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Post by agent69 on Dec 21, 2020 21:45:35 GMT
If I stand in my bedroom (in Tier 4) I can look across to Tier 2 a mile away - but with the River Thames between us.
I wonder how many residents of Reading and Newbury (for example) in Tier 4 are being tempted to travel the 18 miles or so to Basingstoke (in Hampshire and in Tier 2) to complete their Christmas shopping.
From PHE data, cases per 100k, i can’t justify Tier 4 reading while Burnley is Tier 3 except Reading is much closer to London Camden is in Tier 4 with similar stats in Oxford Tier 2 The tiers are allocated on the basis of a number of things, not just infection rate (such as the speed with which the virus is spreading, the age of the people being affected and the occupancy rate in hospitals).
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Post by benaj on Dec 22, 2020 7:31:02 GMT
www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-54241580Perhaps the Joint Biosecurity Centre is alseep again and not working preemptively. the UK is getting very close to level 5. Since the alert level changed to 4 in September, the gov was too slow to act and all these social distancing measures have not achieved any ideal results. 😞
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Post by stevepn on Dec 22, 2020 13:13:14 GMT
www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-54241580Perhaps the Joint Biosecurity Centre is alseep again and not working preemptively. the UK is getting very close to level 5. Since the alert level changed to 4 in September, the gov was too slow to act and all these social distancing measures have not achieved any ideal results. 😞 Precisely, a lot of the country has been on lockdown an on furlough since March and it still hasn't achieved anything.
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Post by mrk on Dec 22, 2020 13:34:31 GMT
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Post by adrianc on Dec 22, 2020 14:57:22 GMT
www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-54241580Perhaps the Joint Biosecurity Centre is alseep again and not working preemptively. the UK is getting very close to level 5. Since the alert level changed to 4 in September, the gov was too slow to act and all these social distancing measures have not achieved any ideal results. 😞 Precisely, a lot of the country has been on lockdown an on furlough since March and it still hasn't achieved anything. It has achieved a lot. We would be in an even worse mess without the restrictions. We would be a LOT better off if the knuckle-draggers and conspiracy theorists stopped thinking they knew best.
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Post by dan1 on Dec 22, 2020 15:01:39 GMT
Precisely, a lot of the country has been on lockdown an on furlough since March and it still hasn't achieved anything. It has achieved a lot. We would be in an even worse mess without the restrictions. We would be a LOT better off if the knuckle-draggers and conspiracy theorists stopped thinking they knew best. Knuckle-draggers? The major genetic risk factor for severe COVID-19 is inherited from Neanderthalswww.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2818-3
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Post by benaj on Dec 22, 2020 15:13:46 GMT
The new strain has caused alarm bells to the international community and they are taking taking swift actions to slow down this dominant strain.
At least some lessons have been learned. The UK had every chance to block this virus coming February/ March and so as the rest of the world.
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Post by michaelc on Dec 22, 2020 15:33:42 GMT
I'm not sure what is going on. I am sure there's more to it than a new variant. Will need to wait some hours/days for the dust to settle.
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Post by michaelc on Dec 22, 2020 15:34:32 GMT
Precisely, a lot of the country has been on lockdown an on furlough since March and it still hasn't achieved anything. It has achieved a lot. We would be in an even worse mess without the restrictions. We would be a LOT better off if the knuckle-draggers and conspiracy theorists stopped thinking they knew best. How do you know all that ?
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Post by adrianc on Dec 22, 2020 15:35:37 GMT
It has achieved a lot. We would be in an even worse mess without the restrictions. We would be a LOT better off if the knuckle-draggers and conspiracy theorists stopped thinking they knew best. How do you know all that ? Because, while I'm not a scientist, I respect their expertise and opinion. And I prioritise that above the kind of person who thinks they have a right to go to the pub or get their hair cut.
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Post by michaelc on Dec 22, 2020 15:44:54 GMT
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Post by adrianc on Dec 22, 2020 15:59:29 GMT
Slide 6 says 5,052 "health impact events" (defined as "unable to perform normal daily activities, unable to work, required care from doctor or health care professional") from 215,362 vaccinations. I make that 1 in 42, rather than 35 - minor - but is that a list of "serious" reactions? Is "felt a bit woozy, had to be helped to a bed for a quick lie-down" counted as "required care from health care professional"? Six cases of anaphylaxis from 215k vaccinations - the NHS reported a couple in the first day, both in people who were so prone to it they carried epipens.
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Post by dan1 on Dec 22, 2020 16:04:55 GMT
Knuckle-draggers? The major genetic risk factor for severe COVID-19 is inherited from Neanderthals... Dear dan1 I hope you’re not implying Neanderthals were knuckle dragging inferiors of homo-sapiens. Offend my ancestors again and once lockdown and tiers are over, ... well let’s not drag this down to a homo-sapien level. Such homo-sapien centric, unfounded, historical view of Neanderthals isn’t evidence based. One day Neanderthals’ rightful place in evolutionary history will be acknowledged and my money’s on they were as advanced as homo-sapiens if not more so. Yours Part Neanderthal and proud.
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Post by james100 on Dec 22, 2020 16:11:20 GMT
I understood it was potentially contraindicated for people with risk of anaphylactic reaction anyway which apparently runs at about 3% in European populations. So, nothing to remark upon really other than people should flag themselves up for evaluation if they have a history which suggests they may have a negative reaction. Meaning that even if they are expected to have a negative reaction, depending on other factors it may still be the better course of action to proceed. So my non-medical opinion is nothing to worry about and I'd be happy to inject tomorrow.
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Post by benaj on Dec 22, 2020 16:53:37 GMT
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