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Post by gravitykillz on Mar 15, 2020 20:55:26 GMT
I have an allotment, so some proportion of my food supply comes from there - still have some onions in the house from last year harvest and plenty of Jerusalem artichokes in the ground and plenty of jam in my cellar Just dug the last of the potatoes, lucky it wasn't a very frosty year, purple sprouting, leeks, carrots, sprouts, sprout tops still in the ground (not a lot but nice to have) + over wintered cabbages and cauliflowers a few weeks away to harvest, some leaves spinach and chard leaves left in the ground over winter which may crop a bit before going to seed. Starting to plant seeds and potting on for this year. Made Grape Jam for the first time last year pretty good! I envy you. To be self sufficient rather than rely on supermarkets. Growing your own fruit and veg is the way to go!
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Post by agent69 on Mar 15, 2020 20:59:07 GMT
Some may think this is a bit of a conspiracy theory, but is there any truth in the rumour that the current food shortages are a deliberate ploy by the government to get us prepared for Brexit?
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Post by Godanubis on Mar 15, 2020 21:56:58 GMT
Just dug the last of the potatoes, lucky it wasn't a very frosty year, purple sprouting, leeks, carrots, sprouts, sprout tops still in the ground (not a lot but nice to have) + over wintered cabbages and cauliflowers a few weeks away to harvest, some leaves spinach and chard leaves left in the ground over winter which may crop a bit before going to seed. Starting to plant seeds and potting on for this year. Made Grape Jam for the first time last year pretty good! I envy you. To be self sufficient rather than rely on supermarkets. Growing your own fruit and veg is the way to go! If they are mugging people for a loo roll you will need 24/7 security on the allotment that you won’t be allowed to get out to visit
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Post by Godanubis on Mar 15, 2020 22:02:22 GMT
Just bought an nice 1-7litre/min 30-98% oxygen generator . They seem to be selling fast as over 200 sold in a day where that would be a years normal sales. A nice oxygen boost keeps faculties sharp and helps the lungs. Why have money just sitting any returns from investments should be used to enhance your life especially if you had already written it off as loss
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Post by Godanubis on Mar 15, 2020 22:05:41 GMT
Bus companies will go bust if those with bus pass are at home and business in lock down.
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Post by copacetic on Mar 15, 2020 22:18:39 GMT
Just bought an nice 1-7litre/min 30-98% oxygen generator . They seem to be selling fast as over 200 sold in a day where that would be a years normal sales. A nice oxygen boost keeps faculties sharp and helps the lungs. Why have money just sitting any returns from investments should be used to enhance your life especially if you had already written it off as loss
Just in case anyone thinks this is good advice, it's not. If you have normal oxygen levels then breathing high oxygen concentrations is detrimental to your health. If a doctor assess and prescribes oxygen because you have low oxygen saturation due to a medical condition by all means use it, otherwise hold off on taking medical advice from a god of the afterlife...
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Post by registerme on Mar 15, 2020 22:54:56 GMT
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Post by benaj on Mar 16, 2020 0:09:07 GMT
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Post by Godanubis on Mar 16, 2020 0:12:23 GMT
Just bought an nice 1-7litre/min 30-98% oxygen generator . They seem to be selling fast as over 200 sold in a day where that would be a years normal sales. A nice oxygen boost keeps faculties sharp and helps the lungs. Why have money just sitting any returns from investments should be used to enhance your life especially if you had already written it off as loss
Just in case anyone thinks this is good advice, it's not. If you have normal oxygen levels then breathing high oxygen concentrations is detrimental to your health. If a doctor assess and prescribes oxygen because you have low oxygen saturation due to a medical condition by all means use it, otherwise hold off on taking medical advice from a god of the afterlife...
