ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on May 22, 2018 10:20:40 GMT
The following is for information purposes only & does not constitute any advice on whether loans are eligible for loss relief. Lenders should consult HMRC guidance on criteria and/or a professional advice
* LPA/fixed charge reciever appointed/placed in administration Offical or third party reference. Loans directly to Lendy which are not P2P & therefore appear ineligible for loss relief against income
Loans where administrators have indicated no further recoveries possible so may be eligible for loss relief as declared as irrecoverable by platform (see appendices in 4th/6th/7th administrators progress report)
Sums pending from PI claims are subject to the court confirming determining who is the proper recipient of the funds and these funds may be due to Lendy & creditors not lenders. funds due to lenders. Loan
| Legal Recovery*
| Verified
| Evidence to support
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| PBL027
| Y 2020-21
| Y
| Receivers consulted but not appointed. Lendy in administration, model 1 terms so Lendy the borrower CH Receiver appointed 24/7/20, Liquidator 6/1/21
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| PBL031
| Y 2017-18
| Y
| Lendy update - Receivers 'appointed' 28/4/17, possession order granted 17/1/18, Lendy in administration, model 1 terms so Lendy the borrower
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| PBL037/38/39/69/70/71
| Y 2016-17
| Y
| Lendy updates - receivers involved, 2 borrowing companies, CH reciever appointed over corporate borrowers, 19/9/16, compulsory liquidation both 20/9/17. Individual borrower made bankrupt 25/7/16 Partial recovery 2021-22
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| PBL056
| Y 2016-17
| Y
| Lendy updates - receivers managing sale 30/9/16, CH receiver appointed 19/9/16, partial recovery 2017-18
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| PBL064
| Y 2016-17*
| Y
| Lendy update - receiver involved 7/7/17, CH receiver appointed 30/10/16 (filed Mar 17), CH another receiver 8/11/17 (*paperwork filed 2017-18) partial recovery 2018-19, partial recovery 2019-20
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| PBL065
| Y 2017-18
| N
| Lendy update - receiver involved 6/7/17, partial recovery 2017-18 Funds from PI claim pending
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| PBL066
| Y
| -
| Ineligible full capital recovery
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| PBL067
| Y
| -
| Ineligible full capital recovery
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| PBL068
| Y 2017-18
| Y
| Lendy update - receiver involved 21/7/17, possession order 8/1/18, possession taken 11/9/18. Receiver named in sale/auction particulars partial recovery 2018-19 Funds from PI claim pending
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| PBL074
| Y
| -
| Inelligible full capital recovery
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| PBL081
| Y 2017-18
| N
| Lendy update - Receiver involved 23/6/17, partial recovery 2018-19 Funds from PI claim pending
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| PBL084
| Y 2018-19
| Y
| Administration appointment pending 6/7 CH administrators appointed 18/7 Partial recovery 2022-23
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| PBL094
| Y 2017-18
| N
| Lendy update - Receiver appointed 14/4/17, partial recovery 2017-18, partial recovery 2018-19 Funds from PI claim pending
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| PBL095
| Y 2017-18
| Y
| Lendy update - Administrator appointed 2/2/18, CH administrator appointed 16/1/18, appointment defective, rectified by court 27/4/18 partial recovery 2020-21
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| PBL101/102
| Y 2017-18
| N
| Lendy update - seeking possession of property 23/11/18, loan to individual
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| PBL103
| N
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| Not in recovery Refinanced, unclear whether any capital loss has resulted, only eligible if declared by platform. Deferred payment pending
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| PBL106
| Y (2018-19
| Y
| CH Administrators appointed 16/1/19 partial recovery 2020-21
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| PBL123
| Y
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| Ineligible full capital recovery
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| PBL137
| N
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| Reference to legal proceedings but now working with borrower. Being sold by agents as agreed with borrower. Sold, loss needs to be declared by platform partial recovery 2020-21
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| PBL147
| Y
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| Inelligible full capital recovery
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| PBL155
| Y (2017-18)
| Y
| Lendy update - 29/9/17 Reciever formally appointed, partial capital recovery 2017-18, references to sale by receiver in press, named in auction/sale particulars. Funds from PI claim pending
