adrianc
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Post by adrianc on Jan 11, 2021 17:04:10 GMT
This made me lol (not THAT lol David C )... The use of the word "Alas" Just to be clear, I don't care if he was on a bike ride a few miles from his home, he's the PM for *******. He should rightly come in for a lot of criticism but not for this. I'm sure he could actually do some bloody work a lot more easily while on an exercise bike within number 10. The budget should stretch to a Peloton sub.
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Post by michaelc on Jan 11, 2021 17:40:55 GMT
This made me lol (not THAT lol David C )... The use of the word "Alas" Just to be clear, I don't care if he was on a bike ride a few miles from his home, he's the PM for *******. He should rightly come in for a lot of criticism but not for this. Yes I liked that usage too. If he cycled all the way from downstreet then presumably no question about a rule break. If he took his bike in a car then it depends on whether that area is "local" to him. Either way I see anything of that sort as minor but slightly more serious is the ill defined nature of the law which has led some forces to apply fines for things like that. As I think you were hinting at, he has far more serious fish to fry and he better get frying them !
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Post by starfished on Jan 11, 2021 18:45:27 GMT
This made me lol (not THAT lol David C )... The use of the word "Alas" Just to be clear, I don't care if he was on a bike ride a few miles from his home, he's the PM for *******. He should rightly come in for a lot of criticism but not for this. Yes I liked that usage too. If he cycled all the way from downstreet then presumably no question about a rule break. If he took his bike in a car then it depends on whether that area is "local" to him. Either way I see anything of that sort as minor but slightly more serious is the ill defined nature of the law which has led some forces to apply fines for things like that. As I think you were hinting at, he has far more serious fish to fry and he better get frying them !Boris is far from my favourite person but the man is allowed to exercise. I suspect it is very much in all our interests that he does!
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Post by Greenwood2 on Jan 12, 2021 8:40:28 GMT
Our date seems to be Jan 3rd, most of the rest Jan 8th or 9th, so possibly a reporting delay. Now updated and looking a lot better!
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Post by bracknellboy on Jan 12, 2021 9:33:34 GMT
We currently have 3 vaccines approved for use. Does anyone know which is expected to be the next cab off the rank? But are the cabs big enough for all? i.e. is there a shortage of vaccine? Where does AZN make it? They have a large facility in India but thats just been shut off to Indian residents only. Is their facility in the UK big enough? Others? I recall manufacturing was in Belgium Netherlands (and Germany ?) wasn't it ? "plans for manufacture in the UK have been beset by delays...." (This being the latest in a long string of the UKs 'world beating' responses to C19.
The India action - sad though it is - shouldn't impact UK. As I understood it, it was a condition of the Oxford team that manufacturing in India be allowed by Azn specifically for distribution to the developing world, not to the rich/developed countries. That is how I understood it anyway.
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Post by bracknellboy on Jan 12, 2021 9:44:10 GMT
I recall someone posting that the act of carrying out mass vaccination program is itself going to lead to a load of new infections.
An example of the sorts of problem that will be thrown up. My parents have been given and accepted a time slot this week. But its about 15 miles away, and the appointment is after dark. One parent is 88 and stopped driving. The other is 83 and stopped driving in the dark sometime back. They both have significant health conditions as we well as simply the age issue.
So either a friend of theirs up the road and by definition from a different household (who is also in the clinically vulnerable category) is going to have to spend about an hour (round trip) in the same vehicle as them to take them there, or I will do a round trip of about 90 miles plus the same one hour and 30 miles in the same vehicle with them.
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Post by agent69 on Jan 12, 2021 10:20:42 GMT
I recall someone posting that the act of carrying out mass vaccination program is itself going to lead to a load of new infections.
An example of the sorts of problem that will be thrown up. My parents have been given and accepted a time slot this week. But its about 15 miles away, and the appointment is after dark. One parent is 88 and stopped driving. The other is 83 and stopped driving in the dark sometime back. They both have significant health conditions as we well as simply the age issue.
So either a friend of theirs up the road and by definition from a different household (who is also in the clinically vulnerable category) is going to have to spend about an hour (round trip) in the same vehicle as them to take them there, or I will do a round trip of about 90 miles plus the same one hour and 30 miles in the same vehicle with them.
Or possibly they just phone up to explain their situation and ask for a day time appointment?
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Post by ilmoro on Jan 12, 2021 10:24:45 GMT
Our date seems to be Jan 3rd, most of the rest Jan 8th or 9th, so possibly a reporting delay. Now updated and looking a lot better! Actually overreporting as is just total number of shots administered so includes the 390,000 that have received two shots. Actual figure for one dose c3.38 UK numbers here coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare
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Post by Greenwood2 on Jan 12, 2021 10:36:11 GMT
Now updated and looking a lot better! Actually overreporting as is just total number of shots administered so includes the 390,000 that have received two shots. Actual figure for one dose c3.38 UK numbers here coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcareIt does say doses administered so there will be more than one dose per person (eventually) for all countries. UK will probably have more single doses than most for a while at least if we stretch out the time between doses and other countries don't (or not as much).
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Post by Steerpike on Jan 12, 2021 10:40:54 GMT
I recall someone posting that the act of carrying out mass vaccination program is itself going to lead to a load of new infections.
