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Post by registerme on Oct 14, 2022 19:10:58 GMT
This is... well, no words necessary.
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Post by captainconfident on Oct 14, 2022 19:19:28 GMT
This is... well, no words necessary. I thought you'd gone to the pub?
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Post by registerme on Oct 14, 2022 19:22:15 GMT
This is... well, no words necessary. I thought you'd gone to the pub? Returned. Bought plonk on the way home. Anything to numb the pain.
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Post by mrk on Oct 14, 2022 19:33:09 GMT
Investors said the latest U-turn, in which the prime minister sacked chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng and ditched a centrepiece of last month’s “mini” Budget, will not be enough to restore confidence in British markets, sparking renewed speculation that the Bank of England will need to extend its emergency bond-buying intervention beyond Friday’s deadline.
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Post by Greenwood2 on Oct 14, 2022 19:38:35 GMT
Dear gawd, no. Just because Trussticle rates 11/10 on the incompetence scale doesn't mean a mere 9/10 should be exhumed... To some extent this a joke. but really I think Boris would be so much better. At least he has some character.
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Post by agent69 on Oct 14, 2022 19:40:40 GMT
Two PMs and three four Chancellors of the Exchequer in three and a half months. It's madness. We need a GE. Now. www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.htmlIf there were to be an election tomorrow, the most recent prediction is C:85, L:471...and that's from the 6th, just over a week ago. Which is why we won't be seeing an election any time soon.
Unfortunately the system is a mess as leaders of the 2 main parties aren't electd by the MP's (who the leader expects undying support from), they are elected by the rank and file, who often don't share the views of the MP's.
I guess the question is which will cause least damage to the party, keeping Truss or getting rid of her. Can't see another 6 week leadership contest being very popular. More likely the great and good of the party decide who takes over, and then lean on anyone who suggest they might challenge then. That way the new PM is unopposed (a bit like how Gordon Brown got into office).
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Post by registerme on Oct 14, 2022 19:41:59 GMT
Which is why we won't be seeing an election any time soon.
Unfortunately the system is a mess as leaders of the 2 main parties aren't electd by the MP's (who the leader expects undying support from), they are elected by the rank and file, who often don't share the views of the MP's.
I guess the question is which will cause least damage to the party, keeping Truss or getting rid of her. Can't see another 6 week leadership contest being very popular. More likely the great and good of the party decide who takes over, and then lean on anyone who suggest they might challenge then. That way the new PM is unopposed (a bit like how Gordon Brown got into office).
tbh I don't give a fig about the party, I care about the country.
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Post by agent69 on Oct 14, 2022 20:22:06 GMT
Which is why we won't be seeing an election any time soon.
Unfortunately the system is a mess as leaders of the 2 main parties aren't electd by the MP's (who the leader expects undying support from), they are elected by the rank and file, who often don't share the views of the MP's.
I guess the question is which will cause least damage to the party, keeping Truss or getting rid of her. Can't see another 6 week leadership contest being very popular. More likely the great and good of the party decide who takes over, and then lean on anyone who suggest they might challenge then. That way the new PM is unopposed (a bit like how Gordon Brown got into office).
tbh I don't give a fig about the party, I care about the country. Unfortunately there are 365 conservative MP's who have a different order of priorities.
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Post by bracknellboy on Oct 14, 2022 20:58:12 GMT
This is... well, no words necessary. Live, I listened to sound only. Looking at the actual broadcast, its not the car crash I thought it was: its a 48 ton juggernaut running at high speed into an immovable slab of rock. Oh, and the CD is still stuck second time around. I'm wondering whether there is a pull cord in the back, and every time someone asks a question the invisible person behind her pulls the cord.
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Post by bracknellboy on Oct 14, 2022 21:00:40 GMT
Dear gawd, no. Just because Trussticle rates 11/10 on the incompetence scale doesn't mean a mere 9/10 should be exhumed... To some extent this a joke. but really I think Boris would be so much better. At least he has some character. I doubt the governance would be any better, but the press conferences sure would be better. Plus the parties in No. 10 would be a rip snorter compared to what's probably going on there at the moment.
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Post by registerme on Oct 14, 2022 21:28:31 GMT
Live, I listened to sound only. Looking at the actual broadcast, its not the car crash I thought it was: its a 48 ton juggernaut running at high speed into an immovable slab of rock. Oh, and the CD is still stuck second time around. I'm wondering whether there is a pull cord in the back, and every time someone asks a question the invisible person behind her pulls the cord. There's a part of me that feels sorry for her. The roasting she is getting makes me feel more than a little uncomfortable. Yes, hands up, I've played my own, very minor, part in that. But my god, she, and the government she leads, are so woefully out of their depth, so astonishingly out of touch, so awe despairingly (heh, that maybe the first time I've gone with a spell checker suggestion) incompetent. And everything they do doubles down on it. (to be fair, I've been calling it for years now) If this was a David Attenborough wildlife programme we'd watch, enthralled, and spout something trite like "but that's nature", as hyenas took down an isolated, sickly, old individual. But this is >>not<< "nature". This is torpedoing your own ship and then strapping yourself to the mast. No mind to the others on board. Italy has a more stable government than we do. I haven't checked but I wouldn't be surprised if their bonds weren't trading better than ours. That will likely stick in a few throats :/. As for bringing Johnson back - "lol". What this country needs is a boring, stable, competent government. One that is, simply, honest. No platitudes, no excuses, no whataboutism, no gaslighting, no ideology, no culture wars, no sunlit Elysium highlands. And long on expertise and explanation. You might say "back to basics".
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Post by bernythedolt on Oct 14, 2022 21:39:34 GMT
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Post by registerme on Oct 14, 2022 21:56:49 GMT
Couldn't agree more. I doubt I'd ever have been aligned, ideologically, with Sunak (though I'd certainly have been closer to him than the empty vessel that Truss is, particularly when she's filled by ERG / IEA nonsense) but at least he's not completely clueless. Remember a month or so back when people were saying "oh but Sunak is politically naive"? Well... bernythedolt there's much we don't agree on, politically, but I agreed with you then and I agree with you now.
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Post by mrk on Oct 14, 2022 21:58:58 GMT
Italy has a more stable government than we do. I haven't checked but I wouldn't be surprised if their bonds weren't trading better than ours. Correct. (For the 5-year term at least.)
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Post by michaelc on Oct 14, 2022 21:59:23 GMT
I think the main reason was he was seen to bring down the PM to further his own career. And now look where we are....
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