michaelc
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Post by michaelc on Jul 26, 2022 19:27:29 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2022 8:13:23 GMT
Overthinking it
the BBC has a remit to educate and this looks like "nudge" theory to me being published very much on a quiet news day.
Propaganda is more complicated than this and has a different meaning
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Post by benaj on Jul 27, 2022 8:45:30 GMT
It’s true media has many ways to influence the way we live. TV, Radio, ads, Viral Videos, you name it.
The stuffs we usually receive are far from “propaganda.”
Propaganda is intentional manipulation of public opinion of unwanted agendas by removing other voices and mass broadcast the same unwanted agenda over and over again.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2022 8:57:10 GMT
I once worked for a safety-focused company, imagine safety-crazy and then think over the line.
Part of the induction was to watch a film about a study on the influence on driving skills of using a mobile phone, both hands free and holding
Both, yes both, had the same affect as being over the limit drunk.
We were banned from taking a call in the car and it was a disciplinary offence. Sensible people
The UK has a long history (something a born-citizen would know) of safety awareness training that many countries find slightly surprising.
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Post by keitha on Jul 27, 2022 10:43:27 GMT
I once worked for a safety-focused company, imagine safety-crazy and then think over the line.
Part of the induction was to watch a film about a study on the influence on driving skills of using a mobile phone, both hands free and holding
Both, yes both, had the same affect as being over the limit drunk.
We were banned from taking a call in the car and it was a disciplinary offence. Sensible people
The UK has a long history (something a born-citizen would know) of safety awareness training that many countries find slightly surprising.
In my last role I was mobile IT support. We as a team asked for hands free kits and were refused as they were "too expensive to install" in the company cars. We started putting the phone in the boot and only checking it when we had arrived on site. management actually threatened one of my colleagues with disciplinary action for not answering calls whilst travelling. the Union laughed at that it was a breach of Company Policy and the law to answer a call non hands free. Eventually we were supplied with hands free kits, but it was amazing how many calls still came through and people wanted us to"make a note of" some information, often getting snotty if we asked then to email the information. The best one was one manager who started ringing peoples personal mobiles if the company mobile was engaged, he got very short shrift from me on that and was told never to ring my personal mobile, when he continued to do so I blocked the office number.
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michaelc
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Post by michaelc on Jul 27, 2022 17:17:53 GMT
It’s true media has many ways to influence the way we live. TV, Radio, ads, Viral Videos, you name it. The stuffs we usually receive are far from “propaganda.” Propaganda is intentional manipulation of public opinion of unwanted agendas by removing other voices and mass broadcast the same unwanted agenda over and over again. Not so. According to Wikipedia (yes not the bible of dictionaries but well respected and peer-reviewed) Propaganda is communication that is primarily used to influence or persuade an audience to further an agenda,.....
The BBC should IMO not ever be trying to influence anyone about any subject. In fact, they should be striving not to.
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Post by registerme on Jul 27, 2022 17:36:02 GMT
The BBC should IMO not ever be trying to influence anyone about any subject. In fact, they should be striving not to. You think that the BBC encouraging people to obey the law, thereby reducing the risk of injury and death, is a bad thing?
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Post by adrianc on Jul 27, 2022 18:21:43 GMT
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Post by michaelc on Jul 27, 2022 18:44:38 GMT
Ahh...a promo. Another of my bugbears. Not too bad when its on a webpage as you can just ignore. Worst is when its on the telly when its essentially an advertisment . registerme said You think that the BBC encouraging people to obey the law, thereby reducing the risk of injury and death, is a bad thing?Clearly I do. Its a criminal offence for a reason and I can work out for myself that it is clearly wrong to do. And where do you draw the line at what you should or shouldn't be encouraged to do? How does one multi-quote by the way ?
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Post by adrianc on Jul 27, 2022 18:45:41 GMT
How does one multi-quote by the way ? BBCode tab in the reply page, then cut'n'paste.
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Post by starfished on Jul 27, 2022 19:13:19 GMT
Some may debate if still appropriate but we mustn't lose sight of what were the BBC's initial role (probably in that order):
To Inform, Educate, Entertain...
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Post by Greenwood2 on Jul 27, 2022 19:54:02 GMT
Ahh...a promo. Another of my bugbears. Not too bad when its on a webpage as you can just ignore. Worst is when its on the telly when its essentially an advertisment . registerme said You think that the BBC encouraging people to obey the law, thereby reducing the risk of injury and death, is a bad thing?Clearly I do. Its a criminal offence for a reason and I can work out for myself that it is clearly wrong to do. And where do you draw the line at what you should or shouldn't be encouraged to do? How does one multi-quote by the way ? I don't understand what the problem is. there was a horrendous accident and there is a program about it, surprise!
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Post by star dust on Jul 27, 2022 20:54:28 GMT
The BBC should IMO not ever be trying to influence anyone about any subject. In fact, they should be striving not to. You think that the BBC encouraging people to obey the law, thereby reducing the risk of injury and death, is a bad thing? <snip> How does one multi-quote by the way ?How does one multi-quote by the way ? BBCode tab in the reply page, then cut'n'paste. Or if they are all in the same thread: right hand cog wheel: <select post> post 1; <select post> post 2; <quote> final post - in the order you want them to appear, with as many posts as you want selected and the final one quoted.
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Post by benaj on Jul 28, 2022 11:36:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2022 12:00:02 GMT
"Not so. According to Wikipedia (yes not the bible of dictionaries but well respected and peer-reviewed)"
hilarious, peer-reviewed! Do you even know what that means? Wiki is a nice place to start but never a place to finish an argument as any editor can change it.
As an aside, it is worth noting that the UK have some of Europe's safest roads, and frankly if the BBC have a sneaky agenda to keep us all alive I am all for it.
Once again the Troll lobs an idea over the fence to see who will play with it. Don't feed trolls.
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