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Post by martin44 on Apr 22, 2023 18:03:02 GMT
Just Stop Oil shocked by jail sentences handed out to guilty protesters - normal people amazed that Courts have actually punished lawbreakers Couldnt have happened to a nicer couple.
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Post by martin44 on Apr 22, 2023 19:58:39 GMT
just had 28 solar panels fitted to our factory, 3 weeks ago, now trying to get the feed in part sorted... nightmare ... and worth vertually nil. edit.... just out of a point of interest.. my home electric tarriff is 30pkwh my business tarrif is 45pkwh ........ why?
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Post by keitha on Apr 22, 2023 20:05:03 GMT
just had 28 solar panels fitted to our factory, 3 weeks ago, now trying to get the feed in part sorted... nightmare ... and worth vertually nil. 28 panels so G98 or G99 notification ( which installer should sort ) then apply to supplier for export MPAN, which they check with DNO that notification done, then you get the feed in tariff DNO's do seem averse to allowing solar to feed in. is the system setup to provide power in the event of a power cut many systems aren't
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Post by martin44 on Apr 22, 2023 20:11:15 GMT
just had 28 solar panels fitted to our factory, 3 weeks ago, now trying to get the feed in part sorted... nightmare ... and worth vertually nil. 28 panels so G98 or G99 notification ( which installer should sort ) then apply to supplier for export MPAN, which they check with DNO that notification done, then you get the feed in tariff DNO's do seem averse to allowing solar to feed in. is the system setup to provide power in the event of a power cut many systems aren't theres all sorts of bumf ... appears we can only get feed in tarrif thro the big 6 ... then they have to install a feed back meter.. then the tarrif seems to be 3ppkwh .. WHAT... WE BEING CHARGED 45P AND THEY OFFERING US 3P... GO GREEN?
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Post by bracknellboy on Apr 22, 2023 20:41:42 GMT
just had 28 solar panels fitted to our factory, 3 weeks ago, now trying to get the feed in part sorted... nightmare ... and worth vertually nil. edit.... just out of a point of interest.. my home electric tarriff is 30pkwh my business tarrif is 45pkwh ........ why? is that actually a serious question ? Have you just discovered this ? (and anyway I thought everywhere the domestic tariff was 34p / kwh, give or take a tiny smidgeon (depending on what small variation in the supply charge is allowed).
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Post by martin44 on Apr 22, 2023 20:49:39 GMT
just had 28 solar panels fitted to our factory, 3 weeks ago, now trying to get the feed in part sorted... nightmare ... and worth vertually nil. edit.... just out of a point of interest.. my home electric tarriff is 30pkwh my business tarrif is 45pkwh ........ why? is that actually a serious question ? Have you just discovered this ? (and anyway I thought everywhere the domestic tariff was 34p / kwh, give or take a tiny smidgeon (depending on what small variation in the supply charge is allowed). yea it is a serious question... 30p .. 34p so what? its about the difference... thats the point.. smidgeon here smidgeon there, so you say... it has a point.. which you dont seem to be able to grasp.
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Post by martin44 on Apr 22, 2023 20:56:16 GMT
just had 28 solar panels fitted to our factory, 3 weeks ago, now trying to get the feed in part sorted... nightmare ... and worth vertually nil. edit.... just out of a point of interest.. my home electric tarriff is 30pkwh my business tarrif is 45pkwh ........ why? is that actually a serious question ? Have you just discovered this ? (and anyway I thought everywhere the domestic tariff was 34p / kwh, give or take a tiny smidgeon (depending on what small variation in the supply charge is allowed). being an obvious expert... why does it cost 50% more to supply electricity to my business than it does to supply electricity to my home ?. important edit...... ?
