skippyonspeed
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Post by skippyonspeed on Jun 4, 2017 9:00:36 GMT
I still can not think why SS decided that changing it to Lendy would be a good idea.
I said at the time, if I was new to P2P I would not have even looked at their website, let alone invest any money with them.
To me it sounds like it was a decision made by a 3 year old (a 2 year old would have probably put Wendy on the end).
It would be interesting to know if this "wonderful" decision has attracted any new money. Looking at the SM it would appear it hasn't, and may be just one reason why the thread "Why I am leaving Lendy" has had so much attention of late.
Perhaps it's my age showing and dumbing down is the future!.....If so, and I'm totally wrong, Lendy Wendy it is, or, may I suggest, with permission, Mr Lendy
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Post by SteveT on Jun 4, 2017 9:45:10 GMT
I still can not think why SS decided that changing it to Lendy would be a good idea. At a guess, because Lendy has always been their company name. Saving Stream was a retail brand they could no longer use because the FCA object to the use of the word "saving" in the context of P2P.
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Post by r1200gs on Jun 4, 2017 10:02:44 GMT
I find it difficult to believe that the name would influence the investing decisions of the sophisticated investors who use this site and P2P in general. Or perhaps they are not so sophisticated.
I said on another thread that Lendy speak with forked tongue when it comes to that. In one breath they are suggesting it's safe as houses with a 30 percent buffer at all times, with a provision fund in the unlikely event that the proceeds of a default sale don't cover the loan, in another they tell us we should take professional advice before investing.
In another breath they tell us they do world class due diligence, and then tell us we need to do our own which would seem to be correct when they lend to a life long con man who's greatest achievement has been to stay out of jail, or concrete boots, and who has stitched us up a treat.
Regardless, as said, Savingstream had to go because this is clearly not a savings account.
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skippyonspeed
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Post by skippyonspeed on Jun 4, 2017 13:30:44 GMT
I still can not think why SS decided that changing it to Lendy would be a good idea. At a guess, because Lendy has always been their company name. Saving Stream was a retail brand they could no longer use because the FCA object to the use of the word "saving" in the context of P2P. Okay, if it is such a great name, why did they not use Lendy from the start?
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Post by ding on Jun 4, 2017 14:43:33 GMT
Not a name I would have chosen. Not very corporate, insert gag...
I prefer it though, as I was getting savingstream and ratesetter mixed up. To many sites with very generic names.
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skippyonspeed
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Post by skippyonspeed on Jun 4, 2017 17:11:48 GMT
Would have preferred that the third option had been split out as two separate responses. I absolutely do know that I don't care. My flabber hasn't been so gasted for a long time. I can usually pre-guess poll results quite accurately. I was not expecting such a large percentage picking option 3. I have been wondering why so many people don't care, when it could even contribute to L going down the toilet and obviously losing them money. I would move out now but can't because now virtually all my loan parts are going to take many months to sell with a substantial loss of interest. Before the name change I could sell the lot almost instantly because they are all 12% with at least 100 days remaining. The 3 parts I currently have on the SM could go into default at the rate they are currently moving if borrowers can't return the capital It's a shame nobody seems to want to give any reasons, for choosing 3, some could be competitor reps who could benefit by getting extra business, some could be from disillusioned lenders who have already moved funds out. When you consider large companies spend millions of pounds on rebranding.........and even then they don't always get it right. One that springs to mind was back in the early nineties, when BT chose silver and white for their van livery......apparently a lot of the staff hated it. I think that cost about £50million. First impressions are very important, the results of a lot of job interviews have already been made before the applicant says a word. A company's first impression is it's name
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Post by bracknellboy on Jun 4, 2017 17:11:52 GMT
If this is the biggest issue or discussion point facing investors with Lendy then they all must have big smiles on their faces.
They should however have gone the extra mile and settled on Lendy McLendface. Has a similar level of gravitas.
Perhaps they could spend some of that SM interest they are currently accruing to the detriment of the "lendy" side of their customer base on some brand consultancy.
EDIT: For the avoidance of doubt, this post was written without any knowledge of the precedeing post (well, apart from the bit after the word "Edit" of course, but hopefully that is self explanatory).
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Post by trevor on Jun 4, 2017 17:40:12 GMT
Another change would invite criticism. The Lendy detractors would have a field day.