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| PBL156
| Y (2018-19)
| Y
| Administrator appointed CH/gazette 15/1/19
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| PBL157
| Y (2017-18)
| Y
| Loan to individual Reciever referred to in sales particulars
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| PBL158
| Y (2017-18)
| Y
| Loan to individual Receiver referred to in sales particulars
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| PBL161
| Y (2017-18)
| Y | Lendy update - 14/9/17 Receiver appointed (Admin report 6). Loan to individual, made bankrupt. (No record on IIR) Partial recovery 2018-19 Funds from PI claim pending
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| PBL163
| Y (2018-19)
| Y
| Lendy update - 1/11/18 Administrator appointment pending CH Administrator appointed 22/10/18 Partial recovery 2018-19, 19-20
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| PBL164
| Y (2018-19)
| Y
| Lendy update - 1/11/18 Administrator appointment pending CH Administrator appointed 22/10/18 Partial recovery 2019-20
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| PBL166
| Y (2018-19)
| Y
| Administration appointment pending 6/7 CH Administrator appointed 18/7/18
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| PBL167
| Y (2017-18)
| Y
| Lender update - 1/3/18 Administrator appointed CH Aministrator appointed 23/2/18 Partial recovery 2018-19
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| PBL177
| Y (2018-19)
| Y
| Lender update - 3/8/18 Receiver appointed. Sold at auction by receiver 28/3/19 Partial recovery 2019/20
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| PBL178
| Y (2018-19)
| Y
| Lender update - 3/8/18 Receiver appointed. Sold at auction by receiver 28/3/19 Partial recovery 2019/20
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| PBL179
| Y (2018-19)
| Y
| Lender update - 3/8/18 Receiver appointed. Sold at auction by receiver 25/10/18 Partial recovery 2018-19
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| PBL193
| Y (2018-19)
| Y
| Lender update - 1/10/18 Receiver appointed. CH Receiver appointed 11/9/18 Partial recovery 2019/20 Funds from PG pending
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| PBL196
| N
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| Refinanced?, loss needs to be declared by platform |
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| PBL197
| N
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| Refinanced? loss needs to be declared by platform |
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| PBL199
| Y (2019-20)
| Y
| Suspended due to material uncertainty with borrower group. Receivers appointed CH 16/9/19
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| PBL200 | Y (2020-21) | Y | Receivers appointed CH 9/7/20 Partial recovery 2021-22 |
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| PBL201
| Y (2019-20)
| Y
| Suspended due to material uncertainty with borrower group. Receivers appointed CH 16/9/19
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| DFL001 | Y (2017-18)
| N
| Lendy update - 15/9/17 Receiver appointed. Loan to individual.
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| DFL002
| Y (2017-18)
| Y
| Lendy update - 15/9/17 Receiver appointed. CH Reciever appointed over GF leasehold units 11/09/17, leasehold 11/09/17
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| DFL003
| Y (2018-19)
| Y
| Suspended Gazette adminstrators appointed 28/3/19
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| DFL004
| Y (2018-19)
| Y
| Lendy update - 3/12/18 Administrator appointed Gazette/CH administrators appointed 12/11/18
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| DFL005
| Y (2019-20)
| Y
| Gazette - administrators appointed 10/5/19 Partial recovery 2022-23 Funds from PI claim pending
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| DFL006
| Y (2018-19)
| Y
| Administrator appointed CH/Gazette 17/1/19 Partial recovery 2022-23
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| DFL007
| Y (2018-19)
| Y
| Suspended - Gazette administrators appointed 14/1/19 partial recovery 2020-21
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| DFL010
| Y (2019-20) | Y
| Recievers appointed CH 8/11/19 Partial recovery 2021-22 |
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| DFL012
| Y (2018-19)
| Y
| Lendy update - 27/6 Administrator appointed Gazette/CH administration 29/6/18 Partial recovery 2019-20 Deferred payment pending
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| DFL013
| Y(2018/19)
| Y
| Administrator appointed CH/Gazette 17/1/19 partial recovery 2020-21
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| DFL014
| N
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| Refinanced, loss needs to be declared by platform. |
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| DFL015
| Y(2019/20)?
| Y | Lendy update - looking to appoint LPA receivers, 1/11/18 legals seeking vacant possession. 7/19 Possession order granted. Loan to individual.
