dead-money
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Post by dead-money on Apr 28, 2020 19:50:29 GMT
Disagree
do something (buy) - do something (sell) - don't do something
makes sense to me
Regardless of order, are the Total Buy and Total Sell amounts displayed anywhere (like they used to be)? Tagging Deees chris, Are there any release notes for the Beta site? version tracking and change list? Any list of reported issues, missing features and functionality, broken features? Any way to know when issues have been addressed? New features and functionality added ?
Currently it's a public Beta test with somewhat unidirectional feedback.
PS +1 on where are total buys and total sells on the MLA loan book page? Also took ages to realise '?' was a tooltip for 'awaiting investment'
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shimself
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Post by shimself on Apr 28, 2020 22:04:13 GMT
Disagree
do something (buy) - do something (sell) - don't do something
makes sense to me
[tagging chris ] It’s totally illogical from a numeracy and accounting perspective and a practical perspective. Plus it’s currently contrary to how the legacy site has has worked for years. A buy is a positive amount, a sell is a negative amount and not instructed is a zero amount. Logically positive > zero > negative. Plus if you sort one way the biggest sells rise to the top with buys in the middle and not instructed at the bottom. If you reverse the sort order you get not-instructed at top, buys in the middle again and sells at the bottom. TOTALLY IMPRACTICAL to sandwich buys in the middle no matter which way you toggle. The opposite of sell is buy IT ISN’T not-instructed. Too much mathematical purity, not enough user friendliness. I have about 10 loans with buys or sells, and 478 loans with neither. I don't believe anybody has more instructed orders than neutral ones. If you are going to sort by instruction, you are definitely wanting to look at those orders with instructions, and not at neutral ones. No accounting perspective applies to this sort
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Post by Ace on Apr 28, 2020 22:06:26 GMT
Disagree
do something (buy) - do something (sell) - don't do something
makes sense to me
[tagging chris ] It’s totally illogical from a numeracy and accounting perspective and a practical perspective. Plus it’s currently contrary to how the legacy site has has worked for years. A buy is a positive amount, a sell is a negative amount and not instructed is a zero amount. Logically positive > zero > negative. Plus if you sort one way the biggest sells rise to the top with buys in the middle and not instructed at the bottom. If you reverse the sort order you get not-instructed at top, buys in the middle again and sells at the bottom. TOTALLY IMPRACTICAL to sandwich buys in the middle no matter which way you toggle. The opposite of sell is buy IT ISN’T not-instructed. BUT in P2P and increasingly on AC logic and business and common sense are in short supply. Someone would think AC are on a mission to alienate as many lenders as possible and make it hard to buy loan parts when the business is desperate for liquidity. [ cb25 asked “ Regardless of order, are the Total Buy and Total Sell amounts displayed anywhere? NO, or if they are they’re hidden somewhere that is inconsistent with my logic and I haven’t found them.] I agree with your logic, but sorting Your Instructions doesn't work for me at all. It produces a random list of buys, sells and no instructions all interwoven. Also, filtering on just buys or just sells produces an empty list. Filtering on No Instruction produces a full list with a mixture of buys, sells and No Instructions. It really is close to unusable for me. Tagging chris
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dead-money
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Post by dead-money on Apr 29, 2020 8:41:16 GMT
"I don't believe anybody has more instructed orders than neutral ones." You'd be surprised...
In the current market, all my MLA parts are always either up for sell or looking to buy.
Yesterday was able to buy several loans at 2%+ discount and now selling them at par.
I'm happy to hold to redemption, but also more than happy to flip.
If I could transfer another few £10Ks from AAs I'd be hoovering up a lot more discounted loan parts.
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cb25
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Post by cb25 on Apr 29, 2020 13:30:46 GMT
chris Few irritations with the new website 1) I put in a discounted sell order on a loan, get sent a 2FA code (OK), toggle the "trust device" button to get less in future. Yet when I put in a second discounted sell order (different loan obviously), still get sent a 2FA code. Very irritating when putting in more than a couple of discounted sell orders. 2) When clicking on a loan within a sorted list, good news when exiting that loan - the sorted order is preserved, but it flicks you back to the top of the list.
