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Post by dan1 on Mar 9, 2020 21:02:51 GMT
I can't get this deeply irresponsible advert out of my head:
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Post by littleoldlady on Mar 9, 2020 22:07:29 GMT
I'm curious about the Saudi oil price move. Even before guaranteeing Aramco flotation related dividends and bond coupons Saudi Arabia needed an oil price of ~$80 to balance its budget. Fine, they'll put the boot into Russia, and Iran, shale, "expensive" Western producers, and hard to refine heavy crude producers like Brazil, Canada and Venezuela, but.... long term? I'm not so sure. Even if they drive other participants out of the market it's not like they have the capacity to make up the shortfall. And the shale pain will no doubt annoy The Orange One. I'm puzzled - cui bono? Tactical play on killing off US Shale. Probably, but it won't work. Shale wells are easily shut down and then restarted again when the price recovers.
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Post by agent69 on Mar 10, 2020 9:50:19 GMT
Despite the fact that Trump says this is nothing to worry about, senior Republicans who came into contact with somebody who subsequently tested positive are self isolating - www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51812153
Nedless to say, super Don doesn't find it necessary.
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Post by zlb on Mar 10, 2020 11:31:13 GMT
If pensioners with their defined benefit pensions die, then who is going to help their children financially, for example, in the long running housing crisis? The current economics of 'the pensioner' is far reaching. Do you mean grandchildren? Pensioners most likely to die from the virus are going to be in their 80s we might hope their children are well grown up and settled with their own families. Not to mention defined pensions are not necessarily big pensions (well mine isn't!). 'building emergency ward facilities' Plenty of empty (of tourists) hotels to use for hospital beds if necessary, but most patients don't need hospital treatment, just treat as any other virus: rest, take over the counter remedies for high temperature, etc (if you can buy any!), drink plenty of water and watch tv. The warning I saw was for over-60s. I meant children - but maybe also grandchildren. It's not only male rock stars who have children with much younger women, not referencing our current PM of course.
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Post by bernythedolt on Mar 10, 2020 12:10:16 GMT
what is going on with the numbers coming out of Italy ?
"Italy's coronavirus death toll has jumped by 97 to 463, as Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte described the outbreak as the country's "darkest hour".
The number of confirmed infections in Italy also increased to 9,172, up from 7,375 on Sunday, official figures show. " The deaths/confirmed cases is around 5% (not bothered to get the calculator out). But that is against a 'confirmed cases' number which is growing v. significantly daily. QED the "deaths / (confirmed cases at (today - median time to reach status = dead)" is a much higher number. China started much the same way actually, with a rate above 25% to begin with. It then gradually fell to today's (worldwide) figure of 5.91%. See this: www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/Navigate to the Closed Cases window and select Show Graph. It's the orange line which is of interest, and indeed the complementary green line showing increasing recoveries.
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Post by Please turn me over on Mar 10, 2020 12:16:44 GMT
what is going on with the numbers coming out of Italy ?
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Post by travolta on Mar 10, 2020 12:57:25 GMT
Brits are too darn mean to give anyone anything.
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Post by ozboy on Mar 10, 2020 13:14:18 GMT
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Post by agent69 on Mar 10, 2020 14:06:15 GMT
what is going on with the numbers coming out of Italy ?
Who is this man, and where does he get his information from?
Whether Italian hospitals are 80%, 90% or 100% full is a bit academic given that they will probably have twice as many cases to deal with in a few days time.
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Post by cb25 on Mar 10, 2020 14:08:18 GMT
Brits are too darn mean to give anyone anything. Wikipedia lists "countries by charitable donation", quoting data from Charities Aid Foundation, percentage of GDP given to non-profit organizations by individuals: UK 4th, Italy 9th, Germany 13th, France 18th.
Wikipedia lists "development aid country donors", Official Development Figures from OECD: UK 5th, Germany 9th, France 11th, Italy 18th
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Post by cb25 on Mar 10, 2020 14:16:25 GMT
PHE lists Coronavirus cases in England by Upper Tier Local Authority but more than 24hrs out of date Now shows data as at 9am on 9 Mar, guess it runs with a 24-hour delay.
BBC reports 373 cases (all time) in the UK, with 6 deaths as at 9am 10 Mar
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Post by agent69 on Mar 10, 2020 14:25:04 GMT
Nice try agent69 , but I've got friends and colleagues in Germany. If you heard the sort of messages coming out of the German government and German private/public sector organisations, then you would not be surprised by the slump demand at the flag carrier. From rumblings I've heard pre and post Corona, I'd wager Norwegian might be next on the chopping block. - Norwegian cancel 3000 flights and axe staff.
- Virgin admit to flying planes that are nearly empty
- UK carriers stop flying to Italy
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Post by michaelc on Mar 10, 2020 14:37:25 GMT
I can't get this deeply irresponsible advert out of my head: Quite incredible. I don't watch much TV and never see ads so I don't know if this is current - is it ?
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Post by bracknellboy on Mar 10, 2020 14:50:39 GMT
- Norwegian cancel 3000 flights and axe staff.
- Virgin admit to flying planes that are nearly empty
- UK carriers stop flying to Italy
, you missed (at least) one. Qantas. Pulling out A380s, predominantly on Asian routes. Of course being a large incumbent Qantas will likely ride it through relatively unscathed. Frankly all this airline reduction shouldn't really surprise anyone though. And a period of reduced international traffic might can only really be a good thing as far as COVID-19 goes.ahhh, no. Its a bad thing as far as Covid-19 goes. A good thing for potential hosts of Covid-19 though.
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Post by Please turn me over on Mar 10, 2020 15:07:09 GMT
agent69 , you missed (at least) one. Qantas. Pulling out A380s, predominantly on Asian routes. Of course being a large incumbent Qantas will likely ride it through relatively unscathed. Frankly all this airline reduction shouldn't really surprise anyone though. And a period of reduced international traffic might can only really be a good thing as far as COVID-19 goes. ahhh, no. Its a bad thing as far as Covid-19 goes. A good thing for potential hosts of Covid-19 though. Technically, the virus is SARS-CoV-2 while the disease caused by the virus is COVID-19. So I think @wallstreet's statement is sound. 
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