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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2021 17:43:16 GMT
ok I live a very quiet life, plus 2 years of Covid and a general preference to drinking coffee out of china cups etc.
Imagine my surprise when I asked a server in Greggs (a street food vendor) to remove the plastic lid she had just put on a paper cup of coffee. It turns out that this is impossible.
Using Facebook I have discovered that
1) They have to sell the cup with lids 2) I can use a reuseable cup to get the coffee and they reduce the price 3) That reuseable cup has to come from Greggs and has to have, not only a plastic body but also a plastic lid
At what point did the British become so wet and inured to plastic that they now have to have what looks like a baby's drinking mouth piece added to a simple cup of coffee?
While the Meldrew in me is getting a venting...
Luckily, nearly all the similar shops in my town offer a no lid option.
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Post by Ace on Nov 9, 2021 18:05:37 GMT
I recently asked for a cup without a lid (to save the plastic) at my local gym. I was told that they couldn't do that in case I spilt my drink on the way to my seat.
At my local Nero's the dishwasher was broken, so all drinks had to be served in takeaway cups. They had also ran out of cardboard sleeves, so my drink came double takeaway cupped with a compulsory plastic lid, even though it usually comes in a china cup without a lid. It was literally 2 steps to my table. They couldn't see the problem, "takeaway cups always have a lid".
I got the same look in both cases that I used to get when I tried to refuse a plastic bag in a shop. It made no sense to them because it was free.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2021 18:09:22 GMT
I thought Nero's was the tax dodger based in the Isle of Man
I especially like this "Paul Monaghan, chief executive of the Fair Tax Mark campaign group, said the firm's tax arrangements were “parasitic” and “insulting to the intelligence of the British people”"
long been on my list of boycotted companies
Greggs tried to explain to me that single-use was bad, but multiple use of a much bigger piece of plastic was good. I don't b.......
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Post by Ace on Nov 9, 2021 18:25:00 GMT
That's cruel. It was one of my 3 favourite cafés in my hometown 😭. I dare not mention the others just in case. I can't survive without a daily coffee.
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Post by mfaxford on Nov 9, 2021 23:20:03 GMT
Greggs tried to explain to me that single-use was bad, but multiple use of a much bigger piece of plastic was good. I don't b.......
If you can use it enough the multi use cup is potentially better than single use. But that's assuming you remember to take it with you each time so it gets enough uses. It would also be better if each shop would also accept the cups from any shop rather than only accepting their own brand re-useable mugs. This seem somewhat similar to the bags for life pain where you end up having a set of bags from each shop as they will only replace the ones with their name on them. No wonder on average they only get re-used a handful of times (Mine tend to last at least a year before being replaced but I've probably got 20 of them due to frequenting a variety of supermarkets).
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Post by travolta on Nov 10, 2021 9:27:28 GMT
Elf 'n Safe Tea.
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Post by mogish on Nov 10, 2021 10:06:36 GMT
Drink whisky... glass is fully recyclable.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2021 10:22:19 GMT
But does it come with a cover?
I've obtained a Greggs's equivelent reuseable mug and it weighs in at an impressive 120 grams. Now let's be fair and assume the technology has moved on a bit and the actual one weighs 100grams.
The little lid on an espresso (remember we are talking an espresso here) weighs in sub 0.25 grams (I don't trust my scales below 1/4 of a gram. That means you would have to reuse this mug 400 times to compare with using single use covers.
My conversation with Greggs has now gone cold with equal confusion on their and my part. They failed to understand that the words "reusable mug" does not mean "Greggs's reuseable mug" but hey they don't pay these people much.
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Post by macq on Nov 10, 2021 18:26:14 GMT
But does it come with a cover?
I've obtained a Greggs's equivelent reuseable mug and it weighs in at an impressive 120 grams. Now let's be fair and assume the technology has moved on a bit and the actual one weighs 100grams.
The little lid on an espresso (remember we are talking an espresso here) weighs in sub 0.25 grams (I don't trust my scales below 1/4 of a gram. That means you would have to reuse this mug 400 times to compare with using single use covers.
My conversation with Greggs has now gone cold with equal confusion on their and my part. They failed to understand that the words "reusable mug" does not mean "Greggs's reuseable mug" but hey they don't pay these people much.
Don't knock the staff - have you seen how much a sausage roll heating technician earns while you are looking at using the mug 400 times with regards the covers/lids,surely the good news is you also need to take in to account the 400 non-recycled plastic/wax coated cups (and possibly sleeves) not being used
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Post by travolta on Nov 10, 2021 18:47:38 GMT
Diversion
Have you noticed that hot food that is now cold is described as 'resting' in Greggspeak. e.g. 'Oh its been resting for 15mins or so. '
...ie cold steak slime slice .
I use old Gregg cups as slug traps, full of beer or cider. A good death, resting in peace.
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Post by adrianc on Nov 10, 2021 19:48:02 GMT
...a sausage roll heating technician... Is that a new euphemism for "microwave"? I've got a far better way to deal with the issue of Greggs' plastic disposal. Never go near the place in the first instance... (see also: McDogbits, Wetherspoons)
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Post by agent69 on Nov 10, 2021 20:31:59 GMT
ok I live a very quiet life, plus 2 years of Covid and a general preference to drinking coffee out of china cups etc.
Imagine my surprise when I asked a server in Greggs (a street food vendor) to remove the plastic lid she had just put on a paper cup of coffee. It turns out that this is impossible.
Using Facebook I have discovered that
1) They have to sell the cup with lids 2) I can use a reuseable cup to get the coffee and they reduce the price 3) That reuseable cup has to come from Greggs and has to have, not only a plastic body but also a plastic lid
At what point did the British become so wet and inured to plastic that they now have to have what looks like a baby's drinking mouth piece added to a simple cup of coffee?
While the Meldrew in me is getting a venting...
Luckily, nearly all the similar shops in my town offer a no lid option.
Look what happens when you don't put the lid on
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Post by Greenwood2 on Nov 10, 2021 20:58:04 GMT
I can't remember the last time I bought a coffee out, if I'm going out I take an insulated mug with me and maybe some picnic bits.
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Post by travolta on Nov 10, 2021 21:44:28 GMT
There are times when Greggs is the only Gwasanaethau option,especially in these covid times.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2021 10:09:54 GMT
I suspect I can take an espresso thrown in my face (11ml of warm liquid)
The conversation grows, The Prince or Wales (the circles I move in) runs a garden centre in Cornwall (you can see him on Thursday afternoons with his sleeves rolled up ;-) ). His cups and lids really are paper but waxed paper not plastised paper or plastic. It seems the Elf and Safety is not the issue, the cost is.
I'm not dissing the customer facing staff. I am very aware that Institutions often suffer from group-think and that needs bursting.
You can imagine my excitement when they have agreed to look into my "idea" of paper lids. Holding my breath.
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