ozboy
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Post by ozboy on Aug 15, 2017 18:32:46 GMT
I've also posted this under AC/Tax Returns:- Is there, ISTR, "problems" with HMRC's Online Filing this year (& last year?), particularly wrt inaccurate Calculations, and that wise peeps are very encouraged to submit a Paper Return this year if they want to ensure that their Tax Return is "right", and thereby avoid a ton of potential aggravation? Happy to be corrected by anyone In The Know who can vouchsafe for HMRC's Online Filing. And its Online Calculations as being accurate.
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Post by martin44 on Aug 15, 2017 19:35:27 GMT
I filed my 15/16 return with no mention of p2p returns as i pay tax on account, in my own mind i would have declared it the year after, however i received a letter from hmrc inviting me to revisit my return, written along the lines of, in their words "we receive information from companies who pay interest at gross rates without tax deducted" I contacted hmrc by phone and had a chat with them and explained my position, they then told me their's, ' so i revisited my return' and declared my income from p2p, as far as the calculations are concerned they were all correct as far as could see, 20% tax to pay on the income received. What i was not too happy about, as stated above, i pay tax on account, and they have automatically assumed that i will receive the same amount of income from p2p next year, and so i have had to pay another lump of tax on 31st July to cover what they perceive i will owe next year. Come my return in jan 18 i'm hoping for a lump back, or a lump 'off' my tax liability (Thanks to some good advice elsewhere) as my amounts in p2p have dropped by 50% ish, * AND I HAVE A BAD DEBT AT FUNDINGSECURE. I suppose i could have made an application for a reduction in my next years liability due to my change in circumstances, bet i'm not sure if i need the hassle. As for your original question, all seemed Ok to me, and all done online, barring the phone call. Hope this all makes sense..... tho i doubt it. *Edit.
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ozboy
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Post by ozboy on Aug 15, 2017 19:46:28 GMT
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Post by dan1 on Aug 15, 2017 20:09:23 GMT
I've also posted this under AC/Tax Returns:- Is there, ISTR, "problems" with HMRC's Online Filing this year (& last year?), particularly wrt inaccurate Calculations, and that wise peeps are very encouraged to submit a Paper Return this year if they want to ensure that their Tax Return is "right", and thereby avoid a ton of potential aggravation? Happy to be corrected by anyone In The Know who can vouchsafe for HMRC's Online Filing. And its Online Calculations as being accurate. ozboy this thread may be useful
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Post by ozboy on Aug 15, 2017 21:05:25 GMT
Thank you dan1, I am trying to make amends. My bottom is still sore.
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Post by david42 on Aug 15, 2017 21:39:41 GMT
... What i was not too happy about, as stated above, i pay tax on account, and they have automatically assumed that i will receive the same amount of income from p2p next year, and so i have had to pay another lump of tax on 31st July to cover what they perceive i will owe next year. Come my return in jan 18 i'm hoping for a lump back, or a lump 'off' my tax liability (Thanks to some good advice elsewhere) as my amounts in p2p have dropped by 50% ish, and I have a bed debt at Fundingsecure. I suppose i could have made an application for a reduction in my next years liability due to my change in circumstances, bet i'm not sure if i need the hassle. I made an application for a reduction in next year's tax on account because I am expecting a significant reduction in one source of income. The process was really easy. It was just one extra question at the end of my online text return. HMRC accepted my claim without question and reduced my tax on account.
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Post by ben53 on Aug 16, 2017 8:03:34 GMT
Anyone failing to declare their P2P earnings will be picked up by HMRC who now have data from P2P firms going back a few years and a super powerful Connect data mining software that will highlight disparities automatically.
"I filed my 15/16 return with no mention of p2p returns as i pay tax on account, in my own mind i would have declared it the year after" is the sort of ridiculous excuse that would often encourage HMRC to apply a penalty on top as well.
There's no excuse for anyone on these boards to not be aware they need to pay tax and to declare their income this year.
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Post by awk on Aug 16, 2017 8:28:53 GMT
The 'problem' with online HRMC submissions is limited to a few very specific situations. See link below for the full list. I think that items 51, 52 and 56 are the ones which will relate to p2p interest. www.sa2000.co.uk/2017-exc-indi.pdfThe online form calculates your tax BEFORE you actually submit the form. So, thinking that I may be impacted, I calculated my tax liabaility (or lack of it) before filling in the form. Their calculation was the same as mine, so I hit the button.
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Post by albermarle on Aug 16, 2017 10:18:11 GMT
I did my 16/17 return online yesterday. The only problem was that it dumped me out around 7 or 8 times ' system busy ' but each time was able to get straight back at the point where I left off. Apart from P2P issues, I find being able to see the tax calculation immediately very useful , as you can correct any errors you might have made there and then .
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Post by albermarle on Aug 16, 2017 10:22:06 GMT
I filled in my 16/17 return online yesterday. The only problem was that it dumped me out 7 or 8 times but then was able to get straight back in at the same point I left off. Apart from P2P issues , I generally like the fact that you can see your tax calculation straightaway, so you can pick up on any errors you might have made. In my experience the calculation is spot on .
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Post by corriefan on Aug 16, 2017 15:48:09 GMT
I fall into one of the categories that should be able to file a tax return online. But, being paranoid after hearing the experiences of other people, I worked my figures out first. They matched the online figure, so I was happy to go ahead.
I also record every penny of interest during the year and always declare it. The only time I have received the dreaded letter from HMRC was a few years ago when I misread my payslip. It didn't affect which tax bracket I fell into. So HMRC corrected my figure and let me know. I have been super careful since then.
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Post by stub8535 on Aug 16, 2017 16:02:26 GMT
Just had the advisory letter from my f.a. that hmrc now have data from an extra 100 jurisdictions round the World. Advisory is to declare anything missed on prior returns without waiting for the letter.
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