keitha
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Post by keitha on Sept 24, 2021 16:05:38 GMT
the Government says no shortages
I needed petrol as down to 100 miles of range, queues at every station here in south Wales.
Watched the young ( mid 20’s ) woman in front of me fill up and it literally took less than a minute. When I got to the pump she’d put less than £4 into a Range Rover - Probably used that much driving to station filling up and driving home again. Seemed to be a lot of people putting £5 or £10 in, do these people not realise that a) People see a queue for fuel and will join it b) If everyone fills the tank when they normally run it at 1/2 that will cause shortages, and it is often the people who need it ( delivery drivers, NHS staff etc ) who don't have the time during the day to fill up who will not be able to get it.
I will say most of the people in the queue were 50+, and store staff were diverting shoppers to a back entrance to the car park to avoid the queue
Another point of interest the fuel price was up 3p a litre since last weekend, feels like profiteering to me.
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Post by rs on Sept 24, 2021 16:39:29 GMT
the Government says no shortages I needed petrol as down to 100 miles of range, queues at every station here in south Wales. Watched the young ( mid 20’s ) woman in front of me fill up and it literally took less than a minute. When I got to the pump she’d put less than £4 into a Range Rover - Probably used that much driving to station filling up and driving home again. Seemed to be a lot of people putting £5 or £10 in, do these people not realise that a) People see a queue for fuel and will join it b) If everyone fills the tank when they normally run it at 1/2 that will cause shortages, and it is often the people who need it ( delivery drivers, NHS staff etc ) who don't have the time during the day to fill up who will not be able to get it. I will say most of the people in the queue were 50+, and store staff were diverting shoppers to a back entrance to the car park to avoid the queue Another point of interest the fuel price was up 3p a litre since last weekend, feels like profiteering to me. Oh dear. If shortage has got to S Wales, i'm going to go now & fill up my tank & jerry.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2021 17:13:52 GMT
If you have to be in a Brexit environment then we need to have enough drivers. QED time to stop paying peanuts to exploited Eastern Europeans. I don't see anything for it but to up pay and training and accepting a little inflation.
I understand that the queues for electrical charging are as normal.
Having stupidly large FF cars on the road are just one more problem we don't need.
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keitha
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Post by keitha on Sept 24, 2021 22:24:39 GMT
It does seem to me that more and more people are buying big heavy gas guzzling cars.
I've recently bought a new car and amongst other reasons the lack of anything within 20 miles that would charge at more than 7kWh has resulted in me buying a ICE vehicle.
I can't charge at home as I have no off street parking and can be parked up to 400 yards away from the house.
So I have a fairly new Vauxhall Petrol having driven diesels for years, my 13 year old 308 Estate averaged over 60 MPG even with 190,000 on the clock, the Vauxhall is running at 46. I'd have expected a much newer car to be far more fuel efficient, but looking at it the new car appears to be less streamlined with a larger flat front end.
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Post by michaelc on Sept 26, 2021 11:35:37 GMT
I heard that some petrol stations were imposing a £30 limit. Wouldn't it be better if instead they imposed a £30 (or £50) minimum and no jerry cans ?
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Post by adrianc on Sept 26, 2021 15:46:42 GMT
I heard that some petrol stations were imposing a £30 limit. Wouldn't it be better if instead they imposed a £30 (or £50) minimum and no jerry cans ? Not everybody with a jerrycan is taking the mick. I filled a 10L jerrycan on Monday - some for the mower, the rest'll get mixed with 2T oil for the chainsaw, strimmer, hedgetrimmer etc. Round here, it's very common to see the person at the next pump filling their pickup or van or 4x4 with diesel and several 20L cans with petrol. As for a £30 or even £50 minimum - we have one car with a 20L capacity tank, and one with a 30L tank. And that's before considering motorbikes.
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Post by crabbyoldgit on Sept 26, 2021 15:52:08 GMT
jerry can ha, seriously yesterday i was down to 30 miles range put £40 in. The guy in front of me had one of those big plastic 4ft plus cube white containers you see to store water in horse fields in a trailer and he filled it with deisel. Hope it leaks.
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Post by travolta on Sept 26, 2021 16:55:49 GMT
Howmany times can you go around the block. Are they doing number plate recognition yet?
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Post by jj on Sept 26, 2021 20:03:51 GMT
With everything that is going on right now with the UK it does feel like we are about to revisit the 70's again with similar problems.
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Post by registerme on Sept 26, 2021 20:21:41 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58701620UK suspends competition law to allow fuel companies to work together to get fuel delivered to where it's needed. Which is sensible in the circumstances, but...
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Post by michaelc on Sept 26, 2021 20:27:31 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58701620UK suspends competition law to allow fuel companies to work together to get fuel delivered to where it's needed. Which is sensible in the circumstances, but... Can you spell it out in laymen's terms what this means?
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Post by registerme on Sept 26, 2021 20:37:44 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58701620UK suspends competition law to allow fuel companies to work together to get fuel delivered to where it's needed. Which is sensible in the circumstances, but... Can you spell it out in laymen's terms what this means? Previously if BP had got on the phone to Esso and said "we're short petrol in x, you could supply your station there and you'd make a killing" they'd be in breach of competition law. With this change they're not. But it does, I think, highlight how twitchy the government is about this (add in empty shelves, no turkeys for Christmas, and energy prices going through the roof etc).
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Post by bracknellboy on Sept 26, 2021 20:43:35 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58701620UK suspends competition law to allow fuel companies to work together to get fuel delivered to where it's needed. Which is sensible in the circumstances, but... Can you spell it out in laymen's terms what this means? Simples: companies that would in normal circumstances not be allowed to "co-operate", in order to prevent anti-competitive (i.e. anti consumer/pro supplier) practices, are now allowed to talk to each other. presumably to optimise geographical distribution of the supply that is available. This from a govt that apparently thinks that one of the mantras of brexit is that we can better unleash the power of commercial competition without the yoke of EU regulation and governance. No, I don't know what the *** that means either.
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Post by registerme on Sept 26, 2021 20:56:09 GMT
Can you spell it out in laymen's terms what this means? Simples: companies that would in normal circumstances not be allowed to "co-operate", in order to prevent anti-competitive (i.e. anti consumer/pro supplier) practices, are now allowed to talk to each other. presumably to optimise geographical distribution of the supply that is available. Or, as a friend of mine just suggested:- BP: "Got any drivers"? Shell: "lol no" BP: "same lol"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2021 7:45:37 GMT
When the Black Death visited Europe this was very much the same scene. Labour suddenly had the upper hand over capital, crops rotted in the fields, serfdom in many countries more or less collapsed and standards of work dropped as the unskilled moved into skilled jobs kickstarting major change and improvements in cities especially. I will not see the benefits of Covid but expect a fr few more shortages ofthings going forward, don't worry it happening all over the western world as stuff, the US has similar problems and they are not suffering from Brexit.
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