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Post by spiker on Aug 14, 2017 7:32:56 GMT
Am I right in thinking that
Available Funds + Amount lent + Amount Bidding = Funding Circle total This is correct if I add up the data on screen.
But I know I put £x in my account, so I would have expected: x+ Net earnings = Funding Circle total
However the current 'Funding Circle total' is showing £19.77 greater than I expected (Not complaining as its free money) I think I read some time ago that this sometimes happens but gets corrected within 24 hours, Mine has been like this for about 4 days now...
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Post by blender on Aug 14, 2017 8:00:50 GMT
Yes you are right. These extra funds usually come from FC selling your loan part twice, which they still do occasionally. The 'correction in 24hrs' is the myth, it goes on for years, the fault has existed forever and FC have done nothing much about it, unless you ask them, or leave. It is best to deposit and withdraw in round numbers, so that the check you have done is easy, and the error is obvious (just comparing the last digits of all time earnings with those of total funds).
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Post by spiker on Aug 14, 2017 8:04:01 GMT
So if i tried to withdraw everything would they catch on to the error then?
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Post by archie on Aug 14, 2017 8:54:18 GMT
So if i tried to withdraw everything would they catch on to the error then? They blocked a withdrawal of mine due to balance reconciliation. In my case the system thought I had a trapped bid and refunded my transaction cost. I actually had an accepted bid and received interest on a loan part I hadn't paid for. When they spotted it I had long since sold the part. They only noticed once my balance was very low. It then took them several days and an email prompt to correct my account.
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Post by adrian77 on Aug 14, 2017 12:20:51 GMT
what's the problem - it's only your money !
I'm not worried by all these evident (and probably other as yet undiscovered) bugs but happy to know FC have a new font, a weird logo and is composed of ordinary people doing extra-ordinary things... not sure if that includes adding up correctly! To have a financial package with such errors is just incredible and points to unbelievably badly specified, written and tested software. It is not extraordinary to have a financial product that reconciles properly! Good job the FC staff aren't working in North Korea programming nuclear missiles!
I don't blame the staff as I have worked in fire-fighting environments myself as to whether the senior management have been dazzled by the golden readies I could not possibly comment
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Post by nick on Aug 14, 2017 13:33:53 GMT
My account has never reconciled for years but at least stabilised to an unexplained difference of £155 for over a year - until recently. For the last couple of weeks it has been moving all over the place from -£500 to +£500 when I perform my weekly reconciliations. I gave up on FC on fully reconciling my account years ago, but at least I though they had stopped further explained differences building up.
Any back office system that does not automatically account balances with movements in investments, cash and P&L is a nightmare waiting to happen. All modern systems should automatically reconcile - its double entry 101. All I hope for now is that my difference remains in the current range (and preferably in my favour) and doesn't blow out to leave a gaping unexplained black hole in my account......... Not being able to fully reconcile client accounts on a regular, consistent basis is not really acceptable for this type of business, particularly one that is meant to be regulated by the FCA.....
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Post by blender on Aug 14, 2017 13:39:35 GMT
My account has never reconciled for years but at least stabilised to an unexplained difference of £155 for over a year - until recently. For the last couple of weeks it has been moving all over the place from -£500 to +£500 when I perform my weekly reconciliations. I gave up on FC on fully reconciling my account years ago, but at least I though they had stopped further explained differences building up. Any back office system that does not automatically account balances with movements in investments, cash and P&L is a nightmare waiting to happen. All modern systems should automatically reconcile - its double entry 101. All I hope for now is that my difference remains in the current range (and preferably in my favour) and doesn't blow out to leave a gaping unexplained black hole in my account......... Not being able to fully reconcile client accounts on a regular, consistent basis is not really acceptable for this type of business, particularly one that is meant to be regulated by the FCA..... I can reconcile my opinion with yours on this. I think I know what went wrong: instead of sending the development team to double-entry 101, they sent them to Room 101, twice.
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Post by spiker on Aug 14, 2017 13:53:19 GMT
After posting this, the total has magically fixed itself today Big brother must be watching....
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Post by Stonk on Aug 14, 2017 14:46:42 GMT
I wish to register a complaint.
My Funding Circle numbers have always been absolutely spot on, reconciling to the penny every evening. Every single payment received and fee paid has been exactly as it should be. I have never managed to sell a loan part to multiple buyers.
Why have FC never given me any free money? What am I doing wrong?
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Post by blender on Aug 14, 2017 16:28:05 GMT
After posting this, the total has magically fixed itself today Big brother must be watching.... Magic definitely not involved, but it could be big sister monitoring, if your account can be identified from your name here. They may have taken away your free virtual money to give to stonk, for a while.
We here have two accounts, one £39.96 high and the other £34.46 high. We will see if that now disappears, and I would like it to go to stonk.
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Post by Stonk on Aug 15, 2017 20:11:35 GMT
We here have two accounts, one £39.96 high and the other £34.46 high. We will see if that now disappears, and I would like it to go to stonk.
Please don't - it will really mess up my beautifully balanced accounting! I would have to invent a new transaction type.
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Post by mikeb on Aug 20, 2017 19:59:12 GMT
You're clearly not watching them closely enough. Observe harder and you will see the gremlins at work I had an "account reconciliation problem" recently, some money went missing inexplicably from my total. I was told it was due to a loan part I'd bought on the SM ... (which I haven't, in a very long time) which somehow I hadn't paid for. Then I was told it was one I'd sold that had sold twice, and they were clawing back the error. Also wrong -- I had sold a small number of loan parts and saw each and every one of them off -- one entry-set on statement, one entry in "stuff you sold" page, one loan deleted from my personal spreadsheet, cash available increased by expected amount. If any had sold twice, I'd have noticed and been "up" by the amount of 1 loan. I wasn't. The amount missing did not correspond to any of the loan parts I did sell. Never did get a satisfactory explanation, so I came to the conclusion that they have no idea what happened, and won't/can't fix it. How P2P companies are allowed to run such shambolic accounting, I don't know. If it was a high street bank, it would be all over the news. But for P2P -- lift the carpet, sweep once, and continue.
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Post by william0101 on Sept 1, 2017 11:55:00 GMT
The casual attitude to accounting won't last long if FC open the gates to loadsa-new-folks *and* screw up the info they provide about what is getting invested where and where the magic of Bad Debts is accounted for. At some point an important person's accountant is going to notice that they are making accounting mistakes and then, as others have suggested, a "did you buy into a p2p scheme" adverts will start.
I'd prefer FC to get their accounting fixed before 18 Sep so that can't happen.
And there are quite a few things to be fixed looking at these threads.
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