Monetus
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Post by Monetus on Jun 6, 2019 10:15:27 GMT
The Lendy Action Group have been invited to be featured on BBC Radio 4’s Money Box show on Saturday.
We urgently need another P2P investor to join us and talk about your experiences in P2P and give your opinion on the new FCA regulations and whether they have actually changed anything for P2P investors.
You would obviously need to have some strong opinions on the new FCA regulations, be comfortable being on the radio and also having your name mentioned.
You would also need to be able to make it to New Broadcasting House, W1A 1AA between 10am and 12pm TOMORROW in order to pre-record your comments. Your questions and comments will then be asked to their live guest on Saturday’s show (most likely from the FCA).
Please PM me urgently if you are interested and definitely have availability tomorrow morning - no tyre kickers please!
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Post by tombraider on Jun 6, 2019 10:41:19 GMT
The Lendy Action Group have been invited to be featured on BBC Radio 4’s Money Box show on Saturday. We urgently need another P2P investor to join us and talk about your experiences in P2P and give your opinion on the new FCA regulations and whether they have actually changed anything for P2P investors. You would obviously need to have some strong opinions on the new FCA regulations, be comfortable being on the radio and also having your name mentioned. You would also need to be able to make it to New Broadcasting House, W1A 1AA between 10am and 12pm TOMORROW in order to pre-record your comments. Your questions and comments will then be asked to their live guest on Saturday’s show (most likely from the FCA). Please PM me urgently if you are interested and definitely have availability tomorrow morning - no tyre kickers please! Sorry can’t make it but please can someone bring up the fiasco of collateral being regulated by FCA when they weren’t and ask if the FCA feel responsible for investors having faith in that fiasco...and compensation. I cannot get tomorrow off sadly.
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Jun 6, 2019 10:51:29 GMT
Amusingly on my FB feed this post appeared directly above an advert offering the chance to feature on the John Oliver show. Did take a minute for my brain to realise that LAG reach hadn't actually extended to those levels yet but R4 is pretty good.
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Post by tommytaylor on Jun 6, 2019 11:38:52 GMT
The Lendy Action Group have been invited to be featured on BBC Radio 4’s Money Box show on Saturday. We urgently need another P2P investor to join us and talk about your experiences in P2P and give your opinion on the new FCA regulations and whether they have actually changed anything for P2P investors. You would obviously need to have some strong opinions on the new FCA regulations, be comfortable being on the radio and also having your name mentioned. You would also need to be able to make it to New Broadcasting House, W1A 1AA between 10am and 12pm TOMORROW in order to pre-record your comments. Your questions and comments will then be asked to their live guest on Saturday’s show (most likely from the FCA). Please PM me urgently if you are interested and definitely have availability tomorrow morning - no tyre kickers please! Monetus. I know you are on the lenders board for the collateral fiasco. Can i just ask would there be any reason why Collateral borrows where not given an opportunity to join an action group like this and have the option to go onto the radio to discuss how they were cheated and robbed. I know Lendy is a bigger fish due to the amounts of the loans in default ( although saying that i know money is money but it appears the majority of people who post on here only have a few hundred quid tied up and they certainly have plenty to say ) but it just seems recently that every post i read people are running up and down corridors to spread the word that we all need to club together which is correct but that never happened over the road for collateral investors I dont remember that happening for collateral investors. You of all people have a bigger insight into what is going on at the moment and there appears very little. I get the impression we have been forgot about and are not as important. Maybe i am way off the mark What do you think?
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Post by adrianc on Jun 6, 2019 11:49:21 GMT
Can i just ask would there be any reason why Collateral borrows where not given an opportunity to join an action group like this Because nobody organised one...?
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Post by agent69 on Jun 6, 2019 12:23:59 GMT
Can i just ask would there be any reason why Collateral borrows where not given an opportunity to join an action group like this Because nobody organised one...? Or because everyone anticipated BDO doing a top notch job?
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Post by adrianc on Jun 6, 2019 12:35:42 GMT
Because nobody organised one...? Or because everyone anticipated BDO doing a top notch job? Strange that nobody organised one during the two months between them going into administration and BDO being appointed, then.
