jlend
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Post by jlend on Sept 23, 2019 7:27:23 GMT
Labour showing their authoritarian side wrt education hereDefinitely agree with Ofsted being scrapped and replaced with something that supports teaching and learning. This is long overdue. Definitely agree something needs to be done. But I think more works needs to be done on what. The Labour policy includes a beefed up role for the local education authority. But in my experience most of the talent and capacity that was there has long since gone with the advent of more money going directly to schools, introduction of academies etc. There were also too many poor ex teachers in Local Education Authorities which schools often had little respect for. I havent personally heard a good word said about local authorities support for schools recently. Am yet to be convinced that building up Local Education Authorities will support improvements in teaching and learning.
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cb25
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Post by cb25 on Sept 23, 2019 8:46:28 GMT
I find a number of Labour's suggestions quite worrying. This is one, another is the 4-day week (for 5 days pay), because I could see them being attractive to millions of voters who might not realise possible repercussions. But it won't get them the ever increasing pensioner vote This might help get that vote: "Labour is promising free personal care in England for over-65s most in need of it, so they will not have to pay for help with dressing, washing and meals" ( BBC)
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JamesFrance
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Post by JamesFrance on Sept 23, 2019 9:17:37 GMT
Targetted bribes to groups of voters certainly worked for them last time. What student wouldn't vote for free university education?
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Post by baboonery on Sept 23, 2019 9:35:54 GMT
Targetted bribes to groups of voters certainly worked for them last time. What student wouldn't vote for free university education? Thank goodness that no other political party stoops to such underhand methods.
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adrianc
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Post by adrianc on Sept 23, 2019 9:48:13 GMT
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cb25
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Post by cb25 on Sept 23, 2019 9:53:47 GMT
That could be interesting. No sooner might the average middle-income Labour voter be saying "Good one John, hit the rich harder" than they'd add "hold on a minute John, that brings our property into IHT, that's not supposed to happen"
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Post by cb25 on Sept 23, 2019 10:04:09 GMT
Back to Brexit: "Unison to vote for 'back remain now' motion at Labour conference in blow to Corbyn" in the Guardian
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adrianc
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Post by adrianc on Sept 23, 2019 10:04:43 GMT
July saw them saying they'd bring the IHT threshold down from £475k to £125k.So it's basically just an interest-free loan against future IHT... That could be interesting. No sooner might the average middle-income Labour voter be saying "Good one John, hit the rich harder" than they'd add "hold on a minute John, that brings our property into IHT, that's not supposed to happen" ...and hands up who's surprised? Paying for more means taxing harder. There's a balance needs striking, because the social safety net is a vital part of living in a civilised country. At the moment, the pendulum's swung too far one way, through a few years of medium-hard-right government. A hard-left government would swing it too far back the other way.
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Post by scc on Sept 23, 2019 10:27:09 GMT
If I have to pay tax I'd rather pay it after I'm dead.
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adrianc
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Post by adrianc on Sept 23, 2019 10:58:41 GMT
Back to Brexit: "Unison to vote for 'back remain now' motion at Labour conference in blow to Corbyn" in the Guardian...and the latest update to that "live" Grauniad page...
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cb25
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Post by cb25 on Sept 23, 2019 12:41:09 GMT
On the BBC "Labour party members have voted to commit the party to integrate private schools into the state sector. The motion calls for funds and properties held by private schools to be "redistributed democratically and fairly" to other schools."
Sure, don't worry about the fact those are private assets, just steal them.
In the same article, "Universities would also have to admit the same proportion of private school students as in the wider population" - absolutely. Why would Universities want to let in a bright private school student, when they can let in a much thicker state school kid.
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Interesting BBC article on the subject "Could Labour really ban private schools?"
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Post by bracknellboy on Sept 23, 2019 12:51:47 GMT
On the BBC "Labour party members have voted to commit the party to integrate private schools into the state sector. The motion calls for funds and properties held by private schools to be "redistributed democratically and fairly" to other schools."
Sure, don't worry about the fact those are private assets, just steal them.
In the same article, "Universities would also have to admit the same proportion of private school students as in the wider population" - absolutely. Why would Universities want to let in a bright private school student, when they can let in a much thicker state school kid.
where's Michael Foot when you need him ?
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adrianc
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Post by adrianc on Sept 23, 2019 15:36:19 GMT
where's Michael Foot when you need him ? Leading the Labour party?
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Sept 23, 2019 16:01:32 GMT
On the BBC "Labour party members have voted to commit the party to integrate private schools into the state sector. The motion calls for funds and properties held by private schools to be "redistributed democratically and fairly" to other schools."
Sure, don't worry about the fact those are private assets, just steal them.
In the same article, "Universities would also have to admit the same proportion of private school students as in the wider population" - absolutely. Why would Universities want to let in a bright private school student, when they can let in a much thicker state school kid.
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Interesting BBC article on the subject "Could Labour really ban private schools?" Kay Burley has just had some poor Labour activist tying herself in knots over this ... total demolition job.
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Post by cb25 on Sept 23, 2019 16:15:18 GMT
On the BBC "Labour party members have voted to commit the party to integrate private schools into the state sector. The motion calls for funds and properties held by private schools to be "redistributed democratically and fairly" to other schools."
Sure, don't worry about the fact those are private assets, just steal them.
In the same article, "Universities would also have to admit the same proportion of private school students as in the wider population" - absolutely. Why would Universities want to let in a bright private school student, when they can let in a much thicker state school kid.
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Interesting BBC article on the subject "Could Labour really ban private schools?" Kay Burley has just had some poor Labour activist tying herself in knots over this ... total demolition job. Yougov are running a poll ( here), that includes the question "Would you support or oppose banning private schools". Currently showing 22% Support, 50% Oppose, 28% Don't know.
I suppose we're lucky Labour haven't caught up with new technology. I could imagine some lefty thinking they could insist each household with kids had an Amazon Echo installed, having paid Amazon to report phrases like the following "have you finished your homework?", "would you like me to read you a bedtime story?", "what did you learn in school today?" ... as each of them is a clear case of the parents trying to give their kids an unfair start in life.
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