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| DFL016
| Y (2017-18)
| Y
| Lendy update - 12/12/17 LPA Receiver appointed. CH Reciever appointed 5/12/17 Partial repayment 20/21
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| DFL017
| Y (2017-18)
| Y
| Lendy update - 10/11/17 LPA Receiver appointment. Overseas borrower company. Fixed charge receivers named in sale particulars. Partial repayment 20/21
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| DFL019
| Y (2019-20)
| Y
| Administrator appointed CH/Gazette 5/9/19 partial recovery 2020-21 Funds from PI claim pending
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| DFL020
| Y (2018-19)
| Y
| Administrator appointed CH/Gazette 17/1/19 Partial recovery 2019-20
| DFL022
| Y (2018/19)
| Y
| Suspended Gazette Administrator appointed 29/3/19
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| DFL021
| N
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| Refinanced. Loss needs to be declared by platform. Deferred payment pending |
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| DFL024
| Y (2019-20)
| Y
| Receivers appointed CH 16/9/19 Partial recovery 2022-23
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| DFL025
| Y (2108-19)
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| Capital shortfall agreed by Lendy, provision fund used to repay shortfall minus interest received. Loss declared by Lendy
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| DFL029
| N
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| DFL031
| N
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| Lendy update - 11/4/19 Demand made & recovery initiated. Receivers do not appear to have been appointed and loan refinanced, loss needs to be declared by platform
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| DFL032
| N
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| Repaid |
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| DFL033
| Y (2019-20)
| Y
| Suspended due to material uncertainty with borrower group. Administrators appointed gazette 16/9/19 Partial recovery 2020-21
| DFL034
| N
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| Refinanced, loss needs to be declared by platform ... deferred payments pending | DFL035
| Y(2018-19)
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| Capital shortfall agreed by Lendy, provision fund used to repay shortfall minus interest received. Loss declared by Lendy
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| DFL037
| N
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| Refinanced, loss needs to be declared by platform ... deferred payments pending |
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Post by portlandbill on May 22, 2018 12:16:18 GMT
excuse my ignorance but does this mean I can (try to) offset my interest against my current holding in the suspended DFL017
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Post by mrclondon on May 22, 2018 12:38:31 GMT
If "verified' is taken to mean evidence from outside of Lendy to support the proposition that legal recovery has commenced, then DFL017 could be considered as verified by virtue of the marketing of the charged security which states "On the instruction of xxxxx and xxxxxx of Allsop LLP acting as Joint Fixed Charge Receivers"
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on May 22, 2018 12:43:23 GMT
If "verified' is taken to mean evidence from outside of Lendy to support the proposition that legal recovery has commenced, then DFL017 could be considered as verified by virtue of the marketing of the charged security which states "On the instruction of xxxxx and xxxxxx of Allsop LLP acting as Joint Fixed Charge Receivers"
Thanks. Forgot to add that clearly.
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Post by Ace on May 22, 2018 15:30:05 GMT
Good work, but date on PBL 101/102 looks a bit suspect.
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on May 22, 2018 16:30:01 GMT
Good work, but date on PBL 101/102 looks a bit suspect. You have to try & interprete the Lendy speak as there are a lot of aspirations & intentions. I've tried to pick the update that is in the 'done' tense rather the 'doing' tense but happy to consider alternative suggestions.
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Post by rocky1 on May 22, 2018 16:33:59 GMT
why cant lendy just do things properly instead of all this messing about. from start to to finish they duck in and out of every issue that is put to them. if they declare to hmrc that we have made no losses yet it is hard to prove other wise.what a bloody joke of a company.lendy cant you get anything right its true what they say BS baffles brains and you are masters of it.well done again.
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Post by nick on May 22, 2018 18:36:36 GMT
why cant lendy just do things properly instead of all this messing about. from start to to finish they duck in and out of every issue that is put to them. if they declare to hmrc that we have made no losses yet it is hard to prove other wise.what a bloody joke of a company.lendy cant you get anything right its true what they say BS baffles brains and you are masters of it.well done again. I don't believe Lendy (or any other platform) report any loss figures to HMRC. It is for individuals to elect (or not) to net qualifying losses against income or to default to treating them as capital losses. However, I agree it would be useful for Lendy to give a schedule of loans that could qualify for loss relief and write-backs from previous periods as they best placed in terms of info in making such a determination and would save us a lot of work attempting to do it ourselves. classify
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on May 22, 2018 22:55:29 GMT
why cant lendy just do things properly instead of all this messing about. from start to to finish they duck in and out of every issue that is put to them. if they declare to hmrc that we have made no losses yet it is hard to prove other wise.what a bloody joke of a company.lendy cant you get anything right its true what they say BS baffles brains and you are masters of it.well done again. I don't believe Lendy (or any other platform) report any loss figures to HMRC. It is for individuals to elect (or not) to net qualifying losses against income or to default to treating them as capital losses. However, I agree it would be useful for Lendy to give a schedule of loans that could qualify for loss relief and write-backs from previous periods as they best placed in terms of info in making such a determination and would save us a lot of work attempting to do it ourselves. classify I think platforms report the net figure ie interest earned minus losses from loans declared as becoming irrecoverable. SAIM12120 says there is no requirement to claim relief offsetting interest from loans on the same platform as it will be given automatically so those figures must be provided. Lenders do have to claim any losses that they wish to offset against interest earned on a different platform & any losses that they are offseting by treating loans as irrecoverable via a tax return (& can only do it via a tax return)