3) It would help with listed loans if the page skip list (1,2,3,..N) was at the top of the list as well as at the bottom
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shimself
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Post by shimself on Apr 29, 2020 13:41:31 GMT
I agree with your logic, but sorting Your Instructions doesn't work for me at all. It produces a random list of buys, sells and no instructions all interwoven. Also, filtering on just buys or just sells produces an empty list. Filtering on No Instruction produces a full list with a mixture of buys, sells and No Instructions. It really is close to unusable for me. Tagging chris I mean just clicking on the column header, Your Instructions which then sorts the list
I quite agree the figures for Total Buys and Total Sells have disappeared, which is bonkers
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Post by Ace on Apr 29, 2020 14:49:12 GMT
I agree with your logic, but sorting Your Instructions doesn't work for me at all. It produces a random list of buys, sells and no instructions all interwoven. Also, filtering on just buys or just sells produces an empty list. Filtering on No Instruction produces a full list with a mixture of buys, sells and No Instructions. It really is close to unusable for me. Tagging chris I mean just clicking on the column header, Your Instructions which then sorts the list
I quite agree the figures for Total Buys and Total Sells have disappeared, which is bonkers
Yes, I did understand your post, but as I said, it doesn't sort in any meaningful way for me. As an example, from a fresh login, viewing my Standard MLA holdings and pressing the "Your Instructions" column header twice (arrow now points up to indicate that table is storing low to high on this column. My instructions for the first few columns listed in top down order are: NO Instruction Invest £499.62 Sell £0.21 Invest £49.10 Invest £200.00 Sell £10.00 Invest £99.51 Sell £134.00 I.e. a completely random order, as far as I can tell. Tagging chrisNavigating away from this page, returning and sorting on various other columns them sorting on Your Instructions again does reproduce the same strange order as above. So it is doing something systematic, but certainly not the right thing.
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cb25
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Post by cb25 on Apr 29, 2020 15:03:30 GMT
Ace is it the order you placed the buy/sell orders?
I was viewing a loan today. There were units available at various discounts, but they weren't listed in order of discount, seemed a random order, all I could think of was that is was the order people had put in the sell orders.
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Post by shimself on Apr 29, 2020 15:04:52 GMT
Ace is it the order you placed the buy/sell orders?
I was viewing a loan today. There were units available at various discounts, but they weren't listed in order of discount, seemed a random order, all I could think of was that is was the order people had put in the sell orders.
No, mine is in sensible order
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Post by Ace on Apr 29, 2020 15:13:49 GMT
Ace is it the order you placed the buy/sell orders?
I was viewing a loan today. There were units available at various discounts, but they weren't listed in order of discount, seemed a random order, all I could think of was that is was the order people had put in the sell orders.
No, it's not correlated with the order dates.
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Post by cb25 on Apr 29, 2020 15:18:24 GMT
1) Questions in the Q&A section of a loan no longer show the display name of the lender who raised the question. Is that deliberate? (Means it is no longer possible to look back and see the questions I've raised over time in a loan)
2)Page skip display a little odd when you have 5 pages of loans, shows as: 1 2 3 4 ... 5 (in 6 boxes). Suggests the code tests "If the number of pages (N) is greater than 4, display 1 2 3 4 ... N". Imo would be better as "If the number of pages (N) is greater than 5, display 1 2 3 4 ... N" because then 5 pages would give 1 2 3 4 5 (with no ...)
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Post by honda2ner on Apr 29, 2020 17:10:16 GMT
Apologies if already mentioned...
Switched both standard and IFISA MLA accounts to withdraw all to cash for a couple of days then switched IFISA back to reinvest all.
The IFISA is still withdrawing to the cash account 48 hours after setting it to reinvest all. Having to manually move money back into the IFISA.
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Post by rscal on Apr 30, 2020 7:53:04 GMT
Risk Category when sorted goes: Default, High, Low, Medium, Medium High, Medium Low
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Post by lara on Apr 30, 2020 9:56:48 GMT
I have lived with this new site for a while now and just for the record, I don’t like it.
The old format seemed perfectly good to me. The layout was better and the colour scheme was not distracting. The new livery is vile.
It is what it is and I’m not going to loose any sleep over it but from my perspective, it’s not an improvement.
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Post by cb25 on Apr 30, 2020 11:29:20 GMT
When hovering over the 'units available' for loan #682 in the Liveloans display (50 per page), it gives a list starting with 'Par' then showing increasing discounts -0.5%, -1.0%, -1.5% ... -7.0%. OK
However, when viewing ‘available units’ from within the loan, I get this display:
Amount Discount
£91067.74 0.00%
£498.38 -1.50%
£561.27 -7.00%
£6390.61 -6.00%
£378.78 -1.00%
£103.09 -3.00%
£103.62 -3.50%
£176.15 -0.50%
£294.91 -5.00%
£23.23 -4.00%
£329.80 -2.50%
Are they being listed in the order that discount was first offered? Imo would be much better in order of discount.
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