jimbob
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Post by jimbob on Jul 17, 2017 15:38:50 GMT
Right now, almost 100% equity in my own property. Looking to move :} I'm afraid the yield won't be enough for solicitorious as a BTL investment... (Wd be around 6% I think)
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gibmike
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Post by gibmike on Jul 17, 2017 16:38:56 GMT
Not really of any interest without the context of rough net worth. i.e. 4,5, low 6, high 6, 7 figures I disagree hazellend and caesium, not sure why these two factors are important. The question is perfectly fine and gives people an indication as to how they spread their portfolio. This is how I would extrapolate my figures (neither of which are real). P2P 12.17% £121,700 \ £1,217,000 Cash 4.00% £40,000 \ £400,000 Property 40.38% £403,800 \ £4,038,000 S&S 34.84% £348,400 \ £3,484,000 Options 4.41% £44,100 \ £441,000 Loans 4.21% £42,100 \ £421,000 I am however over 40 and under 50
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Post by hazellend on Jul 17, 2017 21:07:26 GMT
Not really of any interest without the context of rough net worth. i.e. 4,5, low 6, high 6, 7 figures I disagree hazellend and caesium , not sure why these two factors are important. The question is perfectly fine and gives people an indication as to how they spread their portfolio. This is how I would extrapolate my figures (neither of which are real). P2P 12.17% £121,700 \ £1,217,000 Cash 4.00% £40,000 \ £400,000 Property 40.38% £403,800 \ £4,038,000t S&S 34.84% £348,400 \ £3,484,000 Options 4.41% £44,100 \ £441,000 Loans 4.21% £42,100 \ £421,000 I am however over 40 and under 50 It is relevant because how somebody invests should depend on their willingness, need and ability to take risk. The main two factors are how close to retirement and how much of your retirement total networth you have invested. The data might be entertaining but it is of no practical use.
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Post by buggerthebanks on Jul 19, 2017 22:11:41 GMT
P2P: 40% (reducing)
Cash: 30% (reducing)
Stocks: 15% (reducing)
Gold: 15% (increasing)
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ozboy
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Post by ozboy on Jul 19, 2017 22:14:09 GMT
That's interesting buggerthebanks.
Gold is arguably expensive at the mo, however I assume that you believe it will go higher pending possible forthcoming turmoil?
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Post by lobster on Jul 20, 2017 8:01:34 GMT
That's interesting buggerthebanks. Gold is arguably expensive at the mo, however I assume that you believe it will go higher pending possible forthcoming turmoil? I used to be a bit of a "goldbug" but now I'm no longer nearly as convinced, although I try to keep an open mind. I was quite sure that our entire financial system was doomed and was virtually on the point of collapse, largely caused by the practice of "fractional reserve lending". I was quite heavily influenced by various online "gurus" such as Jim Sinclair , Turd Ferguson (yes, the name is correct !) , Peter Schiff and plenty of others. For a while , these guys convinced me that the Gold (and Silver) markets were rigged to the downside by the big banks and bullion houses, a theory which I now consider to be total bull. Hey buggerthebanks Gold may well be a good investment right now , and you are probably a lot smarter than me (most people are ) , but just thought I'd mention this in passing. Be careful, and ensure that you are not succumbing to any sort of "confirmation bias" as I now believe I was.
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Post by codliveroil on Jul 20, 2017 10:28:27 GMT
stocks: 90% - Mostly FTSE 100 p2p: 10% bonds: 0% property: 0% cash: 0%
This is excluding home, pension and six month emergency fund.
