Vero
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Post by Vero on Feb 3, 2015 13:43:55 GMT
Well, after several months, it looks like the GEIA is now allowing sales...
Presumably there was a bug after all?
GEIA update:
£0.01 still awaiting withdrawal at 3 February 2015 - £58.72 sold at 10:41 on 3 February 2015 Previous positions: £58.73 still awaiting withdrawal at 9 January 2015 - nothing sold in a month £58.73 still awaiting withdrawal at 9 December 2014 - nothing sold in 4 days £58.79 still awaiting withdrawal at 5 December 2014 - so £0.06 sold in 4 days £62.35 still awaiting withdrawal at 27 November 2014 - so £3.56 sold in 8 days
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Post by Steerpike on Feb 3, 2015 13:50:30 GMT
Well, after several months, it looks like the GEIA is now allowing sales...
Presumably there was a bug after all?
GEIA update:
£0.01 still awaiting withdrawal at 3 February 2015 - £58.72 sold at 10:41 on 3 February 2015 Previous positions: £58.73 still awaiting withdrawal at 9 January 2015 - nothing sold in a month £58.73 still awaiting withdrawal at 9 December 2014 - nothing sold in 4 days £58.79 still awaiting withdrawal at 5 December 2014 - so £0.06 sold in 4 days £62.35 still awaiting withdrawal at 27 November 2014 - so £3.56 sold in 8 days
Similar story here, to see how it worked, I invested £100 round about launch and almost immediately put it up for sale and it is only in the last day or so that anything much has been sold.
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Post by niceguy37 on Feb 3, 2015 14:01:44 GMT
Its good to have chris back! We're missed your steady reduction of outstanding issues.
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sl75
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Post by sl75 on Feb 3, 2015 15:14:29 GMT
As others, my GEIA sprung into action around 10:41 today. Based on an analysis of my statement, my remaining GEIA holdings (at time of *starting* to write this post) were: (83) : £15.84 [sold while writing next paragraph] (93) : £20 (125) : £20 [sold while writing next paragraph] (127) : -£0.000901765 For 83,93,125, this looks like some kind of cross-contamination from my MLIA targets (which were £20 at time of writing the above), as the original 10:41+ batch sold the existing holding down to my MLIA target (except for 83 which was already below target), and when I tweaked my MLIA target for 83 and 125, it then triggered a sale of my remaining GEIA holdings of those loans (as well as the £1 I'd "asked" it to sell from the MLIA). 93 may take a little while to correct, but it looks like it will be "under control" soon. 127 seems the most curious though. In the 10:42 batch, I sold an amount of this loan that slightly exceeded my GEIA's holding of that loan. I "originally" (during mid-November) had 7 purchases totalling £15.91 in my GEIA, followed by a principal repayment of £1.340901765. There were also a few interest payments (irrelevant for calculating current holdings), and a subsequent purhcase of £0.13 in January. This would seem to leave £14.699098235 of current holdings of loan 127. However, today, it made 4 sales totalling £14.70 It would seem that either: - one or more of the statement entries has a "display error", appearing as a rounded value when it is in fact a more precise value behind the scenes. - my GEIA has sold short some of loan 127 leaving itself with a negative holding. Perhaps chris could clarify which of those two interpretations for loan #127 is correct?
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Post by stuartassetzcapital on Feb 3, 2015 15:24:32 GMT
Thanks Chris. Strangely, now that sales are quicker and easier we have also surged forward in investments to nearly £1m now. Perhaps liquidity gives confidence and we shouldn't be surprised. This better liquidity for sellers is intended to apply across all Investment Accounts and should function well in normal market conditions.
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Post by sl75 on Feb 3, 2015 17:26:53 GMT
Thanks Chris. Strangely, now that sales are quicker and easier we have also surged forward in investments to nearly £1m now. Perhaps liquidity gives confidence and we shouldn't be surprised. This better liquidity for sellers is intended to apply across all Investment Accounts and should function well in normal market conditions. ... or indeed, perhaps some of the newer GEIA investors were finally able to utilise the "awaiting investment" balance, so saw fit to make an additional top-up? A similar effect may result each time a new loan is released for investment in the GEIA... which should be bought up by new GEIA investors (who have spare funds in their accounts), and should also cause existing GEIA investors to have their GEIA per-loan target reduced resulting in sales of some of their existing loan units in order to purchase units of the new loan for better diversification (thereby also providing some amount of the "old" GEIA loans to "new" investors too).
