stevio
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Post by stevio on Jul 13, 2017 17:09:00 GMT
Barring a suitable day to day or emergency fund, I generally invest surplus funds within a few days and have very little uninvested funds or cash drag
However, every so often, a really good investment comes along which I wish I had more funds for
I make use of a couple platforms that I know generally I can sell loans and receive funds into account the same day
When a good investment does come along, I often see others say they have moved funds, often within a short time. Where was that from?
Just wondered if this is the norm or if other use any different strategies?
Do you hold funds till the perfect investment comes along? If so, what %?
Do you make use of platforms where you can easily liquadate? Which ones?
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Post by nellerdk on Jul 13, 2017 17:46:20 GMT
hi stevio are we talking about stocks or p2p loans here? Please specify, in more detail, what you are interested in
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Post by stevio on Jul 13, 2017 18:19:34 GMT
hi stevio are we talking about stocks or p2p loans here? Please specify, in more detail, what you are interested in P2P Thanks
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Post by r00lish67 on Jul 13, 2017 18:50:27 GMT
I currently have a portfolio that is approximately 30% P2P, 25% Shares, 25% BTL, 20% Cash. The cash is in the usual bank account suspects.
If something juicy comes along, the first port of call would be to sell anything P2P that's becoming rather aged - usually on FS especially if I can sell near par, or sometimes MT/FC. If I'm feeling brave I might dip into my cash and temporarily change the allocations, especially if I have any sitting in sub-2% accounts.
I do very much like platforms which are relatively quick to deposit/invest/sell/withdraw - for me, those are: FS, MT, FC (believe it or not), and Collateral, although I don't have much there at the moment for some reason.
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Post by stevio on Jul 13, 2017 19:19:18 GMT
I currently have a portfolio that is approximately 30% P2P, 25% Shares, 25% BTL, 20% Cash. The cash is in the usual bank account suspects. If something juicy comes along, the first port of call would be to sell anything P2P that's becoming rather aged - usually on FS especially if I can sell near par, or sometimes MT/FC. If I'm feeling brave I might dip into my cash and temporarily change the allocations, especially if I have any sitting in sub-2% accounts. I do very much like platforms which are relatively quick to deposit/invest/sell/withdraw - for me, those are: FS, MT, FC (believe it or not), and Collateral, although I don't have much there at the moment for some reason. Thank you Thats a great summary and exactly what I was after I hadn't thought of FS, mainly because it used to require a discount, but I guess selling at par now is a lot easier post IFISA? My MT funds never seem to grow much before I raid them! This might be my biggest mistake.................or maybe the best interest bearing quasi savings account From someone who has 0.1% cash as emergency/day to day fund, if you dont mind me asking, for me 20% seems quite high. Is there a specific reason for this or just a comfortable level for you personally?
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Post by r00lish67 on Jul 13, 2017 19:28:01 GMT
I currently have a portfolio that is approximately 30% P2P, 25% Shares, 25% BTL, 20% Cash. The cash is in the usual bank account suspects. If something juicy comes along, the first port of call would be to sell anything P2P that's becoming rather aged - usually on FS especially if I can sell near par, or sometimes MT/FC. If I'm feeling brave I might dip into my cash and temporarily change the allocations, especially if I have any sitting in sub-2% accounts. I do very much like platforms which are relatively quick to deposit/invest/sell/withdraw - for me, those are: FS, MT, FC (believe it or not), and Collateral, although I don't have much there at the moment for some reason. Thank you Thats a great summary and exactly what I was after I hadn't thought of FS, mainly because it used to require a discount, but I guess selling at par now is a lot easier post IFISA? My MT funds never seem to grow much before I raid them! This might be my biggest mistake.................or maybe the best interest bearing quasi savings account From someone who has 0.1% cash as emergency/day to day fund, if you dont mind me asking, for me 20% seems quite high. Is there a specific reason for this or just a comfortable level for you personally? No problem asking - yes, there's a specific reason, well two actually. I sold my house a couple of years ago and am currently travelling whilst on a very uncertain income. So the cash is firstly for a possible future house or at least house deposit, and also for me to mentally cope with having a variable and small income for the foreseeable future i.e. I know I have X many month/years living expenses so I don't need to worry. As a third lesser reason, there are still remnants of good deals in cash that stand up to P2P (although much less than before) e.g. £2.5k @ Nationwide current, £500pm Nationwide Flex Reg Saver, HSBC Reg Saver, M+S Reg Saver are all at 5%. Ford Money Reg + ISA @ 4%, Tesco £3k @ 3% (x2). All twice over as wife has accounts too. Definitely alot of faff, and increasingly less worth it, but those rates are comparable to something like ratesetter/zopa so a no brainer in my circumstances. Edit: Forgot to add that yes, selling on FS is currently quite attractive at the moment IMV. Unless it's a truly great loan, I tend to sell up almost entirely prior to sub 30-days. Even with just over 30 days remaining, often only a minor haircut is required, perhaps -0.2% or -0.3% currently - well worth it given the risks that hanging around for the grand finale often bring. As I'm not a BH, not concerned about missing out on bonus rates.
