family and your own health and well being, but I hope you will continue to engage with your investors here but at a level that works best for them and BondMason
Over the weekend I decided that I would withdraw my unlent funds and liquidate my modest investment but yesterday I had a change of heart and sent an urgent e-mail asking if the liquidation could be stopped. I had a reply from Steve personally this morning just after 0730 confirming that this would be done. That is an impressive level of service which few companies could match. I will be replacing my withdrawn balance to get my investment back over the £5k threshold, but I plan to put back more than I took out.
Yes, I was disappointed by the proposed changes, but I have always been impressed by Steve's willingness to become involved with us on this forum, and for that I thank him and hope he decides continue. I have never met Steve but the impression I get is that he is a very open, honest and sincere man who is trying to do his best for all concerned. I can't say I will always stay with BondMason, that would be foolish, but I am willing to see how it goes for now and increase my level of investment. Unfortunately I can only drip feed at the moment and I accept that I have to live with the consequences of that.
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