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Post by benaj on Nov 28, 2023 9:15:43 GMT
I am definitely unprepared for this winter. Regardless of my choice, I am not eligible for NHS vaccination. According to the testing kit, I got it 10 days ago. Runny nose and sore throat, now tested negative after the course.
2 out of 4 household members got it. Although every household members got jabbed at least twice, the under 18s in the household don’t seem to have any symptoms nor tested positive.
According to UKHSA weekly surveillance 23rd Nov, covid-19 activity decreased in week 46. It seems I am just one of the unlucky ones getting it this winter.
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 28, 2023 9:37:32 GMT
I am definitely unprepared for this winter. Regardless of my choice, I am not eligible for NHS vaccination. According to the testing kit, I got it 10 days ago. Runny nose and sore throat, now tested negative after the course. 2 out of 4 household members got it. Although every household members got jabbed at least twice, the under 18s in the household don’t seem to have any symptoms nor tested positive. According to UKHSA weekly surveillance 23rd Nov, covid-19 activity decreased in week 46. It seems I am just one of the unlucky ones getting it this winter. I'm fortunate to say that I have continued to dodge it. Or if I haven't, then its been so mild I haven't known about it. Though by now I've had 4 shots of anti-C juice, so maybe my immune system has just been standing tall screaming "Stay Back".
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Post by brightspark on Nov 28, 2023 11:00:30 GMT
It is all about risk - investors know all about that! If you are a miserly miserable old curmudgeon iiving alone, don't work and rarely go anywhere then you may well stay untouched. If you are the heart and soul of any party, commute daily, work in a large badly ventilated open plan environment, socialise frequently and a family man you are toast.
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 28, 2023 11:27:25 GMT
It is all about risk - investors know all about that! If you are a miserly miserable old curmudgeon iiving alone, don't work and rarely go anywhere then you may well stay untouched. If you are the heart and soul of any party, commute daily, work in a large badly ventilated open plan environment, socialise frequently and a family man you are toast. I could take offence at that, but I won't.
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Post by jonno on Nov 28, 2023 11:44:00 GMT
I am definitely unprepared for this winter. Regardless of my choice, I am not eligible for NHS vaccination. According to the testing kit, I got it 10 days ago. Runny nose and sore throat, now tested negative after the course. 2 out of 4 household members got it. Although every household members got jabbed at least twice, the under 18s in the household don’t seem to have any symptoms nor tested positive. According to UKHSA weekly surveillance 23rd Nov, covid-19 activity decreased in week 46. It seems I am just one of the unlucky ones getting it this winter. I'm fortunate to say that I have continued to dodge it. Or if I haven't, then its been so mild I haven't known about it. Though by now I've had 4 shots of anti-C juice, so maybe my immune system has just been standing tall screaming "Stay Back". I had both of the jabs at the end of Oct. I went out on a works "reunion" on the 18th of November (crowded Victorian pub etc) and I haven't been out of the house since. I've had the worst "infection" I've had for years. Tested twice for Covid, both negative, so I can only assume I've had some Flu variant,which, had I not had a jab would have been even worse. I've had Covid three times and this is very, very much worse; I won't go into detail but I wouldn't wish this on anyone. The most amazing thing is that somehow my other half has dodged it.
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Post by Greenwood2 on Nov 28, 2023 13:23:32 GMT
I'm fortunate to say that I have continued to dodge it. Or if I haven't, then its been so mild I haven't known about it. Though by now I've had 4 shots of anti-C juice, so maybe my immune system has just been standing tall screaming "Stay Back". I had both of the jabs at the end of Oct. I went out on a works "reunion" on the 18th of November (crowded Victorian pub etc) and I haven't been out of the house since. I've had the worst "infection" I've had for years. Tested twice for Covid, both negative, so I can only assume I've had some Flu variant,which, had I not had a jab would have been even worse. I've had Covid three times and this is very, very much worse; I won't go into detail but I wouldn't wish this on anyone. The most amazing thing is that somehow my other half has dodged it. There seem to be a few really bad bugs around at the moment, some test positive for Covid, some don't, and some seem to only test positive on a few days of the infection, not the first couple of days and not much later. I guess it doesn't really matter what it is, but seems really nasty and long lasting.
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Post by michaelc on Nov 28, 2023 13:25:25 GMT
This might be totally wrong but the way I see it is when Covid first arrived, nobody had ever had it. So it just ripped through the population causing millions of infections. Some of those ended up in hospital and some died.
Now, immunity is everywhere so its harder for the thing to really take hold. Thus epidemics are much less likely but still a few vulnerable dying.
All a bit like flu and I never used to worry about flu. So why worry about this?
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Post by jonno on Nov 28, 2023 13:59:31 GMT
This might be totally wrong but the way I see it is when Covid first arrived, nobody had ever had it. So it just ripped through the population causing millions of infections. Some of those ended up in hospital and some died. Now, immunity is everywhere so its harder for the thing to really take hold. Thus epidemics are much less likely but still a few vulnerable dying. All a bit like flu and I never used to worry about flu. So why worry about this? michaelc, I entirely agree with you. Like you I've never worried about Flu, in fact the jab I had this year is only my second one (mid 60's) and similarly I don't worry about Covid having had it three times already. I think the salient point though is that whatever I've got now is as bad as anything I've had before and if it is an example of what's around, whilst I'm not saying "worry about it" I am saying "get a jab".