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Post by stevio on Jul 13, 2017 19:42:02 GMT
Thank you Thats a great summary and exactly what I was after I hadn't thought of FS, mainly because it used to require a discount, but I guess selling at par now is a lot easier post IFISA? My MT funds never seem to grow much before I raid them! This might be my biggest mistake.................or maybe the best interest bearing quasi savings account From someone who has 0.1% cash as emergency/day to day fund, if you dont mind me asking, for me 20% seems quite high. Is there a specific reason for this or just a comfortable level for you personally? No problem asking - yes, there's a specific reason, well two actually. I sold my house a couple of years ago and am currently travelling whilst on a very uncertain income. So the cash is firstly for a possible future house or at least house deposit, and also for me to mentally cope with having a variable and small income for the foreseeable future i.e. I know I have X many month/years living expenses so I don't need to worry. As a third lesser reason, there are still remnants of good deals in cash that stand up to P2P (although much less than before) e.g. £2.5k @ Nationwide current, £500pm Nationwide Flex Reg Saver, HSBC Reg Saver, M+S Reg Saver are all at 5%. Ford Money Reg + ISA @ 4%, Tesco £3k @ 3% (x2). All twice over as wife has accounts too. Definitely alot of faff, and increasingly less worth it, but those rates are comparable to something like ratesetter/zopa so a no brainer in my circumstances. Edit: Forgot to add that yes, selling on FS is currently quite attractive at the moment IMV. Unless it's a truly great loan, I tend to sell up almost entirely prior to sub 30-days. Even with just over 30 days remaining, often only a minor haircut is required, perhaps -0.2% or -0.3% currently - well worth it given the risks that hanging around for the grand finale often bring. As I'm not a BH, not concerned about missing out on bonus rates. That seems a great reason and rather jealous Before P2P I had a considerable amount more (particularly Santander when they allowed large amounts) in high interest current accounts, often 3 variations: mine, wife and joint. So completely understandable. I have just helped my wife make use of similar 3 variations for her use, as I no longer use and I am yet to convince her of P2P! Additionally, I over payed my mortgages (including BTLs) in an effective extension to my tax free allowance outside of ISAs
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Post by pom on Jul 14, 2017 17:40:29 GMT
I think a lot depends on individual circumstances, I currently have about 11% in cash* (with over half of that pretty much instantly accessible) which is far more (years-worth) than I need, so can instantly invest and then rebalance later if something catches my eye. But even when I don't (and I'm consistently way over the last "this is my final p2p pot expansion" it's still not making that much of a dent on my cash...time to find something else to invest in perhaps.
*not including whatever is currently uninvested cash as part of my S&S portfolio because I really can't keep track of that as well
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Post by nellerdk on Jul 14, 2017 20:29:50 GMT
In Mintos, I have 0 cash. I don't see the point. My autoinvest just sucks everything in.
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Post by Harland Kearney on Jul 15, 2017 2:40:19 GMT
I usaly have between 1-3 percent of my money in cash that doesnt need to strapped down, I have about 15 percent of my money in P2P and the rest is invested in global equity funds though HL in my ISA and lifetime ISA. because of my young age 19 nearly all profit earnings from my business was going into the recent market bull run but ive stopped injecting capital as the bull has mostly ran and market feels overvalued and a shaky brexit under way. You could say brexit risk is more focuse in p2p but I feel diversification will be sufficient enough to continue growing my p2p commitment.