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Monetus
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Post by Monetus on Jun 6, 2019 12:48:59 GMT
Monetus. I know you are on the lenders board for the collateral fiasco. Can i just ask would there be any reason why Collateral borrows where not given an opportunity to join an action group like this and have the option to go onto the radio to discuss how they were cheated and robbed. I know Lendy is a bigger fish due to the amounts of the loans in default ( although saying that i know money is money but it appears the majority of people who post on here only have a few hundred quid tied up and they certainly have plenty to say ) but it just seems recently that every post i read people are running up and down corridors to spread the word that we all need to club together which is correct but that never happened over the road for collateral investors I dont remember that happening for collateral investors. You of all people have a bigger insight into what is going on at the moment and there appears very little. I get the impression we have been forgot about and are not as important. Maybe i am way off the mark What do you think? This is a good question and I am glad you raised it actually. The simple answer is that a group like this wasn't formed for Collateral because enough investors didn't work together in order to create one. Unfortunately the Lendy collapse was always likely to attract more media attention purely because it's a significantly larger platform. While I may appear to be one of the public "faces" of this Lendy Group I can assure you that countless people are involved and this is a huge collective effort with a significant number of investors working on it (and we need more help urgently as it's growing rapidly!) Organising something like this needs a huge amount of coordination and requires a significant amount of time, energy and resources. We will soon be appealing for more help from here and other forums also as there are many capable people here in the P2P community who can help make a difference. In all honesty it would have been much easier for me to just sit back and do nothing and be a passive observer of the whole thing as I am extremely busy personally right now and also with my own business. I have been pretty much full-time on this whole thing since Friday 24th May to the detriment of my work (and amazing and extremely patient wife!) However, having been involved with P2P for a number of years I just cannot sit back in good conscience and watch another P2P disaster unfold without at least making an effort to try and do something about it. In regards to Collateral, I am currently on the Creditors Committee so I am of course bound by a strict NDA which limits the amount of information I can share publicly to virtually nothing. This isn't the case with Lendy - I am able to speak freely. It would be unrealistic for me to start an action group for Collateral now as I wouldn't be able to say anything. However this doesn't mean someone else can't? There is absolutely nothing stopping anyone from forming a Collateral Action Group but it has yet to materialise. The other difference is that prior to the Collateral administration I also had no experience whatsoever of dealing with administrators, lawyers, legal frameworks or insolvency practitioners. Even though the circumstances are clearly awful, the Collateral situation has given me some extremely valuable experience that I otherwise wouldn't have had. To be honest I'm not even sure I would have had the confidence to be involved in setting up something like this until now. I can understand where you are coming from, but I can assure you that I am still putting a huge amount of time and attention into the Collateral administration (I have been in communication with BDO several times already this week and there is a Creditors Committee meeting coming up shortly on the 18th of June). On a personal note I also have significantly more capital invested in Collateral than I do Lendy so I most certainly will not be forgetting about all you Collateral investors
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Post by batchoy on Jun 6, 2019 13:20:08 GMT
I could do, but I have very strong views about Lendy and those lent to/through them. Which boil down to the fact that the writing was on the the wall from the inception of Saving Stream and that anyone who was willing to lend to/through a company that was happy to mislead lenders with images that bore no relation to the vessels that they purported to be and that used said images with scant disregard to the copyright owners was an avaricious fool.
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Monetus
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Post by Monetus on Jun 6, 2019 13:22:08 GMT
I could do, but I have very strong views about Lendy and those lent to/through them. Which boil down to the fact that the writing was on the the wall from the inception of Saving Stream and that anyone who was willing to lend to/through a company that was happy to mislead lenders with images that bore no relation to the vessels that they purported to be and that used said images with scant disregard to the copyright owners was an avaricious fool. The main focus of the segment is the FCA's new regulations and whether or not they make any difference to investors. There will be the opportunity for some Lendy chat regarding your experience but the new rules are the primary topic.
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Post by cwah on Jun 6, 2019 14:44:06 GMT
I could do if I can remain anonymous.
I have a view that FCA is creating often more trouble than it is solving.
I vaguely remembered the FCA preventing skin in the game to avoid conflict of interest. What a joke!
The implementation of the rules while I've already invested locked me in. This is truely horrible because I could have get out if the rules were the ones I signed up for. No liability whatsoever from the FCA on that one!
I haven't seen them doing anything to enforce transparency, reliability of information provided to lenders. Which is the most important. Nothing about borrower/platform liability either when they create mess.
As comparison, the EU platform such as Mintos that I'm using is 10X better due to lower amount of (useless) legislation and stronger focus on borrower liability (buy-back + minimum skin in the game) and information transparency.
If anything, I'd have hoped that the FCA would work to make people becoming BETTER investors instead of creating more rules to protect themselves, which is furthermore in a very clumsy way (Just look at what happened to a working platform Collateral to what it is now..)
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Post by zlb on Jun 6, 2019 15:52:00 GMT
I could do if I can remain anonymous. I have a view that FCA is creating often more trouble than it is solving. I vaguely remembered the FCA preventing skin in the game to avoid conflict of interest. What a joke!The implementation of the rules while I've already invested locked me in. This is truely horrible because I could have get out if the rules were the ones I signed up for. No liability whatsoever from the FCA on that one! I haven't seen them doing anything to enforce transparency, reliability of information provided to lenders. Which is the most important. Nothing about borrower/platform liability either when they create mess. As comparison, the EU platform such as Mintos that I'm using is 10X better due to lower amount of (useless) legislation and stronger focus on borrower liability (buy-back + minimum skin in the game) and information transparency. If anything, I'd have hoped that the FCA would work to make people becoming BETTER investors instead of creating more rules to protect themselves, which is furthermore in a very clumsy way (Just look at what happened to a working platform Collateral to what it is now..) I can't do interview, but agree supporting lenders, eg forcing mandatory information on each loan, clear indication of how money could be lost (none of this currently covers how money lost at Ly for example). If the Government are keen for this sector to work, then they can't stand back and treat investors as supposedly wealthy who can take the hit/be the collateral damage in order to support SME and others (no pun wished). They shouldn't see it as some form of additional taxation on the wealthy (where it 'doesn't matter' that some money is lost), as it's not only the wealthy who invest.
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Post by adrianc on Jun 6, 2019 16:11:53 GMT
eg forcing mandatory information on each loan What information should have been on Ly loans that wasn't there? Did you expect the answer to be anything but "100%"?
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Post by registerme on Jun 6, 2019 16:44:02 GMT
I find it quite hard to envisage a situation where a person appearing on a show like this could appropriately represent the entire investor base, and worry that it could all too easily end up being "car crash TV" (or radio) eg the investment equivalent of the Jeremy Kyle show. This won't serve anybody well.
Certainly the evidence to date suggests that the BBC (and Times, and Telegraph etc) might be more interested in sensationalist journalism than they are in balanced, reasoned, analysis.
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Post by zlb on Jun 6, 2019 16:48:53 GMT
eg forcing mandatory information on each loan What information should have been on Ly loans that wasn't there? Did you expect the answer to be anything but "100%"? I didn't say 'how much' I said 'how'. There's no point in baiting people with negative comments, not everyone is the same here, not everyone has the same experience. There wasn't full info on borrowers, and two professional reviewers of Ly said they didn't give enough info.
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