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Post by gravitykillz on Mar 12, 2020 18:22:43 GMT
I dont think boris was extreme enough in his response. He should have shut down all employment practices and asked everyone to stay at home and comment on the p2p forum
about how best to make money from this financial calamity.
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Post by registerme on Mar 12, 2020 19:01:30 GMT
I think that's the first time in this thread that a post has genuinely got a belly laugh out of me  . |
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Post by corto on Mar 12, 2020 19:06:53 GMT
Having watched the whole press conference, I didn't see it as Boris making the calls based on his opinions, rather it appeared that he was listening to advice and any advice can only be as good as the information available at the time. I'm sure the CMO/CSO are aware of all relevant scientific papers on this, not just the one the Guardian refers to.
As to the point made by corto about the effects on industry - I would expect that to be a large consideration. 'Doing an Italy', i.e. locking down almost the whole of the country, is going to have massive economic cost. It'll be interesting to see how long the Italian authorities try to keep it going and how long the population agree to what is almost a prison sentence for the masses. As the press conference here made clear, they want to make any lock-down as short as possible and as effective as possible to ensure the public buys into it, otherwise the danger is that the public break quarantine just when the virus is about to peak. I'm sure that behind the CMO/CSO are teams that include people who do this sort of thing (modelling epidemics) for a living, rather than spending just an hour/two on it as is the case with journalists.
Guardian reporting a question answered by Sir Patrick Vallance, the government’s chief scientific adviser, during the above press conference: "Q: When do you think older people will be asked to stay at home? And how old is old?
Vallance says the peak is probably 10 to 14 weeks away, maybe longer. Even to cover the peak, you would need to ensure that those sorts of measures would be in place for 12 or 13 weeks or so."
In general you confirm my point: there are economic costs and there are human costs. The choice seems to be to keep the economic costs low.
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Post by registerme on Mar 12, 2020 19:07:30 GMT
 I can't attest to the validity of the data or presentation ( IFISAcava ?) but if it's accurate it's useful.
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Post by benaj on Mar 12, 2020 19:49:08 GMT
I can't attest to the validity of the data or presentation ( IFISAcava ?) but if it's accurate it's useful. This video may help us understand what's its like from a first person perspective. www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9oqvJ3iXGI
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Post by registerme on Mar 13, 2020 3:56:32 GMT
The video is worth watching (only a couple of minutes). A Dem (presumably, I've not checked) taking the head of the CDC to task and... doing well for America.
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Post by scc on Mar 13, 2020 4:56:25 GMT
She is awesome. A rare politician that earns their keep.
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Post by wiseclerk on Mar 13, 2020 9:32:14 GMT
I recommend this article. It is a few days old but very illustrative
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Post by benaj on Mar 13, 2020 9:37:55 GMT
From Guardian19 cases in Kensington and Chelsea, highest in any London boroughs and any counties in England. Who would have thought that? |
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Post by cb25 on Mar 13, 2020 9:57:32 GMT
From Guardian19 cases in Kensington and Chelsea, highest in any London boroughs and any counties in England. Who would have thought that? Ladies who lunch ('dahling, how absolutely super to see you, kiss, kiss')? 
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Post by propman on Mar 13, 2020 10:10:26 GMT
So if you’re sneezing you’re fine until you get lynched by the mob that blame you for spreading Coronavirus. Disclaimer. I have very very mild cold symptoms. Or then again it might be very very mild hayfever. Yes, an allergy to the perfumes used in many cleansers has not made my daughter and I popular!
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Post by scc on Mar 13, 2020 10:15:26 GMT
From Guardian19 cases in Kensington and Chelsea, highest in any London boroughs and any counties in England. Who would have thought that? Lots of rich international travellers and their entourages I'd guess. It'll be interesting to see if the rich/celeb/politician jetset turn out to be disproportionately affected. I suspect they already are, actually. Out of all of the billions of people who could be infected by now, the normal odds must be pretty low of A list actors/leaders of governments being infected by random chance. And yet, that's what we're seeing.
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Post by cb25 on Mar 13, 2020 10:16:55 GMT
"The UK's Chief Scientific Adviser has claimed that coronavirus could return every year like seasonal flu and is something 'we can't stop'." reports DublinLive
Well, that's something not to look forward to.
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Post by bracknellboy on Mar 13, 2020 10:17:37 GMT
From Guardian19 cases in Kensington and Chelsea, highest in any London boroughs and any counties in England. Who would have thought that? Ladies who lunch ('dahling, how absolutely super to see you, kiss, kiss')? after coming back from skiing in Italy no doubt....
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Post by bracknellboy on Mar 13, 2020 10:23:50 GMT
"The UK's Chief Scientific Adviser has claimed that coronavirus could return every year like seasonal flu and is something 'we can't stop'." reports DublinLive
Well, that's something not to look forward to.
I thought that was pretty much an inevitability once we reached the point that it was no longer containable to e.g. China. Its not deadly enough to burn itself out, and is infectious enough to get into the general population.
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