IFISAcava
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Post by IFISAcava on Aug 14, 2020 14:56:15 GMT
as long as it is her personally compensating them I have no complaints.
I do think the current handling is a little shambolic. The infection rates don't suddenly jump overnight, as we know. They are trackable, and being tracked. So probably contrary to what I've said before, there would be an argument for giving a bit more than a few hours notice (what was it, 24 ?) from when it will apply. Apart from anything else, there are significant downsides to creating a situation where everyone is trying to rush back at the sametime. Remember those scenes at US airports when US citizens where given very short notice to get home ? Jam packed arrival lounges and queues for arrival lounges: self created petri dishes.
Are other countries being just as trigger happy in slapping on quarantines at the faintest whiff of numbers going up? (genuine question) As my next travel plan involves Greece, I note that they don't quarantine people. They do however currently require citizens of some countries (e.g. UAE, Bulgaria, Romania, Spain) to provide proof of a negative COVID test shortly before arrival. A less chaotic way of doing it? As someone who has travelled to Greece recently, I can tell you that they were quarantining people in the same way as the UK (i.e. you tell them your address where you will be and you are fined if not there). They also tested us and we had to stay in quarantine until the test result was back. However, that was in early July - not sure what the situation is now. Also, cases are unsurprisingly rising on many of the Greek islands (hence measures such as early closure of bars/restaurants and compulsory mask wearing).
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Post by r00lish67 on Aug 14, 2020 15:13:58 GMT
As someone who has travelled to Greece recently, I can tell you that they were quarantining people in the same way as the UK (i.e. you tell them your address where you will be and you are fined if not there). They also tested us and we had to stay in quarantine until the test result was back. However, that was in early July - not sure what the situation is now. Also, cases are unsurprisingly rising on many of the Greek islands (hence measures such as early closure of bars/restaurants and compulsory mask wearing). I think it's slightly more lax than that at the moment as the official page says that if you're chosen for a test now says "The test results are expected to become available within 24 hours. During that time, passengers who are tested are advised to practise social distancing according to local guidelines and self monitoring for symptoms that could indicate COVID-19". But yeah, it's a total crapshoot at the moment, and given the increasingly long list of COVID-test mandatory countries on that page, I'm fully expecting to have to get one. I'll be staying for a couple of months though, so worth it for me as long as I can eventually have some spanakopita
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Post by benaj on Aug 14, 2020 18:05:22 GMT
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Post by benaj on Aug 15, 2020 16:32:19 GMT
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Post by agent69 on Aug 15, 2020 17:03:32 GMT
Probably because of all the relaxations in lockdown that we have seen in a corresponding period. What I can't work out is if the R value has been consistently below 1 for the last 8 weeks why are the number of cases going up?
Overall, you won't see a significant improvement until people who think the rules don't apply to them start complying with the regulations.
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Post by benaj on Aug 15, 2020 17:15:39 GMT
Probably because of all the relaxations in lockdown that we have seen in a corresponding period. What I can't work out is if the R value has been consistently below 1 for the last 8 weeks why are the number of cases going up?
Overall, you won't see a significant improvement until people who think the rules don't apply to them start complying with the regulations.
They were quoting median of R, that's why. The R of many LAs are already above 1 but they are too shy to report it.
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Post by Mike on Aug 15, 2020 18:03:59 GMT
www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-53733600How could our test and trace system be successful when thereβs no sign reducing the R value effectively for running almost 10 weeks? The primary goal is not to reduce the R number, the R number is already a rate of change. R=1 now is acceptable, and unless you are of the view the virus can be eliminated through legislation it cannot be forever below 1, it will hover around 1 for a very long time. The less cases there are, the less meaningful an increase in cases is. 10 cases become 50 but all in the same factory doesn't equate to a society with an R number of 5 (in Hongkong, replace factory with domestic helper mass accommodation).* *Edit: unless 50 becomes 250 becomes 1250 etc
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Post by agent69 on Aug 15, 2020 18:04:00 GMT
Probably because of all the relaxations in lockdown that we have seen in a corresponding period. What I can't work out is if the R value has been consistently below 1 for the last 8 weeks why are the number of cases going up?
Overall, you won't see a significant improvement until people who think the rules don't apply to them start complying with the regulations.
They were quoting median of R, that's why. The R of many LAs are already above 1 but they are too shy to report it. All of the figures I have seen over the last couple of months quote a range of figures, and the top one is hardly ever over one. For example the Gov site is currently saying:
Last updated on Friday 14 August 2020.
Latest R number range for the UK 0.8-1.0, Latest growth rate range for the UK -4% to -1%
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Post by dan1 on Aug 16, 2020 22:04:38 GMT
I'm not really into toes but I found this twitter thread fascinating on research into Covid Toe: Can't get that image of David Mellor QC out of my head
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Post by Ton βββ on Aug 17, 2020 6:55:45 GMT
I'm not really into toes but I found this twitter thread fascinating on research into Covid Toe: Can't get that image of David Mellor QC out of my head
With your pictures there are they standing on the green baize, I'm guessing it's O'Sullivan's feet ...
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Post by dan1 on Aug 17, 2020 15:57:13 GMT
I'm not really into toes but I found this twitter thread fascinating on research into Covid Toe: Can't get that image of David Mellor QC out of my head
With your pictures there are they standing on the green baize, I'm guessing it's O'Sullivan's feet ...
Perhaps it explains the issue with his cue action
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Post by dan1 on Aug 17, 2020 20:18:52 GMT
Good news Neutralizing antibodies correlate with protection from SARS-1 CoV-2 in humans during a fishery vessel outbreak with high attack ratewww.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.08.13.20173161v1A study of an outbreak on a fishing vessel with 122 people onboard. Three had antibodies prior to departure and were not infected in the outbreak whereas 85% of those onboard were. A very small closed group but encouraging nonetheless. The only downside is that you'd expect a lower infection rate if there were widespread pre-existing immunity from, for example, the common cold Coronavirus.
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Post by alibaba on Aug 21, 2020 10:51:37 GMT
Now there is an image I do not want to retain!! Pinder ??
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Post by benaj on Aug 21, 2020 22:49:32 GMT
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Post by registerme on Aug 21, 2020 23:42:27 GMT
I read it, but I didn't find it that interesting. If it said anything new or useful I missed it. Did I?
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