An example of the sorts of problem that will be thrown up. My parents have been given and accepted a time slot this week. But its about 15 miles away, and the appointment is after dark. One parent is 88 and stopped driving. The other is 83 and stopped driving in the dark sometime back. They both have significant health conditions as we well as simply the age issue.
So either a friend of theirs up the road and by definition from a different household (who is also in the clinically vulnerable category) is going to have to spend about an hour (round trip) in the same vehicle as them to take them there, or I will do a round trip of about 90 miles plus the same one hour and 30 miles in the same vehicle with them.
I have been thinking about these situations and wondered if it might be safer, under certain circumstances, to wait until it is possible to walk to the local surgery/pharmacy for a jab, particularly given that many of the people impacted would naturally be shielding for the next few months anyway.
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Post by Greenwood2 on Jan 12, 2021 10:51:41 GMT
I recall someone posting that the act of carrying out mass vaccination program is itself going to lead to a load of new infections.
An example of the sorts of problem that will be thrown up. My parents have been given and accepted a time slot this week. But its about 15 miles away, and the appointment is after dark. One parent is 88 and stopped driving. The other is 83 and stopped driving in the dark sometime back. They both have significant health conditions as we well as simply the age issue.
So either a friend of theirs up the road and by definition from a different household (who is also in the clinically vulnerable category) is going to have to spend about an hour (round trip) in the same vehicle as them to take them there, or I will do a round trip of about 90 miles plus the same one hour and 30 miles in the same vehicle with them.
I have been thinking about these situations and wondered if it might be safer, under certain circumstances, to wait until it is possible to walk to the local surgery/pharmacy for a jab, particularly given that many of the people impacted would naturally be shielding for the next few months anyway. You can decline the one offered at a centre and wait for a local one, although apparently it's not clear that you can on the 'invitation'.
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Post by bracknellboy on Jan 12, 2021 11:16:08 GMT
I recall someone posting that the act of carrying out mass vaccination program is itself going to lead to a load of new infections.
An example of the sorts of problem that will be thrown up. My parents have been given and accepted a time slot this week. But its about 15 miles away, and the appointment is after dark. One parent is 88 and stopped driving. The other is 83 and stopped driving in the dark sometime back. They both have significant health conditions as we well as simply the age issue.
So either a friend of theirs up the road and by definition from a different household (who is also in the clinically vulnerable category) is going to have to spend about an hour (round trip) in the same vehicle as them to take them there, or I will do a round trip of about 90 miles plus the same one hour and 30 miles in the same vehicle with them.
Or possibly they just phone up to explain their situation and ask for a day time appointment? apparently not: the initial call was not from a number they can call back to. And - being typical of someone of that age - my father at the time of the first call didn't feel he could ask for a different time: not least because everyone at the moment is 'of an age' and they need to fill the slots.
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Post by bracknellboy on Jan 12, 2021 11:20:07 GMT
I recall someone posting that the act of carrying out mass vaccination program is itself going to lead to a load of new infections.
An example of the sorts of problem that will be thrown up. My parents have been given and accepted a time slot this week. But its about 15 miles away, and the appointment is after dark. One parent is 88 and stopped driving. The other is 83 and stopped driving in the dark sometime back. They both have significant health conditions as we well as simply the age issue.
So either a friend of theirs up the road and by definition from a different household (who is also in the clinically vulnerable category) is going to have to spend about an hour (round trip) in the same vehicle as them to take them there, or I will do a round trip of about 90 miles plus the same one hour and 30 miles in the same vehicle with them.
I have been thinking about these situations and wondered if it might be safer, under certain circumstances, to wait until it is possible to walk to the local surgery/pharmacy for a jab, particularly given that many of the people impacted would naturally be shielding for the next few months anyway. Yes there will a number of different dilemmas playing out. Unfortunately 'walking to' is never going to be an option in their case due to their location. As an aside, they are also worried about getting overlooked/forgotten I think: they were previously contacted but had to be put back for a different vaccine due to contra indicators for the first one available for them.
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Post by agent69 on Jan 12, 2021 13:17:08 GMT
Or possibly they just phone up to explain their situation and ask for a day time appointment? apparently not: the initial call was not from a number they can call back to. And - being typical of someone of that age - my father at the time of the first call didn't feel he could ask for a different time: not least because everyone at the moment is 'of an age' and they need to fill the slots.
Phone the doctor's surgery and ask to be rescheduled to the next available daytime slot?
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Post by agent69 on Jan 12, 2021 14:56:38 GMT
A couple in Canada have been fined for breaking Covid curfew rules after the woman was caught "walking" her husband on a leash, according to local media. The woman reportedly told police that she was just out "walking her dog" near their home in the city of Sherbrooke, in Quebec.
On Saturday the province imposed a nightly curfew between 20:00 and 05:00. Walking a dog close to home is one of the only acceptable reasons to be outside between those times. The pair were spotted by police at around 9pm on Saturday night, just a short while after the new rules came into effect. They reportedly told police that they were following the rule for pets. Isabelle Gendron, of the Sherbrooke Police Department, told the local newspaper La Tribune the couple "did not co-operate with the police at all".
They were each fined CA$1,546 ($1,212; £893).
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