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Post by jontyab on Apr 22, 2023 21:11:47 GMT
is that actually a serious question ? Have you just discovered this ? (and anyway I thought everywhere the domestic tariff was 34p / kwh, give or take a tiny smidgeon (depending on what small variation in the supply charge is allowed). being an obvious expert... why does it cost 50% more to supply electricity to my business than it does to supply electricity to my home ?. important edit...... ? Of course It doesn't cost more to supply to business, however domestic power is subsidised e.g.: www.gov.uk/government/publications/energy-bills-support/energy-bills-support-factsheet-8-september-2022Edit - the EPG may not be the only subsidy at play making up that specific difference in tariff rates
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Post by martin44 on Apr 22, 2023 21:17:37 GMT
domestic supply being subsidised does not answer the question... it merely gives a reason why... electricity cost has a price no matter who uses it ... if you are a business .. you are being ripped off.
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Post by bracknellboy on Apr 22, 2023 21:32:28 GMT
is that actually a serious question ? Have you just discovered this ? (and anyway I thought everywhere the domestic tariff was 34p / kwh, give or take a tiny smidgeon (depending on what small variation in the supply charge is allowed). being an obvious expert... why does it cost 50% more to supply electricity to my business than it does to supply electricity to my home ?. important edit...... ? nobody said it cost more to supply. You said it cost more for businesses to PAY FOR IT. Which it does. Because suppliers are being compensated to provide subsidised prices to the consumer market via the price cap. And they are not receiving same compensation for supply to business. But presumably you know all of this, unless you have spent the last 18 months as a hermit 'off grid' (oh the irony), so quite where you are going with this I guess only you know right now.
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Post by keitha on Apr 22, 2023 23:02:58 GMT
I'm on octopus flux for import and export 4-7pm I get paid 35p for export
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2023 6:56:58 GMT
It is interesting to consider that a business has made an investment in a technology that it seems not to understand, understandable since it probably isn't the core business.
Mrs Bobo used to be an energy consultant and before she gave up came to some basic conclusions
1) there will always be periods when the "double glazing salesmen" will come for a new technology and wreck it to make a fast buck 2) if a customer is not on top of the subject then supplier selection is the most vital part of any buying decision
Just having our solar removed as part of a roof replacement and our solar engineer firmly agrees that there are still supplier idiots in the market
Good luck, but I wouldn't pay any invoices until the thing is working.
A really good point, there is a key difference between what something costs and what you pay for it.
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Post by bracknellboy on Apr 23, 2023 7:02:35 GMT
is that actually a serious question ? Have you just discovered this ? (and anyway I thought everywhere the domestic tariff was 34p / kwh, give or take a tiny smidgeon (depending on what small variation in the supply charge is allowed). yea it is a serious question... 30p .. 34p so what? its about the difference... thats the point.. smidgeon here smidgeon there, so you say... it has a point.. which you dont seem to be able to grasp. oh I grasp it. You are asking a question about difference in PRICE to business vs domestic, then somehow morph that and dissing people's replies by commenting about comparative COST TO SUPPLY, all the time completely ignoring the fact that in the current circumstances domestic customers are benefiting from a very significant govt. subsidy which is not provided to businesses. Only you know why are are having this conversation this way, esp. given that energy subsidies and who does and doesn't get them have hardly been out of the public eye since mid last year.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2023 12:16:21 GMT
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Post by martin44 on Apr 28, 2023 19:46:23 GMT
yea it is a serious question... 30p .. 34p so what? its about the difference... thats the point.. smidgeon here smidgeon there, so you say... it has a point.. which you dont seem to be able to grasp. oh I grasp it. You are asking a question about difference in PRICE to business vs domestic, then somehow morph that and dissing people's replies by commenting about comparative COST TO SUPPLY, all the time completely ignoring the fact that in the current circumstances domestic customers are benefiting from a very significant govt. subsidy which is not provided to businesses. Only you know why are are having this conversation this way, esp. given that energy subsidies and who does and doesn't get them have hardly been out of the public eye since mid last year. What a load of rubbish... my bussiness is investing in green energy and getting punished for it. edit.. you do sod all in your house and get leccy at 34p..... i invest in my bussiness and get leccy at 45p.
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