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Post by bob2014 on Feb 3, 2015 17:52:03 GMT
My excess investment (£22) in Falmouth on my MLIA has now been sold, it was obtained during an incident with repayments in November(?). My £102 GEIA experimental investment made in December has now been half repaid, hope to see the other half sold soon. Thank you Chris for cleaning these details.
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Post by jjc on Feb 3, 2015 19:14:46 GMT
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dave
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Post by dave on Feb 3, 2015 19:18:29 GMT
MLIA/GEIA both started selling WT's this morning - thanks chris GEIA summary of before/after Dates of CSV entries were from 2014-01-07 to 2015-01-30. Loan name Discount Interest Loan #106 - 1.16 -92.73 #112 - 1.50 -131.95 #121 - 0.29 -33.62 #125 - 1.25 -125.52 #127 - 0.98 -59.35 #77 - 0.18 -20.74 #83 - 0.25 -24.31 #90 - 0.93 -88.54 #93 - 1.42 -105.80
Dates of CSV entries were from 2014-01-07 to 2015-02-03. Loan name Discount Interest Loan #106 - 1.16 - #112 - 1.50 -131.95 #121 - 0.29 - #125 - 1.25 - #127 - 0.98 -30.00 #77 - 0.30 - #83 - 0.25 - #90 - 0.93 - #93 - 1.42 -
just #112 and #127 left - I have a 500 quid of #112 in MLIA not for sale, is this stopping the GLIA sale? best regards DAve
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Post by bigfoot12 on Feb 3, 2015 19:39:33 GMT
just #112 and #127 left - I have a 500 quid of #112 in MLIA not for sale, is this stopping the GLIA sale? best regards DAve There is £400k of 112 on the AM so most likely it is that rather than a glitch.
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Post by am on Feb 3, 2015 20:42:50 GMT
Thanks Chris. Strangely, now that sales are quicker and easier we have also surged forward in investments to nearly £1m now. Perhaps liquidity gives confidence and we shouldn't be surprised. This better liquidity for sellers is intended to apply across all Investment Accounts and should function well in normal market conditions. The apparent illiquidity of the GEIA account had put me off. If it remains liquid it can act as a temporary home for my cash while looking for other loans to invest in.
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Post by oldgrumpy on Feb 3, 2015 20:50:18 GMT
"If it remains liquid it can act as a temporary home for my cash while looking for other loans to invest in."
I will be very interested to read how this strategy pans out. If I put £5000 into Green, I would not be expecting to get £5000 out in an hour so I could invest in 'OnestDave.com Expansion Loan at 18%. I might, however, want to get at a couple of grand of my Green money within a day or so for other new loans. I await reports.
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Post by pepperpot on Feb 3, 2015 21:25:00 GMT
I can't see GEIA being any more liquid than MLIA. Buying and selling all happen interchangeably on one market place so they should be as liquid as each other, now it's been de-bunged... Dunno, just guessing.
And don't forget if you already have the underlying investments in MLIA, your effectively over exposing yourself. (A risque risky strategy)
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Post by baz657 on Feb 3, 2015 22:32:53 GMT
My GEIA had a rush of activity for a couple of minutes starting at 10:40am and sold less than 25% of my holding, around £40 worth. No more action since 10:42am.
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Post by oldgrumpy on Feb 3, 2015 22:51:34 GMT
"If it remains liquid it can act as a temporary home for my cash while looking for other loans to invest in." I will be very interested to read how this strategy pans out. If I put £5000 into Green, I would not be expecting to get £5000 out in an hour so I could invest in 'OnestDave.com Expansion Loan at 18%. I might, however, want to get at a couple of grand of my Green money within a day or so for other new loans. I await reports. So then I realised what a daft idea. Put the £5000 in MLIA, thence into the green at 9.75% ish then sell those off when necessary. Why invest in the 7% if the saleability from MLIA is the same as Green Thingy IA? We'll find out soon if it is the same liquidity I expect.
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