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Post by benaj on Nov 28, 2023 14:20:29 GMT
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Post by keitha on Nov 28, 2023 15:05:07 GMT
I have allergies, and was told "It's this (Pfizer) or nothing we will just put you down as refused" so I've had it had to sit on what they described as the "Naughty Chair" for 10 . what has happened to empathy and caring in the NHS the process was a farce 1 nurse as a door keeper ( why not a security guy / porter that would be cheaper ) 1 nurse checking letters 2 nurses doing jabs 2 more using laptops to record data another checking the injections and 2 managers watching the others I was 24th in queue when I arrived, and it took an hour and 10 minutes to get to being injected
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Post by bernythedolt on Nov 29, 2023 0:04:38 GMT
My wife and I had our Covid boosters today (something called Spikevax XBB). What a contrast, keitha, from your vaccine centre (both NHS Wales). Staffed by around 5 nurse/jabbers and 3 nurse/admins, we went straight in without queueing and they couldn't have been any nicer. We had a little chuckle and were in and out inside 5 minutes. No 'naughty chair', but they asked us to sit in the car for 15 minutes before driving off, as per usual, in case of anaphylactic shock or other adverse reaction. All very efficient, apart from the usual lengthy drive to the venue (40 mile round trip).
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 29, 2023 9:07:57 GMT
I have allergies, and was told "It's this (Pfizer) or nothing we will just put you down as refused" so I've had it had to sit on what they described as the "Naughty Chair" for 10 . what has happened to empathy and caring in the NHS the process was a farce 1 nurse as a door keeper ( why not a security guy / porter that would be cheaper ) 1 nurse checking letters 2 nurses doing jabs 2 more using laptops to record data another checking the injections and 2 managers watching the others I was 24th in queue when I arrived, and it took an hour and 10 minutes to get to being injected as @berneythedolt said, your experience is very different from mine. But I'll come back to that. Our vaccine "centre" is much reduced from its old venue - not surprisingly. It is run by/on behalf of a number of GP surgeries that are part of/fall under a particular primary care trust. While much reduced from the previous setup, it nonetheless was still using volunteers for e.g. front door, car park and guidance (the location is a bit less than ideal and so could be a little difficult for the target elderly cohort to navigate). The check in desk is run not by nurses, but by doctors surgery reception type staff on secondment. at the old centre there would typically have been two or three of those, now only 1. The number of nurses - who ware only there for jabbing/vaccine handling - much reduced. Perhaps one of the major differences here is that ours is run for the benefit of the primary care trust - with the stakeholders being GP practises which are in effect businesses - and the other being run directly by "NHS Central". I have noted before that in the latter stages of the vaccine programs though, there seemed to be a tendency to have way more nursing staff on (to do jabs) than was necessitated by the number of appointments. Perhaps understandable in the first programs, but not really in the booster programs after the first 2 or 3 weeks. I got a sense that there was an element of an 'overtime gravy train' going on for the NHS staff angle for considerable periods, through significant overstaffing.
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Post by benaj on Nov 29, 2023 9:15:26 GMT
All very efficient, apart from the usual lengthy drive to the venue (40 mile round trip). 40 mile round trip, is that the centre of your choice or the nearest one available?
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 29, 2023 9:39:37 GMT
I am definitely unprepared for this winter. Regardless of my choice, I am not eligible for NHS vaccination. According to the testing kit, I got it 10 days ago. Runny nose and sore throat, now tested negative after the course. 2 out of 4 household members got it. Although every household members got jabbed at least twice, the under 18s in the household don’t seem to have any symptoms nor tested positive. According to UKHSA weekly surveillance 23rd Nov, covid-19 activity decreased in week 46. It seems I am just one of the unlucky ones getting it this winter. I'm fortunate to say that I have continued to dodge it. Or if I haven't, then its been so mild I haven't known about it. T hough by now I've had 4 shots of anti-C juice, so maybe my immune system has just been standing tall screaming "Stay Back". Just gone back and checked for reasons best known to me: I've actually had 6 shots. No wonder I've kept clear.....
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Post by bernythedolt on Nov 29, 2023 12:05:10 GMT
All very efficient, apart from the usual lengthy drive to the venue (40 mile round trip). 40 mile round trip, is that the centre of your choice or the nearest one available? The only centre they offered us. There is/are closer centre(s), but in a different health board. Our appointments always arrive by text message, one-way communication with no option to reply/discuss. Except to reply N if no jab wanted. There's a distinct air of "take it or leave it" about the process. They choose the time, date and venue, and too bad if you can't make it. To be fair, we live in a little backwater, so we expect a drive for all our health services (but normally 20 miles round trip to our GP, rather than 40 for these jabs). One of the trade-offs for living out of town. Our vaccination process could do with an admin overhaul though (in our health board anyway). We were called recently for our flu jabs and had a lengthy drive for that too. Why they can't synchronise (or allow me to organise) the two jabs (flu plus covid) into one visit these days is an irritant. Also my wife's covid vax appointment was timed 3 hours after mine! Just daft. Luckily, they were sensible and did us both at the same sitting. It just needs a little more thought, but at the end of the day these irritants are "first-world problems" and I'm just grateful that we are fortunate to have these vaccines really.
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