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Post by aju on Nov 27, 2021 17:44:22 GMT
Not sure if this is right place but has anyone heard of issues with the moderna booster whereby approx 6 hours after taking it the blood pressure drops so low that one falls in and out of consciousness.
This happened recently for friends sister in law and apparently they were anecdotally told this has a happened a few times with this vaccine.
I have booked my booster for Dec 3rd - I had covid recently and had to wait 28 days before having the booster.
In my case after the Positive test's i was offered an oximeter as part of a local trial and I felt ok for a while but after about a 7 days in with covid i started to deteriorate and my oximeter levels started to drop below values and I was shipped off to hospital to get tests and xray etc and was then put on oxygen for about 5 hours or so. I was told my lung xray showed signs of covid damage.
Thankfully i was discharged and advised to take it easy - to be honest i could barely get out of bed to go to bathroom for about a week or so - and now almost 15 days or more later I am still coughing but it is subsiding.
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Post by keitha on Nov 27, 2021 17:51:21 GMT
Masks back in shops, and public transport in England
But not Cinemas and Theatres
I'm beginning to lose what little faith I had in Chris Whitty & Patrick Vallance ) ( I had very little given their previous ... )
I think i'm safer spending 10 minutes in Tesco shopping than sat in a theatre or cinema for several hours.
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Post by Greenwood2 on Nov 27, 2021 17:54:59 GMT
Not sure if this is right place but has anyone heard of issues with the moderna booster whereby approx 6 hours after taking it the blood pressure drops so low that one falls in and out of consciousness. This happened recently for friends sister in law and apparently they were anecdotally told this has a happened a few times with this vaccine. I have booked my booster for Dec 3rd - I had covid recently and had to wait 28 days before having the booster. In my case after the Positive test's i was offered an oximeter as part of a local trial and I felt ok for a while but after about a 7 days in with covid i started to deteriorate and my oximeter levels started to drop below values and I was shipped off to hospital to get tests and xray etc and was then put on oxygen for about 5 hours or so. I was told my lung xray showed signs of covid damage. Thankfully i was discharged and advised to take it easy - to be honest i could barely get out of bed to go to bathroom for about a week or so - and now almost 15 days or more later I am still coughing but it is subsiding. Glad to hear you're getting better, a bit worried you didn't post for a while. Did the people with blood pressure problems after booster have similar problems before? I tend to get low blood pressure but was offered the Pfizer booster anyway, which resulted in an extremely sore arm but no other symptoms. Edit: I did feel a bit wobbly after the first AZ vaccine, but didn't think to check blood pressure.
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Post by keitha on Nov 27, 2021 18:03:02 GMT
Not sure if this is right place but has anyone heard of issues with the moderna booster whereby approx 6 hours after taking it the blood pressure drops so low that one falls in and out of consciousness. This happened recently for friends sister in law and apparently they were anecdotally told this has a happened a few times with this vaccine. I have booked my booster for Dec 3rd - I had covid recently and had to wait 28 days before having the booster. In my case after the Positive test's i was offered an oximeter as part of a local trial and I felt ok for a while but after about a 7 days in with covid i started to deteriorate and my oximeter levels started to drop below values and I was shipped off to hospital to get tests and xray etc and was then put on oxygen for about 5 hours or so. I was told my lung xray showed signs of covid damage. Thankfully i was discharged and advised to take it easy - to be honest i could barely get out of bed to go to bathroom for about a week or so - and now almost 15 days or more later I am still coughing but it is subsiding. OK So my experience Booster Given Thursday afternoon Friday when i woke up the area around Injection site very painful, neck stiff and sore. elbows and knees very painful, making going up or down stairs to toilet an arduous task, headache all day , Several times during the day I nearly lost my balance. No interest in Food, not even a crispy bacon butty. My eyes are sore like hay fever. Generally I feel rough like I have flu. Fell asleep whilst reading in bed and woke up about 2am rather cold Today the knees and elbows not as bad but still painful and stiff neck etc still but less severe. Interestingly I put it in the Zoe App and its told me this afternoon to get a PCR test
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 27, 2021 18:10:03 GMT
Masks back in shops, and public transport in England But not Cinemas and Theatres I'm beginning to lose what little faith I had in Chris Whitty & Patrick Vallance ) ( I had very little given their previous ... ) I think i'm safer spending 10 minutes in Tesco shopping than sat in a theatre or cinema for several hours. well I've not listened to the whole thing as yet, but am watching on catchup. However, decisions on requirements on wearing of masks are a POLITICAL decision not a scientific one. And given we have a PM who can't even be a***d to wear one at a hospital when it is a requirement to wear facemasks in NHS settings, its hardly surprising if the political arm responds in a completely half a****d way. However, with regard to Cinemas. Have you been to one in recent times ? I went to one the other day with a mid-week program starting around 5pm. It was one of the safest indoor public spaces I've been in, with only about 12-15 people in that screen, and therefore well spaced out and stationery. Whereas, when I go to Tesco's I have no control over the distance that others decide to come within me, its more 'dense packing' in general, and I come into 'contact' with a much larger number of people in 15 minutes in the aisles then I would with 3 hours at the cinema. Much the same could be said with pubs, but probably amplified multiple times.
