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Post by registerme on Dec 6, 2023 11:34:57 GMT
Watching Johnson at the COVID inquiry today. He is coming across so badly it's... awful. Really painful to watch. It must be incredibly distressing for those who lost loved ones to COVID.
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Post by adrianc on Dec 6, 2023 11:59:18 GMT
Watching Johnson at the COVID inquiry today. He is coming across so badly it's... awful. Really painful to watch. It must be incredibly distressing for those who lost loved ones to COVID. This compares to expectations... how? Hearing him starting to waffle nonsensically earlier brought back just how desensitised we'd got to his utter incompetence. If the "buffoon" act is just a cynical act, as one theory goes, it's very very stale. But at least he got brexit done as promised, right?
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Post by benaj on Dec 6, 2023 12:10:09 GMT
I couldn't allow myself to watch this long movie. Anyway, what are the expected outcomes of this expensive saga? Any jail sentences on the card? The bottom line, at least instant measurable improvement of decision-making of the current government for any emergency / life critical issues. I don't think "recommendation" are enough for those who already lost loved ones.
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Post by adrianc on Dec 6, 2023 13:06:41 GMT
I couldn't allow myself to watch this long movie. Anyway, what are the expected outcomes of this expensive saga? Any jail sentences on the card? The bottom line, at least instant measurable improvement of decision-making of the current government for any emergency / life critical issues. I don't think "recommendation" are enough for those who already lost loved ones. The enquiry can't imprison anybody. But if they find laws to have been broken, then I'm sure that will be fed to the CPS (or Procurator Fiscal) for consideration of prosecution. Today's irony is that the PM who set the ToR was BJ Piffle himself.
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Post by registerme on Dec 6, 2023 14:48:48 GMT
As much as it pains me to say it he's having a better session this afternoon.
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Post by aju on Dec 6, 2023 16:53:57 GMT
Does anyone really think there will be any lessons learnt - I'm not convinced!.
The real problems tends to be that any next big issue will be different to the current one and no one will see any similarities until its too late. If The PM of the day can get away without actually answering any PM questions put to them in the house and the person in the referee chair at the time does not pick up the PM of the day and insist they actually answer the questions then the system fails.
I guess it's always going to be the case that one might get more sense out of a Punch and Judy show on the local beach than this shower of Sh*te.
C'est la vie
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Post by james100 on Dec 6, 2023 20:37:10 GMT
God he's like a badly behaved child, crying at being asked to account for his actions for the 1st time in his life. Not that I think he cares one jot...but I'm sure his ego cares a great deal about being shown up in public. Shame he couldn't ask his dad to stand in for him really.
In any case, he was unsuitable for public office for a very long time before covid. Possibly a more impactful enquiry could have been focused on how so many people ever considered a serial self-confessed liar with a documented empathy bypass for unnecessary death (Hillsborough) an appropriate candidate for PM.
Must be a painful watch for those who lost relatives to this. I expect he will return to high-level politics at some stage too...very depressing.
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Post by michaelc on Dec 6, 2023 20:55:09 GMT
God he's like a badly behaved child, crying at being asked to account for his actions for the 1st time in his life. Not that I think he cares one jot...but I'm sure his ego cares a great deal about being shown up in public. Shame he couldn't ask his dad to stand in for him really. In any case, he was unsuitable for public office for a very long time before covid. Possibly a more impactful enquiry could have been focused on how so many people ever considered a serial self-confessed liar with a documented empathy bypass for unnecessary death (Hillsborough) an appropriate candidate for PM. Must be a painful watch for those who lost relatives to this. I expect he will return to high-level politics at some stage too...very depressing. So all in all quite a decent chap then ?
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Post by benaj on Dec 7, 2023 11:01:28 GMT
Visiting a vaccination centre in London with 2 persons. On arrival, only 2 people in front of the vaccination queue and plenty of empty chairs.
Apparently 10 minutes waiting time. Questions took a out 8 minutes. No recommend waiting time after vaccination but they waited 15 minutes anyway.
Jabs done.
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Post by michaelc on Jan 30, 2024 23:32:08 GMT
So, if I didn't have any boxes left of the Covid test I'd probably assume what I've got is a cold. Alas no, the Test line on my floflex test pinged red before the liquid even made it to the control line a few mm further up. i.e. within a second or two and then the line went on to be a very strong red line. My guess is that means I've got shed loads of virus in me....
Had this been a year or two ago I'd have known what to do and how much to worry. Now I've no idea. I have had it once before about 18 months ago and I did have 3 rounds of vaccines but the last time was a good while ago. So should I worry? Should I go out? Are there any good resources out there ? My Google searches seem to bring up articles that either overtly encourage vaccine take up or overtly discourage it. Would rather see something about what my chances are for my age group and history and whether hospitals in England are better equipped or not at treating it ? Do they have better drugs etc for example than they did 2 years ago. And how does prognosis compare to Flu these days?