God of the afterlife also has a medical background and nobody was advocating unnecessary high oxygen input but have it available if lung function is impaired as with Covid 19 . Personally I have OSA and APAP therapy where O2 sat can often dip below 90%. You can buy O2 in cans in vending machines for a quick fix in Japan. Theses machines can give a small increase in O2 no different than a native of the Himalayas visiting the Netherlands. Better to have the machine and not need it than need it and not have it. As this whole thread is in relation to Covid 19 the post was aimed as that at its base not at non compromised individuals who would be unlikely to spend several hundred pounds for a hangover cure Here is NHS advice for O2 link
Also Covid 19 treatment. link
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Post by mrclondon on Mar 16, 2020 2:08:40 GMT
Some thoughtful commentary from Lord Blunkett on the dangers of forcing self-isolation on the over 70's (he is 72)
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Post by m2btj on Mar 16, 2020 9:33:16 GMT
Some thoughtful commentary from Lord Blunkett on the dangers of forcing self-isolation on the over 70's (he is 72)
My father is a fit & active 85 year old. As a former general builder he helps the elderly in the local community. Last week alone he replaced a fence post, repaired a broken gate & fitted a new toilet syphon unit. I can't remember a time when he sat on his backside all day in front of a TV or newspaper. I fear for his physical & mental wellbeing if he's forced (he'll need to be) to remain at home for up to four months.
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Post by Greenwood2 on Mar 16, 2020 9:43:52 GMT
Some thoughtful commentary from Lord Blunkett on the dangers of forcing self-isolation on the over 70's (he is 72)
My father is a fit & active 85 year old. As a former general builder he helps the elderly in the local community. Last week alone he replaced a fence post, repaired a broken gate & fitted a new toilet syphon unit. I can't remember a time when he sat on his backside all day in front of a TV or newspaper. I fear for his physical & mental wellbeing if he's forced (he'll need to be) to remain at home for up to four months. They can hardly force everyone over 70 to stay at home, what would they do put an armed guard on everyone's house? Make everyone who might look over 70 carry an identification card, so they can return naughty 70 pluses home if found wandering? It is a sensible precaution for people at risk to be careful about exposure, but I'm sure most over 70s are doing that already anyway.
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Post by m2btj on Mar 16, 2020 9:50:30 GMT
My father is a fit & active 85 year old. As a former general builder he helps the elderly in the local community. Last week alone he replaced a fence post, repaired a broken gate & fitted a new toilet syphon unit. I can't remember a time when he sat on his backside all day in front of a TV or newspaper. I fear for his physical & mental wellbeing if he's forced (he'll need to be) to remain at home for up to four months. They can hardly force everyone over 70 to stay at home, what would they do put an armed guard on everyone's house? Make everyone who might look over 70 carry an identification card, so they can return naughty 70 pluses home if found wandering? It is a sensible precaution for people at risk to be careful about exposure, but I'm sure most over 70s are doing that already anyway. Newspaper reporting this morning suggests that the government are considering fines of up to £1000 & possible imprisonment. This would apply to those not affected by the virus too.
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Post by cb25 on Mar 16, 2020 10:22:38 GMT
They can hardly force everyone over 70 to stay at home, what would they do put an armed guard on everyone's house? Make everyone who might look over 70 carry an identification card, so they can return naughty 70 pluses home if found wandering? It is a sensible precaution for people at risk to be careful about exposure, but I'm sure most over 70s are doing that already anyway. Newspaper reporting this morning suggests that the government are considering fines of up to £1000 & possible imprisonment. This would apply to those not affected by the virus too. Telegraph reports is as "People aged over 70 face up to four months in self-isolation and the public risk being taken into custody or being given a £1,000 fine if they refuse to be tested or quarantined for suspected coronavirus." which I read (maybe incorrectly) that the £1,000 fine does NOT apply to those over 70 who fail to self-isolate but to those who "refuse to be tested or quarantined for suspected coronavirus"
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Post by registerme on Mar 16, 2020 10:36:47 GMT
Newspaper reporting this morning suggests that the government are considering fines of up to £1000 & possible imprisonment. This would apply to those not affected by the virus too. Telegraph reports is as "People aged over 70 face up to four months in self-isolation and the public risk being taken into custody or being given a £1,000 fine if they refuse to be tested or quarantined for suspected coronavirus." which I read (maybe incorrectly) that the £1,000 fine does NOT apply to those over 70 who fail to self-isolate but to those who "refuse to be tested or quarantined for suspected coronavirus" Leave aside the question of fines and testing etc, how are we meant to feed and otherwise look after 7.5 million people who are compelled to self-isolate for an extended period of time? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_Kingdom#Age_structureIn my immediate community we have two ladies in their seventies, one couple in their 60s, and at least two families with young babies. I already shop for one of the old ladies, and I am happy to extend that to the other, and more generally I am sure we will pull together to sort things out but a) there will be communities that have a higher proportion of those in need and b) not all communities will (be able to) pull together like this .
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