blender
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Post by blender on Aug 11, 2022 7:30:41 GMT
The text at the bottom of the RNS relating to the disposal of *** Ltd reads "The information contained within this announcement is deemed by the Company to constitute inside information as stipulated under the Market Abuse Regulations (EU) No. 596/2014. Upon the publication of this announcement via a Regulatory Information Service, this inside information is now considered to be in the public domain." The RNS was 18 July, the change of control was 7 July. By writing about the change of control at +++ Ltd that happened on 2 Aug (merely by pointing to the public record at Companies House), what - if any - are the implications WRT inside information? None (but note that the borrower has not changed and is neither of those mentioned, and the borrower is responsible for repaying the loan, whatever happens to the secured assets)
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Post by blender on Aug 11, 2022 14:49:13 GMT
We are lucky if we are told what has been done by the borrower, without the detail. No chance of understanding why. Ablrate holds a charge over the companies and so they cannot be sold without the charge, and not at all without Ablrate agreeing to the sale, I think. He only paid £1 for the portal company and he does not have to make the repayments on the loan - that is for the borrower to do. I assume he does not have to make conditional payments to the borrower. So if it trades and makes cash he is ok, and he is increasing the value of the Ablrate asset. Problems come if Abl default the loan, but then he might buy the company at the market value, which will be low. Presumably the borrower no longer wishes to have these companies within their group ownership. Doesn't look good for lenders.
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Post by Balder on Aug 24, 2022 15:06:06 GMT
Any bets on catch up payments by the end of August?
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Post by p2pfan on Aug 24, 2022 16:01:00 GMT
Any bets on catch up payments by the end of August? I've lost faith in all ABL borrowers. Even the small ratio that were reliable payers aren't paying any more and giving excuses e.g. today's update RE: 138 (LAR) states they are not "in a position to pay today's interest". Big mistake I made was not borrowing money from ABL supposedly to invest in my business but in actuality to buy a Lamborghini and fly business class around the world as all these borrowers and the heads of P2P platforms do, as I'd never have to pay the loan back blaming it on Brexit, Covid etc.
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Post by r1200gs on Aug 25, 2022 9:27:52 GMT
Any bets on catch up payments by the end of August? I've lost faith in all ABL borrowers. Even the small ratio that were reliable payers aren't paying any more and giving excuses e.g. today's update RE: 138 (LAR) states they are not "in a position to pay today's interest". Big mistake I made was not borrowing money from ABL supposedly to invest in my business but in actuality to buy a Lamborghini and fly business class around the world as all these borrowers and the heads of P2P platforms do, as I'd never have to pay the loan back blaming it on Brexit, Covid etc. Borrowers smell blood. As an aside, across the platforms I have used, I worked out that less than one in ten paid off their loans as they were supposed to, and the one where I got a full recovery by sale of asset is frozen while another investor in the platform tries legal trickery and deep pockets to claim priority over my recovered funds. I curse the day I ever heard of peer to peer. I think we all know where this is headed. And yes, many people have done very well out of the hundreds of millions poured in to peer to peer. Platform owners, borrowers that never pay back, lawyers, administrators on £600 an hour..... lenders are rarely in that group. I might as well have donated my money to a worthy charity.
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Post by Badly Drawn Stickman on Aug 27, 2022 9:47:25 GMT
I posted on the due diligence board regarding the coincidence that the PG holder for the first tranche of the shoes loan shares the same surname as the acquirer of two companies from this engineering plc. There was never much more than a cigarette paper between the bulk of loans and borrowers, so in truth i did not find it very surprising. Although i applaud your investigative skills anyway. It is now looking highly unlikely that the promised bringing up to date of this loan by the end of this month (August) will happen. Then Ablrate missing a self proclaimed deadline is anything but breaking news. I am clearly not alone in wondering where Ablrate's true interests sit currently, only action will tell us, sadly his words have somewhat lost credibility. That it will be a long slow process is the only thing I am sure about.
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Post by blueblazer on Aug 28, 2022 12:06:09 GMT
More info on the DD thread that, to my mind at least, goes even further towards establishing that there are indeed relevant connections between the names & addresses involved. Been trying to get on the DD threads, especially with the current situation at ABL.
Followed the instructions and sent a message to 'Admin' a few weeks ago having reached the required 50 posts.
No reply, and if you click on 'Admin' it says last online August 4th.
Have the forum admins done a runner as well?
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Aug 28, 2022 13:52:57 GMT
Admin is the generic name, admins may log on under different user ids. Hopefully star dust will see your plea and consider it, but yeah, most of us have retired to real life much of the time. The dd stuff on these loans will only depress you anyway.
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Post by Badly Drawn Stickman on Aug 30, 2022 16:01:22 GMT
Race against the calendar could be close then.
Sounds promising for 'this week'.
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Post by Ace on Aug 30, 2022 16:19:00 GMT
Race against the calendar could be close then. Sounds promising for 'this week'. But at the expense of selling off an unspecified amount of our security to pay the overdue interest! Or have I misunderstood?
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Post by Badly Drawn Stickman on Aug 30, 2022 16:22:48 GMT
Race against the calendar could be close then. Sounds promising for 'this week'. But at the expense of selling off an unspecified amount of our security to pay the overdue interest! Or have I misunderstood? It clearly sounds that way. presumably what was remaining from selling the poundshop stuff?
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Post by hubert on Aug 30, 2022 16:49:41 GMT
Is it our own capital return paying the interest though ?
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Post by travolta on Aug 30, 2022 20:41:01 GMT
Could this be a 'YAY!!' moment ?
Or as close to one as anything in P2P?
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Post by ablrate on Aug 31, 2022 8:11:27 GMT
Is it our own capital return paying the interest though ? If one of my theories about the identity of the buyer is correct, it might be connected to late payments on 138/157. Then what? The tenuous link is purely coincidental.
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Post by blender on Aug 31, 2022 8:38:12 GMT
It's good news about the expected catching up with repayments on these loans. Nice to have something to buck the trend.
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