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Post by one21 on Mar 10, 2020 21:58:08 GMT
Is it possible that many have already had the milder symptom version already. I for one remember having unusual cold symtoms and speaking to others who had similar, which would go and return for quite a few weeks - the later part of 2019! I remember not having the energy to go jogging for at at least a couple of months. Edit Then again perhaps not looking at the Italian stats! I must have had it worse than you as I haven't had the energy to go jogging since I was in my mid-teens  Ha ha good one! However, I have more than the average interest in trying to keep fit, as I had a heart valve repair in 2002. All ok as yet without need of medication, touch wood!
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Post by dan1 on Mar 10, 2020 22:17:00 GMT
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Post by dan1 on Mar 10, 2020 22:36:39 GMT
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Post by Ton ⓉⓞⓃ on Mar 10, 2020 23:04:14 GMT
Hillingdon with Heathrow only has one case but next door in Ealing there's 5 and 5 too in Hounslow again next door, and Bucks on the other side has 2.
Is it that they are there in Hillingdon/Heathrow but we're not detecting them or people are travelling thru Hillingdon/Heathrow and not infecting others?
Shouldn't Heathrow be a centre of infection?
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Post by benaj on Mar 11, 2020 1:50:30 GMT
Perhaps the UK government will act more seriously.
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Post by scc on Mar 11, 2020 2:13:56 GMT
If you don't have a high temperature and a cough it's not covid! I wondered about that but a high temperature is not consistent with mild or very mild symptoms which is what most people are supposed to expect. Like others above, I've had slightly unusual symptoms (for me at least). A stubborn very mild fever of 37.1 and corresponding low level permanent headache being the main symptoms but fatigue being another. What makes me think it unlikely that we have or have had C19 is that the UK has tested a fairly large sample and the vast majority come back negative so why should I be any different? Depends what they are testing for. Presence of the virus? It might have cleared many people's bodies already. Presence of antibodies? I agree - these other symptoms are likely something else. I had a lurgy similar to what others are reporting in early Dec which in retrospect sounds very similar. Very slightly under the weather for about a week, walloped by a high fever/headaches for four days (confined to bed), combined with a dry cough. Small amounts of breathlessness. Periods of recurring malaise for over a month afterwards. Also highly contagious - at one point, everyone in a particular evening class I go to was wiped out for the same week and only one person struggled in.
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Post by Greenwood2 on Mar 11, 2020 7:49:53 GMT
I wondered about that but a high temperature is not consistent with mild or very mild symptoms which is what most people are supposed to expect. Like others above, I've had slightly unusual symptoms (for me at least). A stubborn very mild fever of 37.1 and corresponding low level permanent headache being the main symptoms but fatigue being another. What makes me think it unlikely that we have or have had C19 is that the UK has tested a fairly large sample and the vast majority come back negative so why should I be any different? Depends what they are testing for. Presence of the virus? It might have cleared many people's bodies already. Presence of antibodies? I agree - these other symptoms are likely something else. I had a lurgy similar to what others are reporting in early Dec which in retrospect sounds very similar. Very slightly under the weather for about a week, walloped by a high fever/headaches for four days (confined to bed), combined with a dry cough. Small amounts of breathlessness. Periods of recurring malaise for over a month afterwards. Also highly contagious - at one point, everyone in a particular evening class I go to was wiped out for the same week and only one person struggled in. Virtually everyone gets some sort of bug in the winter and usually the advise is the same, if you think you might be infectious stay at home, not that we usually do because we all worry too much about work. This year the advice might be taken more seriously so it may be a 'good' flu year as well.
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Post by benaj on Mar 11, 2020 8:07:02 GMT
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Post by easynow on Mar 11, 2020 8:32:10 GMT
Hillingdon with Heathrow only has one case but next door in Ealing there's 5 and 5 too in Hounslow again next door, and Bucks on the other side has 2.
Is it that they are there in Hillingdon/Heathrow but we're not detecting them or people are travelling thru Hillingdon/Heathrow and not infecting others?
Shouldn't Heathrow be a centre of infection?
Perhaps the people who work at Heathrow cannot afford to live near it.....
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Post by agent69 on Mar 11, 2020 9:41:52 GMT
That's useful to know as I've been sick with something since Xmas. Slightly runny nose, sinus pain and swollen glands are the main symptoms. That (and the continual rain) have put me off jogging too. If you don't have a high temperature and a cough it's not covid! The BBC website had some interesting findings, courtesey of research being carried out in USA:
- If you become infected it typically takes 5 days for symptoms to show
- Only 1 in 100 people take more than 14 days to develop symptoms
- There is little evidence to suggest people are infectious before they develop symptoms
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Post by southseacompany on Mar 11, 2020 10:00:25 GMT
If you don't have a high temperature and a cough it's not covid! That's not right. There was a study on the clinical features of the first thousand or so patients with covid in Wuhan submitted to the Lancet, which found that 98% of patients exhibited a fever (the most common symptom). In other words, 2% of clinically confirmed cases did not even have a fever at any point during their treatment. In all likelihood, there are many more such cases that were never confirmed as infected, since their symptoms were so mild they did not go to a hospital, or perhaps were even unaware they were infected.
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Post by IFISAcava on Mar 11, 2020 10:11:21 GMT
If you don't have a high temperature and a cough it's not covid! That's not right. There was a study on the clinical features of the first thousand or so patients with covid in Wuhan submitted to the Lancet, which found that 98% of patients exhibited a fever (the most common symptom). In other words, 2% of clinically confirmed cases did not even have a fever at any point during their treatment. In all likelihood, there are many more such cases that were never confirmed as infected, since their symptoms were so mild they did not go to a hospital, or perhaps were even unaware they were infected. Also, half of those who tested positive on the Diamond Princess were totally asymptomatic - and that was likely a higher than average risk group (elderly).
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Post by dan1 on Mar 11, 2020 10:21:31 GMT
As I understand it, if you have symptoms (fever, cough, difficulty breathing) you will not be tested for Covid-19 unless you have: - have been to an area with a serious outbreak
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- have been in contact with a confirmed case
Obviously, if you present to A&E with serious respiratory symptoms then they would test you.
I find this policy concerning because any deficiencies in contact tracing (e.g. public transport, that trip to Twickenham with >80k others, or Cheltenham with >250k) will lead to the virus spreading unchecked.
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Post by one21 on Mar 11, 2020 10:41:50 GMT
Hmm agree, and so it appears Chris Whitty's tongue in cheek opinion that MP's are only to be regarded as 'Super Spreaders' of great wisdom and acumen is slightly flawed!
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Post by IFISAcava on Mar 11, 2020 11:06:10 GMT
As I understand it, if you have symptoms (fever, cough, difficulty breathing) you will not be tested for Covid-19 unless you have: - have been to an area with a serious outbreak
or...
- have been in contact with a confirmed case
Obviously, if you present to A&E with serious respiratory symptoms then they would test you.
I find this policy concerning because any deficiencies in contact tracing (e.g. public transport, that trip to Twickenham with >80k others, or Cheltenham with >250k) will lead to the virus spreading unchecked.
You do know how common mild upper respiratory tract infections are this time of year? You couldn't possibly test everyone with mild symptoms.
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