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Post by Greenwood2 on Jan 31, 2024 8:11:43 GMT
So, if I didn't have any boxes left of the Covid test I'd probably assume what I've got is a cold. Alas no, the Test line on my floflex test pinged red before the liquid even made it to the control line a few mm further up. i.e. within a second or two and then the line went on to be a very strong red line. My guess is that means I've got shed loads of virus in me.... Had this been a year or two ago I'd have known what to do and how much to worry. Now I've no idea. I have had it once before about 18 months ago and I did have 3 rounds of vaccines but the last time was a good while ago. So should I worry? Should I go out? Are there any good resources out there ? My Google searches seem to bring up articles that either overtly encourage vaccine take up or overtly discourage it. Would rather see something about what my chances are for my age group and history and whether hospitals in England are better equipped or not at treating it ? Do they have better drugs etc for example than they did 2 years ago. And how does prognosis compare to Flu these days? Ring 111? If you are at high risk you may be able to get antivirals, by post? I think the recent strains are less severe, but still can be nasty.
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Post by adrianc on Jan 31, 2024 8:18:00 GMT
So, if I didn't have any boxes left of the Covid test I'd probably assume what I've got is a cold. Alas no, the Test line on my floflex test pinged red before the liquid even made it to the control line a few mm further up. i.e. within a second or two and then the line went on to be a very strong red line. My guess is that means I've got shed loads of virus in me.... Had this been a year or two ago I'd have known what to do and how much to worry. Now I've no idea. I have had it once before about 18 months ago and I did have 3 rounds of vaccines but the last time was a good while ago. So should I worry? Should I go out? Are there any good resources out there ? My Google searches seem to bring up articles that either overtly encourage vaccine take up or overtly discourage it. Would rather see something about what my chances are for my age group and history and whether hospitals in England are better equipped or not at treating it ? Do they have better drugs etc for example than they did 2 years ago. And how does prognosis compare to Flu these days? We had the same in November - bloody great big marker pen line across the test as soon as the liquid reached that point. It was actually fairly mild for us both. She's got a far worse and longer-lasting non-'vid cold at the mo. Apply common sense.
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Post by benaj on Jan 31, 2024 9:02:26 GMT
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Post by bracknellboy on Jan 31, 2024 10:37:15 GMT
So, if I didn't have any boxes left of the Covid test I'd probably assume what I've got is a cold. Alas no, the Test line on my floflex test pinged red before the liquid even made it to the control line a few mm further up. i.e. within a second or two and then the line went on to be a very strong red line. My guess is that means I've got shed loads of virus in me.... Had this been a year or two ago I'd have known what to do and how much to worry. Now I've no idea. I have had it once before about 18 months ago and I did have 3 rounds of vaccines but the last time was a good while ago. So should I worry? Should I go out? Are there any good resources out there ? My Google searches seem to bring up articles that either overtly encourage vaccine take up or overtly discourage it. Would rather see something about what my chances are for my age group and history and whether hospitals in England are better equipped or not at treating it ? Do they have better drugs etc for example than they did 2 years ago. And how does prognosis compare to Flu these days? Re. going out etc.: the guidance is on the NHS website: www.nhs.uk/conditions/covid-19/covid-19-symptoms-and-what-to-do/In a nutshell: suggest you stay at home for 5 days and don't go to those who are particularly vulnerable for 10 days. I'm not sure the strength of the red line actually has anything to do with viral load: I think previously they had said it doesn't, but that might be just so as not to scare the horses. That said, we very recently had it and our tests started out as violent red and then eventually became very faint. So yes I personally think that a strong red line, and one that appears quickly indicates you have a reasonable load, but there is no reason to think it represents a higher load than you would normally expect i.e. don't panic you aren't a super carrier.
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Post by bracknellboy on Jan 31, 2024 10:57:25 GMT
We got our first bout start of January, having managed to dodge the bullet up till then. The OH was not great, quite a bit of time in bed, but it was "odd, not like flu". So I suggested she did a C test: given our having dodged it to date she was a little shocked. Someone here has suggested anti-virals: my understanding was they are only available if you have previously been notified that you would be eligible for them because of pre-existing conditions. I had half expected to receive that letter - for "reasons" - but it never arrived. I was however deemed eligible for this years winter booster in September (don't qualify on age grounds). Which given I then caught it in late Dec/early Jan I was very grateful for. The relevant current info is on the NHS website*: Treatments for COVID-19As to current prognosis: well we have been at one of the highest levels of C infection rates ever, I believe. But hospitalisations have not overwhelmed the NHS and no one is talking about massive influx of C patients. So vaccination in particular, and prior infection induced immunity, and changes in the virus, are clearly combining to make it a very much more livable with and through infection. Unfortunately as I was coming through the other end, I got a relatively serious condition and was hospitalised for 5 days in mid/late Jan. And am in recovery for a while. Whether Covid was ultimately a contributing factor or not we won't know: given the affected part of the body it is not impossible. However, the fact that I had had Covid meant for a week or so I palmed off the - otherwise concerning - symptoms as being Covid related. Don't do what I did. * You're eligible for a COVID-19 treatment assessment, without being admitted to hospital, if all the following apply:
you're at highest risk of getting seriously ill from COVID-19
you're aged 12 or over
you have symptoms of COVID-19
you have tested positive for COVID-19
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