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skippyonspeed
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Post by skippyonspeed on Jun 4, 2017 17:42:32 GMT
It's a shame nobody seems to want to give any reasons, for choosing 3, some could be competitor reps who could benefit by getting extra business, some could be from disillusioned lenders who have already moved funds out. I chose 3. I really don't think it matters what the platform calls itself. Are the kind of borrower that the likes of Lendy attract going to discern their funding partner based on a name? I doubt it. If you want / need the money bad enough, you'll go to the loan sharks even if they're called 'Razor Ray' or 'Break-yer-legs Bill' Getting borrowers is not the current problem........getting new lenders IS, because they are not so desperate and they have a growing selection of companies to choose from, some which offer incentives as a bonus
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Post by skippyonspeed on Jun 4, 2017 18:01:41 GMT
Another change would invite criticism. The Lendy detractors would have a field day. That wouldn't last long, a couple of weeks tops..........but it might attract enough new lenders that could clear up the current glut of loan parts. It goes back to the old saying 99% of all advertising is a waste of money, the problem is not knowing the 1% that isn't.
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Post by skippyonspeed on Jun 4, 2017 18:28:37 GMT
Getting borrowers is not the current problem........getting new lenders IS, because they are not so desperate and they have a growing selection of companies to choose from, some which offer incentives as a bonus Is it? Judging by the rate the number of registered users continues to increase on a daily basis, something is dragging those new registrees in - or, at least, the name 'Lendy' is turning everybody off. My view: P2P is still sufficiently niche enough for 'brand' not to count for much. If something is keeping new lenders away or those new registrees from investing, I don't think it's the name. Well, if you are getting this info from the L website, it may not be true. I invested in a company that had a "live" counter that supposedly showed new customers as they signed up, however, it was just a number generating progamme that was driving it........ also it does not mean they have invested any money, some sites you have to register an interest just to get additional info.
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Post by mason on Jun 4, 2017 18:32:48 GMT
I couldn't care less how many times they changed their name or what they call themselves. I'm surprised anyone cares much what they are called. I find it hard to believe the loss of investor confidence has much to do with the name 'Lendy', when the more likely culprits are reduced interest rates, a spike in defaults, and the realisation that negative term loans are in interest arrears.
The best thing they could do to attract more money to the platform would be to work on FCA compliance, get full authorisation and launch an ISA. A welcome side effect of this would be that they would need to ensure their future financial promotions were clear and not misleading, which would be of great benefit to all investors.
For me, I'm waiting for a number of previously issued dodgy loans to meet their fate before I reconsider coming back (which probably means next year at the earliest). I'm crossing my fingers that I won't see any more of the same brought to the platform in the interim.
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Post by greatmarko on Jun 5, 2017 11:26:54 GMT
They should revert back to the name "Saving Stream". I'm really surprised they changed to "Lendy", given there's already another P2P platform in Europe called "Lenndy"
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Post by ilmoro on Jun 5, 2017 11:36:11 GMT
They should revert back to the name "Saving Stream". I'm really surprised they changed to "Lendy", given there's already another P2P platform in Europe called "Lenndy" They have always been Lendy [long before Lenndy existed] (see CH & FCA that is the registered name), SavingStream was a brand name and had to be changed based on FCA feedback. Two sides to the business, and on the borrower side Lendy is the established name so it made sense to use the existing name rather than come up with something new. Saves cash as well as less rebranding.
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Post by TonyL on Jun 5, 2017 12:33:46 GMT
Getting borrowers is not the current problem........getting new lenders IS, because they are not so desperate and they have a growing selection of companies to choose from, some which offer incentives as a bonus Is it? Judging by the rate the number of registered users continues to increase on a daily basis, something is dragging those new registrees in - or, at least, the name 'Lendy' is turning everybody off. My view: P2P is still sufficiently niche enough for 'brand' not to count for much. If something is keeping new lenders away or those new registrees from investing, I don't think it's the name. I keep a track of the website's quoted 'Registered Users' and I have done since I joined just over a year ago. What I can tell you is that as of 30th March 2017 the chart shows the number of new registered users has slowed to an average of 12 per day compared to 22 per day for the entire previous year. And it's remarkably stable. This doesn't confirm that it relates solely to the name change, although the dates do match. The numbers also don't relate to the feast and famine of the SM as the stability of Registered Users growth (22 before and 12 after) has carried on regardless of loan availability. What the numbers don't show is what people are willing to invest in...and how much. For that you should look at the Investor Activity in the individual loans. That shows that people are still willing to invest in all the long-dated loans. It appears that everyone is getting cold feet as the 'default loans' page grows and the lack of growth in the 'repaid loans' page does nothing to inspire confidence. I think Lendy has fallen into a little bit of a trap as the number of P2P competitors has grown and I see the only way out is to restore some of the confidence we all had several months ago. Hopefully they'll address that soon.
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