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Post by nick on May 23, 2018 8:07:26 GMT
I don't believe Lendy (or any other platform) report any loss figures to HMRC. It is for individuals to elect (or not) to net qualifying losses against income or to default to treating them as capital losses. However, I agree it would be useful for Lendy to give a schedule of loans that could qualify for loss relief and write-backs from previous periods as they best placed in terms of info in making such a determination and would save us a lot of work attempting to do it ourselves. classify I think platforms report the net figure ie interest earned minus losses from loans declared as becoming irrecoverable. SAIM12120 says there is no requirement to claim relief offsetting interest from loans on the same platform as it will be given automatically so those figures must be provided. Lenders do have to claim any losses that they wish to offset against interest earned on a different platform & any losses that they are offseting by treating loans as irrecoverable via a tax return (& can only do it via a tax return) The point I trying to make is that claiming loss relief against income is an individual choice and one that needs to be chosen by the individual (by providing a net income figure in their tax return). If loss relief against income is not elected, then the loss should be reported as a capital loss which can be set against capital gains. Thus the treatment of losses and affect on income or capital gains is a choice determined by the individual (although current tax rates make it favourable to claim relief against income versus capital gains in most situations). In addition, P2P income is reported in aggregate with other various other interest (gilt-edged and other uk securities, deeply discounted securities and accrued income profits) and not as a standalone amount in self assessment returns. For these reason net income figures reported by platforms will not necessarily tie back to amounts reported in self assessment tax returns. HMRC use the gross interest figures reported by platforms in the first instance as a reasonableness check to gauge whether income figures reported in self assessment return are complete and not immaterially understated rather than expect figures to tie back precisely unlike PAYE and pension figures which should tie back to the penny. Whilst there is no legal requirement for platforms to provide interest and eligible loss figures for each tax year and the potential timing issue of assessing whether loans are irrecoverable, their provision obviously makes it a lot easier for lenders to complete their tax returns without having to analyse the underlying data themselves and provides strong support for figures reported in tax returns should a query ever be raised by HMRC.
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Post by mrclondon on Nov 30, 2018 23:18:32 GMT
Three for the next table update ilmoro
DFL004 CH admin wef 12 Nov 2018 PBL193 CH admin wef 11 Sep 2018 PBL163/164 CH admin wef 22 Oct 2018
I've also stickied the thread.
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Post by masquedefer on Dec 1, 2018 5:41:55 GMT
Thank you for this most useful table.
As an aside one of the posters above mentions using the capital losses to back claim against p2p tax paid in previous years. I thought losses could only be used in the year of loss or carried forward (for 4 years?) and used against future p2p interest income. What is permitted here?
The carry forward rule also raises another question. If a loan failure is established in one year then do you have the freedom during 4 years to offset it as you wish either against p2p interest or a capital gain? Also after 4 years can you then still record unused losses as a capital gain loss to be used in any future year thereafter?
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Post by grotdog on Dec 12, 2018 20:24:57 GMT
Brilliant work - thanks - and just goes to show that Lendy are heading for damn near 100% failure. At what point do you write everything off, in the face of monthly "Legal proceedings to recover the outstanding capital, accrued interest and bonus accrual are progressing and an update will be provided as and when we are able." Clearly Lendy are doing nothing - we need a way to force the clown running it to give full updates on legal proceedings - month after month posting the same update is complete bull - something is happening - or they simply do not have any lawyers working on the case and its all a bunch of lies. Which is it Liam, or whoever you have aliased on this site this time?
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Post by Mucho P2P on Dec 13, 2018 22:58:34 GMT
Brilliant work - thanks - and just goes to show that Lendy are heading for damn near 100% failure. At what point do you write everything off, in the face of monthly "Legal proceedings to recover the outstanding capital, accrued interest and bonus accrual are progressing and an update will be provided as and when we are able." Clearly Lendy are doing nothing - we need a way to force the clown running it to give full updates on legal proceedings - month after month posting the same update is complete bull - something is happening - or they simply do not have any lawyers working on the case and its all a bunch of lies. Which is it Liam, or whoever you have aliased on this site this time? I just do not find the clown very funny, nor does he seem to be doing much of an efficient job running it.
Talking of which, has Liam ever run anything the size and complexity of Lendy, or even half the size of Lendy previously in his life? What experience does he have??
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Post by p2plender on Dec 14, 2018 3:24:16 GMT
Don't be nasty, clowns bring joy and laughter not misery and failure.
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