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Post by dan1 on Jul 15, 2017 7:01:58 GMT
I usaly have between 1-3 percent of my money in cash that doesnt need to strapped down, I have about 15 percent of my money in P2P and the rest is invested in global equity funds though HL in my ISA and lifetime ISA. because of my young age 19 nearly all profit earnings from my business was going into the recent market bull run but ive stopped injecting capital as the bull has mostly ran and market feels overvalued and a shaky brexit under way. You could say brexit risk is more focuse in p2p but I feel diversification will be sufficient enough to continue growing my p2p commitment. Don't underestimate the impact of currency movements. And you won't get compensated for this extra risk. Having said that it's probably preferable to having all your equity eggs in the UK basket - and by UK basket I mean FTSE 250 and below (majority of FTSE 100 earnings are from overseas). Btw, at 19 I'm a) envious of your age and b) impressed you're on the investment journey so young, of which I'm again envious!
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Post by r00lish67 on Jul 15, 2017 9:04:06 GMT
I usaly have between 1-3 percent of my money in cash that doesnt need to strapped down, I have about 15 percent of my money in P2P and the rest is invested in global equity funds though HL in my ISA and lifetime ISA. because of my young age 19 nearly all profit earnings from my business was going into the recent market bull run but ive stopped injecting capital as the bull has mostly ran and market feels overvalued and a shaky brexit under way. You could say brexit risk is more focuse in p2p but I feel diversification will be sufficient enough to continue growing my p2p commitment. Don't underestimate the impact of currency movements. And you won't get compensated for this extra risk. Having said that it's probably preferable to having all your equity eggs in the UK basket - and by UK basket I mean FTSE 250 and below (majority of FTSE 100 earnings are from overseas). Btw, at 19 I'm a) envious of your age and b) impressed you're on the investment journey so young, of which I'm again envious! Likewise, I'm impressed. I share the sentiments about market overvaluation, but then have done for years and it keeps going up so I've obviously been largely wrong so far as have endless 'experts'. The currency risk can go either way, I think we were sitting close to parity with the euro over the 2008/9 crisis, so no reason that can't happen again,or worse, if Brexit really bites. With my current lifestyle living mostly abroad, my spending power effectively dropped by about 15% overnight last June, not something I had planned for, but which thankfully I was slightly insulated from in the medium run by having circa 25% in global shares which rose due to the devaluation of Sterling. A good lesson for anyone planning to live abroad! Other than that, I find P2P a brilliant outlet to having stopped me trying to play with equities Every time I've done anything other than just buy chunks of low cost index tracker fund, I've regretted it.
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Post by Harland Kearney on Jul 15, 2017 11:11:17 GMT
I recommend most Funds like Fundsmith, HL-Select or the HL manged funds. But these are aimed to really be held by most accounts people will give 5 years minimum. They require a certain attitude of selecting a fund manager (with a good track record though bad market movements) and sticking to your placing's. Unlike P2P, P2P gives you a element of direct control where Fund managers do not. If you select your own share portfolio that is different but I do not feel confident to do that.
The worry with the recent bull run is that it was under the pre-tense of the devaluation of the pound obviously; but there has been no sentiment of a boost in confidence in UK equities by the majority of the investing public IMO. So I've wanted to lower my portfolio exposure to the UK and leave it in decently managed funds. America is my largest holding in my portfolio (Via Fundsmith) and more dispersed holdings in Asia follows. I'm under the impression these investments are long-term as in I want to hold them for 5-8 years and my lifetime ISA until I buy a property or even retirement.
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Post by caesium on Jul 15, 2017 11:42:58 GMT
Watch the fees on the HL Multi-Manager funds though (assuming those are the managed ones you mean?). They're pretty high compared to things like ETFs which will give you broadly similar (in my opinion, not advice, etc) performance over the long term. And all other things being equal, high fees will decimate your returns. Fundsmith, Woodford, and global ETFs are most of my stock holdings atm. Also not so sure about calling 5 years long term when it comes to stocks and funds. 15, 20 maybe. Dead impressed at your investment choices for 19 years old though! I have 4 year old nephew I'm planning to ingrain all this into by the time he's old enough to save some money
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Post by macq on Jul 15, 2017 13:15:30 GMT
with worries about the stock market you may want to look at funds that can short the market as well as investing for growth or investment trusts like RIT capital partners & a couple of others that look to work in a defensive way as part of their strategy
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