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Post by buggerthebanks on Jul 20, 2017 10:36:14 GMT
That's interesting buggerthebanks. Gold is arguably expensive at the mo, however I assume that you believe it will go higher pending possible forthcoming turmoil? I used to be a bit of a "goldbug" but now I'm no longer nearly as convinced, although I try to keep an open mind. I was quite sure that our entire financial system was doomed and was virtually on the point of collapse, largely caused by the practice of "fractional reserve lending". I was quite heavily influenced by various online "gurus" such as Jim Sinclair , Turd Ferguson (yes, the name is correct !) , Peter Schiff and plenty of others. For a while , these guys convinced me that the Gold (and Silver) markets were rigged to the downside by the big banks and bullion houses, a theory which I now consider to be total bull. Hey buggerthebanks Gold may well be a good investment right now , and you are probably a lot smarter than me (most people are ) , but just thought I'd mention this in passing. Be careful, and ensure that you are not succumbing to any sort of "confirmation bias" as I now believe I was. We actually don't have fractional reserve lending in this country. I was of the opinion we do, but you'll be amazed what the BoE are prepared to impart if you only ask them. For the record, I believe what we have is far worse. QE, though: that's a different matter entirely. Try asking the BoE about that. They really DO NOT want people poking their nose into that hole. I only have circumstantial evidence at present, but it's a giant con. I am firmly of the belief that our current monetary system is on the brink of collapse. History tells us there are few ways out of such a circumstance. One way out would (of course) be an actual collapse, at which time gold will come into its own & protect my wealth (such that I have). Another would be via inflation (this (to me) seems most likely), & again, gold should serve me well here. I don't believe money on deposit is safe (the FSCS is woefully under-funded & I've read the BRRD). Gold will always be worth something. "Money" on the other hand, is not. Our monetary system is insolvent by design because it serves the people who run the system very well, but debt-based monetary systems cannot endure forever. I've had a very enjoyable last two years, spending my modest hard-earned wealth on things I've previously deprived myself of (I'm no longer a young man). What I don't spend goes into gold. I take great comfort knowing that what I have left is safe (certainly safer than in a bank, bond, stock or unit trust). Yes, property is always worth something, too, but I have one of those: I live in it
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Post by yorkshireman on Jul 20, 2017 13:50:28 GMT
That's interesting buggerthebanks. Gold is arguably expensive at the mo, however I assume that you believe it will go higher pending possible forthcoming turmoil? Turd Ferguson (yes, the name is correct !) I guess that guy could be a bit of a s**t. Sorry, I couldn’t resist that, seriously I believe that gold has a place in every portfolio (5%-10%) as an "insurance" for the same reasons as buggerthebanks . p2pindependentforum.com/post/126835
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Post by lobster on Jul 20, 2017 16:29:09 GMT
Turd Ferguson (yes, the name is correct !) I guess that guy could be a bit of a s**t. Sorry, I couldn’t resist that, seriously I believe that gold has a place in every portfolio (5%-10%) as an "insurance" for the same reasons as buggerthebanks . p2pindependentforum.com/post/126835You may be interested to know that since the date of your linked post (6th July 2016) , Gold has fallen by 9.4% and Bitcoin has skyrocketed by 288% (both in GBP terms). Now I'm not saying that this trend is necessarily set to continue, and also take your point about there being a place for Gold in a balanced portfolio, but there's no denying that anyone who has held Bitcoin over the last year will be a very happy bunny. Unfortunately I'm not a member of that happy group !
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Post by pickles on Jul 20, 2017 16:49:21 GMT
Well, I would be a very happy bunny if the %ages were switched round:
P2P: 50% S&S ISA: 25% Rainy day fund (in premium bonds for easy access): 24% BitCoin: 1%
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Post by yorkshireman on Jul 20, 2017 17:36:03 GMT
You may be interested to know that since the date of your linked post (6th July 2016) , Gold has fallen by 9.4% and Bitcoin has skyrocketed by 288% (both in GBP terms). Now I'm not saying that this trend is necessarily set to continue, and also take your point about there being a place for Gold in a balanced portfolio, but there's no denying that anyone who has held Bitcoin over the last year will be a very happy bunny. Unfortunately I'm not a member of that happy group ! I’m only too well aware of the performance of gold vs bitcoin and also it’s price today compared with 2011! However, I take the same view as buggerthebanks that “debt-based monetary systems cannot endure forever” and believe that gold will prove to be good insurance when the next financial crisis occurs.
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Post by agent69 on Jul 20, 2017 19:30:30 GMT
Excluding property and DB pension scheme: - Stocks and shares (DC pension pot) - 50%
- Stocks and shares (ISA) - 25%
- Cash (ISA) - 10%
- P2P - 8%
- Cash (current accounts) - 7%
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lobster
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Post by lobster on Jul 20, 2017 21:49:31 GMT
I’m only too well aware of the performance of gold vs bitcoin and also it’s price today compared with 2011! However, I take the same view as buggerthebanks that “debt-based monetary systems cannot endure forever” and believe that gold will prove to be good insurance when the next financial crisis occurs. Fair enough, but against the expectation of many investors, Gold simply failed to provide much insurance at all during the 2007-08 financial crisis, never even making it past the $1,000 mark, which was a far cry from many of the astronomic predictions for the Gold price in such an eventuality. After all , many economists agree that the 2007-08 was the most serious financial crisis since the 1930's, and if that's not enough to light Gold's fire, then what is ?
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Post by macq on Jul 20, 2017 23:11:45 GMT
While many investment trusts have gone through the wall st crash,world wars & other crisis some financial and some not they have survived and are still around.Many of them hold gold as a safety net so there does seem a good reason to hold it.But not sure in a complete break down of the monetary system it would have the same impact due to the other problems we would be facing.But you would think with all the borrowing and govt. debt in the world that something has to give one day. As an oldie i do not really understand Bitcoin(only how much i could have made over the last couple of years)but seeing on the BBC today about a so called war within the Bitcoin community,can someone explain to me what stops it from becoming a Nokia or Kodak type of thing where some one invents a new currency and it becomes worthless?
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