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 27, 2021 18:21:02 GMT
Not sure if this is right place but has anyone heard of issues with the moderna booster whereby approx 6 hours after taking it the blood pressure drops so low that one falls in and out of consciousness. This happened recently for friends sister in law and apparently they were anecdotally told this has a happened a few times with this vaccine. I have booked my booster for Dec 3rd - I had covid recently and had to wait 28 days before having the booster. In my case after the Positive test's i was offered an oximeter as part of a local trial and I felt ok for a while but after about a 7 days in with covid i started to deteriorate and my oximeter levels started to drop below values and I was shipped off to hospital to get tests and xray etc and was then put on oxygen for about 5 hours or so. I was told my lung xray showed signs of covid damage. Thankfully i was discharged and advised to take it easy - to be honest i could barely get out of bed to go to bathroom for about a week or so - and now almost 15 days or more later I am still coughing but it is subsiding. sorry to hear you got whacked and hope the effects completely disappear in the near future. Our area is offering (and delivering) oximeter's to all +ves who will take them, and has been doing so for quite a while. Looks like you are a great example of how that helps to catch deterioration earlier than might otherwise happen.
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Post by aju on Nov 27, 2021 18:37:37 GMT
Thanks for the responses, I don't think the person who had issues had experienced it before.
In my case i'm still monitoring using oximeter and am getting 98/97 most of the time now. Great little tool I feel. It never occured to me to check blood pressure the hospital seemed ok with that side but the doctor was more keen to get my pulse rate down and asked me to drink loads of water.
Will get out BP monitor out and try that one.
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Post by michaelc on Nov 27, 2021 18:47:17 GMT
Yes the article you link to is a good article. It is easily understood by the layperson and balanced. I think you have a very optimistic view of the layperson. Nature is a scientific journal. Articles like that are written for scientifically-aware and -informed laymen, rather than for professional scientific audiences, but they are certainly not written for Joe Public. I know what Nature is Which part of that article do you feel is beyond most people? As a general point is it true that the further Left you are on the traditional political scale the less faith you have in the education level and intelligence of your fellow man/women/either/both? I may well be wrong and the bias may well appear on the Right, but its the Left that I know more about as I know more of them....
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 27, 2021 19:09:04 GMT
Omicron: anyone else begin to get the feeling we are but the mere unwitting counters in a part of a divine game of snakes and ladders being played out between Zeus and Ares ?
One of those b******s just rolled a 4 when they (and we) needed a 5.
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Post by registerme on Nov 27, 2021 19:38:06 GMT
Omicron: anyone else begin to get the feeling we are but the mere unwitting counters in a part of a divine game of snakes and ladders being played out between Zeus and Ares ? One of those b******s just rolled a 4 when they (and we) needed a 5. Here ya goI find it quite compelling.
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Post by michaelc on Nov 27, 2021 19:41:22 GMT
Omicron: anyone else begin to get the feeling we are but the mere unwitting counters in a part of a divine game of snakes and ladders being played out between Zeus and Ares ? One of those b******s just rolled a 4 when they (and we) needed a 5. Lets be positive for a moment. As I understand it there is just slightly more chance of this being less pathogenic than Delta. So is one possible scenario that its actually about on par with the common cold symptoms-wise but its so transmissible it takes over the world thus requiring no more vaccines, no more lockdowns etc ?
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 27, 2021 19:43:13 GMT
Omicron: anyone else begin to get the feeling we are but the mere unwitting counters in a part of a divine game of snakes and ladders being played out between Zeus and Ares ? One of those b******s just rolled a 4 when they (and we) needed a 5. Here ya goI find it quite compelling. Please don't go all Elon Musk on us....
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Post by Greenwood2 on Nov 27, 2021 20:39:01 GMT
Omicron: anyone else begin to get the feeling we are but the mere unwitting counters in a part of a divine game of snakes and ladders being played out between Zeus and Ares ? One of those b******s just rolled a 4 when they (and we) needed a 5. Lets be positive for a moment. As I understand it there is just slightly more chance of this being less pathogenic than Delta. So is one possible scenario that its actually about on par with the common cold symptoms-wise but its so transmissible it takes over the world thus requiring no more vaccines, no more lockdowns etc ? I think people are reacting to the large amount of change in the virus in this variant, how much that will be a problem no one knows yet hopefully not as bad as could be conjectured.
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Post by littleoldlady on Nov 27, 2021 20:42:51 GMT
Omicron: anyone else begin to get the feeling we are but the mere unwitting counters in a part of a divine game of snakes and ladders being played out between Zeus and Ares ? One of those b******s just rolled a 4 when they (and we) needed a 5. Lets be positive for a moment. As I understand it there is just slightly more chance of this being less pathogenic than Delta. So is one possible scenario that its actually about on par with the common cold symptoms-wise but its so transmissible it takes over the world thus requiring no more vaccines, no more lockdowns etc ? That's what is assumed happened to Spanish Flu. Left to it's own devices a virus will evolve to become more infectious and less dangerous. Once you start corralling it with vaccines and lockdowns you force it down evolutionary paths which it would not otherwise find.
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Post by daveb on Nov 27, 2021 20:46:41 GMT
I think you have a very optimistic view of the layperson. Nature is a scientific journal. Articles like that are written for scientifically-aware and -informed laymen, rather than for professional scientific audiences, but they are certainly not written for Joe Public. I know what Nature is Which part of that article do you feel is beyond most people? As a general point is it true that the further Left you are on the traditional political scale the less faith you have in the education level and intelligence of your fellow man/women/either/both? I may well be wrong and the bias may well appear on the Right, but its the Left that I know more about as I know more of them.... Regarding the final point, I saw an article stating that over the last 20 or so years, political preferences have changed. In the past, parties of the left appealled to the less well off and less educated. Now they appeal to a coalition of less well off and more educated. While the right has lost support from the more- and gained from the less- educated. I bet it would be easy to find the article but I've no time to do so at present.
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